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[Cyberpunkd]

feel like teaming up?

gotta warn that my only season char is a very pimped out sorc however, so up to you - we can chat and answer questions

Sorry but I have kids, so my gaming time is impossible to schedule

1. If I understand well for each Nightmare dungeon cleared I immediately get one one tier higher - I still have some Tier 1,2, etc., I’m now Tier 23 - should I throw away the old ones?
2. Are all the items that drop used to summon mobs to be transmuted into malignant hearts and then used for summoning? Or are there other places I can use to summon different mobs? Do they have different loot tables?

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Sorry but I have kids, so my gaming time is impossible to schedule

1. If I understand well for each Nightmare dungeon cleared I immediately get one one tier higher - I still have some Tier 1,2, etc., I’m now Tier 23 - should I throw away the old ones?
2. Are all the items that drop used to summon mobs to be transmuted into malignant hearts and then used for summoning? Or are there other places I can use to summon different mobs? Do they have different loot tables?

´those lower levels NMDs are obsolete.
You can only transmute to hearts some items do a historicfal reason: they should fix it. As for the rest of summon materials or keys, each is used for a specfific boss and eacfh boss has a specific loot table of uniques so you cfan target farm the uniques you need for your build.

It's not so much scheduling gametime, but rather once someone is on your list you can see if they're on and so if you happen to be online and i happen to be online, then happy accident that leads to a team up.

 

[Rentahamster]

Started changing gear and my AP went down from 23k to 16k already, so I am trusting you guys it really doesn't mean much...

It does and it doesn't. It's only really useful to get an idea of by how much your main stat and your +damage and Xdamage affect you. Other than that, attack power isn't very helpful because it doesn't take into account stats like crit chance, attack speed, crit damage, overpower damage, damage over time, and all the other "damage while X" conditionals. If you scale your damage based on conditionals, then the AP number on the status screen is misleading.

 

[Rentahamster]

1. If I understand well for each Nightmare dungeon cleared I immediately get one one tier higher - I still have some Tier 1,2, etc., I’m now Tier 23 - should I throw away the old ones?

It's best to do the highest level NMD that you can clear in under 5 minutes. If you find them too easy, go to the Occultist to craft a sigil that's a higher level.

2. Are all the items that drop used to summon mobs to be transmuted into malignant hearts and then used for summoning? Or are there other places I can use to summon different mobs? Do they have different loot tables?

No, only the femurs and the heads and the hands can be transmuted into hearts, because that is a holdover garbage collection system they janked together. The rest of the items summons their own boss.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It's best to do the highest level NMD that you can clear in under 5 minutes. If you find them too easy, go to the Occultist to craft a sigil that's a higher level.

Ok, but after each dungeon clear I get a digit there is one tier higher. How can I continuously farm sigils from a specific tier?

 

[Deanington]

Ok, but after each dungeon clear I get a digit there is one tier higher. How can I continuously farm sigils from a specific tier?

I dont think you can? You could craft sigils from the occultists in the major towns though.

Edit: crafting will give you a range as well. So just farm in the range that is good for you until you level and gear up for the next tier range? Ah shit I keep editing. I didnt notice your reply was from a suggestion of crafting sigils too.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

It does and it doesn't. It's only really useful to get an idea of by how much your main stat and your +damage and Xdamage affect you. Other than that, attack power isn't very helpful because it doesn't take into account stats like crit chance, attack speed, crit damage, overpower damage, damage over time, and all the other "damage while X" conditionals. If you scale your damage based on conditionals, then the AP number on the status screen is misleading.

I am running Barrage Rogue that stacks critical strike damage, so I guess the AP value is misleading.

 

[Deanington]

So I just got back into Diablo 4/season 5 as well. I quit at the start of season one. What really helped me was teaming up with somebody ( pref lvl100 geared out ) and just get ran through everything. When remembering to do so I would also have elixirs/incense for the xp boosts. Along the way to getting leveled I picked a build that I thought I would enjoy/similar to when I first played. I picked Flurry Rogue. I also made sure to know which glyphs I needed so those could get leveled along the way as well. I some what did not give a shit about gear until item level 925 and trashed everything for the aspects and mats. Now that I can farm pretty much everything, I am currently working on leveling my glyphs. Which is only a run or two away from level 21. Also, I have to unlock a few of the rewards from the map/menu ui to get the rest of my glyph points, which I am not looking forward to. Even with my glyphs not maxed or my gear not being entirely where I want it I can pretty much solo everything, so makes the end game kind of meh. Pointless too really with the season ending soonish. So my main goal for the game at this point is to probably level all classes to 100 for the challenge unlock.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I have to say Reknown grind is straight A bullshit, you cannot even skip it with the Altars if Lilith since they give quite a lot of bonuses.

 

[Rentahamster]

I have to say Reknown grind is straight A bullshit, you cannot even skip it with the Altars if Lilith since they give quite a lot of bonuses.

Yup. Not sure why they thought that was a good idea.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Also, is it just me or tempering allows you to select the affix to reroll i.e. if you have two of them you can pick which one to reroll, the other one doesn't change?

 

[Xcell Miguel]

Also, is it just me or tempering allows you to select the affix to reroll i.e. if you have two of them you can pick which one to reroll, the other one doesn't change?

Yes it only rerolls the selected one.
On Ancestral items you can have two tempers, once you selected a category of temper on one of them you can reroll it in the same category only, and it does not affect the other temper.
First temper is free for each of the two tempers, but the rerolls are shared.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I'm online rn if anyone wanna hangout

 

[Rentahamster]

I'm online rn if anyone wanna hangout

I wasn't online, but I'll see you next time

I'm mostly screwing around in the PTR though.

 

[DavidGzz]

 

[Rentahamster]

The PTR is over now, and while I had some issues with it, I did play it longer than the Season 4, or Season 5 PTR, which is a good sign, I guess?

Having access to the boosts was good because it finally let me experiment with theoretical builds that would have taken forever to farm on live. 100% dodge chance Rogue was stupid and fun.

 

[Rentahamster]

One of the fundamental problems I still see with the game design in D4, that is carried over from D3, is the how disproportional the relative benefits of additive bonuses are versus multiplicative bonuses over the course of a character's journey, how this very significant factor is very unclear to most casual players, and how it ultimately trivializes certain aspects of the gameplay and funnels character progression into a limited amount of cookie cutter builds. Utility aspects are completely sidelined because it makes no sense to have your skills do something cool and different when this other multiplicative ability flat out multiplies your DPS by 20%. You'd be stupid not to take the damage all the time, every time, and casuals who don't think about these mathematical implications are stuck scratching their heads as to why their damage falls off hard in the endgame while Mr. Blasty McBlaster one shots Lilith.

I feel like I could straight up take my pages of forum posts over the last 10 years about D3's problems and copy paste them into D4's feedback forum.

 

[Scary_Larry]

One of the fundamental problems I still see with the game design in D4, that is carried over from D3, is the how disproportional the relative benefits of additive bonuses are versus multiplicative bonuses over the course of a character's journey, how this very significant factor is very unclear to most casual players, and how it ultimately trivializes certain aspects of the gameplay and funnels character progression into a limited amount of cookie cutter builds. Utility aspects are completely sidelined because it makes no sense to have your skills do something cool and different when this other multiplicative ability flat out multiplies your DPS by 20%. You'd be stupid not to take the damage all the time, every time, and casuals who don't think about these mathematical implications are stuck scratching their heads as to why their damage falls off hard in the endgame while Mr. Blasty McBlaster one shots Lilith.

I feel like I could straight up take my pages of forum posts over the last 10 years about D3's problems and copy paste them into D4's feedback forum.

Hear that. All of it. POE 2 comes out in November. Played it at PAX West a few weekends ago. Great times were had.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

One of the fundamental problems I still see with the game design in D4, that is carried over from D3, is the how disproportional the relative benefits of additive bonuses are versus multiplicative bonuses over the course of a character's journey, how this very significant factor is very unclear to most casual players, and how it ultimately trivializes certain aspects of the gameplay and funnels character progression into a limited amount of cookie cutter builds. Utility aspects are completely sidelined because it makes no sense to have your skills do something cool and different when this other multiplicative ability flat out multiplies your DPS by 20%. You'd be stupid not to take the damage all the time, every time, and casuals who don't think about these mathematical implications are stuck scratching their heads as to why their damage falls off hard in the endgame while Mr. Blasty McBlaster one shots Lilith.

I feel like I could straight up take my pages of forum posts over the last 10 years about D3's problems and copy paste them into D4's feedback forum.

100.

While I love D3 I do recognize that the set system forces you into class builds that live or die by the bonuses they confer. I do like many of the changes to the systems they added in later seasons that let players mix and match various buffs (more Kanai's Cube options, better rings, the whole rune/glyph system, etc).

D4 feels even more restrictive to me. I constantly find myself falling back to the Sorc or Necro classes just based on how streamlined their builds are. Its unfortunate really because I love the Druid and Rogue classes but don't have the same about of engagement/fun as I do with Sorc or Necro.

Will see how the new class and area feels...very ready for a change of scenery.

 

[Rentahamster]

They just uploaded a story recap video. I had a thought about replaying the campaign to refresh myself, but I really don't want to do those escort quests again. Why do game developers insist on doing escort quests. 99% of the time, they're trash.

 

[Antwix]

They just uploaded a story recap video. I had a thought about replaying the campaign to refresh myself, but I really don't want to do those escort quests again. Why do game developers insist on doing escort quests. 99% of the time, they're trash.

I'll probably replay the campaign when the dlc drops but my god, the thought of going through act 1 for the 100th time is agonizing

 

[finalflame]

They just uploaded a story recap video. I had a thought about replaying the campaign to refresh myself, but I really don't want to do those escort quests again. Why do game developers insist on doing escort quests. 99% of the time, they're trash.

Sweet, I was in the same boat. No desire to re-do the campaign.

 

[Rentahamster]

So as not to waste the hours of work they put into the campaign set piece battles, they should add in those battles as separate one-off quests for players who opt to skip the campaign. It would make the leveling process a little more varied and a little less one-note.

 

[Rentahamster]

 

[Rentahamster]

Free trial for the next few days. Up to level 20. That takes like...15 minutes lol.

 

[MikeM]

Free trial for the next few days. Up to level 20. That takes like...15 minutes lol.

No Steam?

 

[Rentahamster]

No Steam?

Guess not

 

[omegasc]

WTF is this music?

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

WTF is this music?

Was 100% thinking the same thing. I swear it sounds like the lead singer from white stripes but...don't know...all they did was scream a lot.

 

[DavidGzz]

WTF is this music?

It's great. Blood//Water by grandson is on my gym playlist.

 

[Rentahamster]

The music itself is cool, IMO, but I don't think it matches the vibe of the trailer.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

I think its way better than the one they used in the first reveal trailer. That was from Billie Eilish I think, right? Just didnt' match the trailer at all.

 

[omegasc]

It's great. Blood//Water by grandson is on my gym playlist.

The music itself is cool, IMO, but I don't think it matches the vibe of the trailer.

This is what I meant.
I sometimes no english bery well.

 

[Joramun]

Comments from the main Diablo YT channel lol

The

 

[Optimus Lime]

That new trailer looks great. This will be my GOTY.

 

[bronkonagurski]

I'm ready for this expansion. The last two seasons have been pretty fun, imo. But I've pretty much burned through everything I wanted to achieve for Season 5.

 

[finalflame]

Comments from the main Diablo YT channel lol

The

The music is absolute fucking garbage. The trailer otherwise fucks.

 

[DavidGzz]

This is what I meant.
I sometimes no english bery well.

It was definitely missing the instruments. Sounds a lot better with the music.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

I want to see how they set up the story in the expansion pack. I hope they listened to the feedback from vanilla and toned down some of the fetch and escort quests but I'm down either way....would have been cool to get Lorath or Neyrelle as mercs.

 

[Scary_Larry]

Trying to beat the campaign so I can be ready for the expansion. I'm on Act 3: The Making of Monsters/Whispers from the Past and I can't quite finish off the Mother's Judgement boss at the end of this one. I am level 34 and I'm always down to play together and could use there help.

BattleTag: ScaryLarry#11926

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Trying to beat the campaign so I can be ready for the expansion. I'm on Act 3: The Making of Monsters/Whispers from the Past and I can't quite finish off the Mother's Judgement boss at the end of this one. I am level 34 and I'm always down to play together and could use there help.

BattleTag: ScaryLarry#11926

You running a seasonal or eternal character?

 

[Scary_Larry]

You running a seasonal or eternal character?

Eternal. Haven’t ran a seasonal character yet.

 

[amigastar]

I'm not sure i wanna buy the expansion, bought D4 at launch and only played through the campaign and left the game with lvl 54 or something.
Haven played basically since then (tried a few times but never continued)

 

[xVodevil]

What You Need to Know for Vessel of Hatred’s Launch
Well fuck, no preload for Steam..
On the other hand it's more or less a midnight launch for EU so I might stray up to start dl for the night

 

[Rentahamster]

Any of you guys planning on trying Path of Exile 2 early access in November? I think I will.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Any of you guys planning on trying Path of Exile 2 early access in November? I think I will.

100% yes

 

[Mikado]

Any of you guys planning on trying Path of Exile 2 early access in November? I think I will.

Having put a ton of time into the first, I'd definitely check it out.

At first I was sort of turned off by the controller-first design that they seemed to be pursuing for POE2 but now that I think about it, it might make it pretty good for steamdeck.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Having put a ton of time into the first, I'd definitely check it out.

At first I was sort of turned off by the controller-first design that they seemed to be pursuing for POE2 but now that I think about it, it might make it pretty good for steamdeck.

D4 is great on controller (and D3 was also great on console).

POE1 had a ton of options when it launched on PS4 and Xbox but I still prefer path on a keyboard and mouse (at least POE1...managing that many pots would be a nightmare on controller imo).

 

[Codeblew]

Will we be able to just start the new season and do only the expansion story mode? I don't want to do the base story all over again.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

Will we be able to just start the new season and do only the expansion story mode? I don't want to do the base story all over again.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d4/t/will-you-have-to-replay-the-campaign-in-order-to-play-expansion-content/178828

I doubt it....for D3 iirc they let you jump right to the content in act 5...but at the same time I cannot find EXACT confirmation from Blizzard that states this.