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Digital Foundry: Pokémon Scarlet / Pokémon Violet - Incredibly Poor Visuals + Performance
TheDude108
Member
Violet / Scarlet looks like it was originally a top-down game and then changed to 3rd person at the last minute.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Wow, this is terrible.
Shockingly bad.
Shockingly bad.
nowhat
Gold Member
...and yet, here's me with the popcorn, waiting for the Nintendefenders*) to tell us how "this is fine".
*) We've already established "green rats", and "blue squirrels" seem to be agreed upon after Ragnarök - what would be Nintendo's "spirit animal"? Red... what?
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Released in a worse state than Cyberpunk 2077 ever did.
_Ex_
Gold Member
Most popular best selling game franchise in the world, and these are the 2022 graphics you get:
And even with such paltry pixels, reviewers are reporting performance issues with Pokémon Violet/Scarlet.
Game Freak is a fat and lazy joke of a developer. Violet/Scarlet will still sell millions regardless, because nostalgia addled millennials and their indoctrinated kids don't care about quality production.
And even with such paltry pixels, reviewers are reporting performance issues with Pokémon Violet/Scarlet.
Game Freak is a fat and lazy joke of a developer. Violet/Scarlet will still sell millions regardless, because nostalgia addled millennials and their indoctrinated kids don't care about quality production.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I'm looking at it on an iPhone 13" screen and it looks pretty good to be honest. I can imagine it looking pretty decent on the Switch OLED, but on a monitor? Oof.Most popular best selling game franchise in the world, and these are the 2022 graphics you get:
And even with such paltry pixels, reviewers are reporting performance issues with Pokémon Violet/Scarlet.
Game Freak is a fat and lazy joke of a developer. Violet/Scarlet will still sell millions regardless, because nostalgia addled millennials and their indoctrinated kids don't care about quality production.
_Ex_
Gold Member
It would look good for a mobile game in 2012. As a console game in 2022 these graphics are a joke.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Red toads?
nowhat
Gold Member
Not quite an animal, but I'll accept it.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Shut0wen
Banned
After xenoblade 3 which has afew performance issues but isnt game breaking, this game was rushed and performance issues lie on gamefreak or Nintendo for pushing them to release a game which wouldnt meet the standard, sad since the last game was going in the right direction and this no difference between violet and sword
nowhat
Gold Member
Ah, stupid me. But since we're using simple animal names - red frogs?This is a red toad
Same ol G
Member
Lobster
meanwhile on the same hardware 5 years earlier at both better frame rate and resolution,Most popular best selling game franchise in the world, and these are the 2022 graphics you get:
And even with such paltry pixels, reviewers are reporting performance issues with Pokémon Violet/Scarlet.
Game Freak is a fat and lazy joke of a developer. Violet/Scarlet will still sell millions regardless, because nostalgia addled millennials and their indoctrinated kids don't care about quality production.
but ultimately pokemon sells millions if the average user doesn't care neither will nintendo
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Yeah now I'm seeing it on my desktop screen and it looks like shit lmao.
Tralosdean
Neo Member
That looks really rough
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Why put in the effort when people still buy it in droves?
Comandr
Member
Christ that was brutal.
I really enjoyed the game. Putting the awful performance and presentation aside, the game itself is a lot of fun. But like John said, pokemon fans deserve better.
What I’m really afraid of is that the game gets a patch or two to resolve some of the more glaring gamebreaking issues and then they just release entirely new ultra violent and scarlet next year as switch 2 launch titles and everyone lauds them as such great games and wow the graphics are so good and blah blah blah.
I’m afraid that these versions might look like butt because they just had to crank something out as a placeholder for better versions.
I really enjoyed the game. Putting the awful performance and presentation aside, the game itself is a lot of fun. But like John said, pokemon fans deserve better.
What I’m really afraid of is that the game gets a patch or two to resolve some of the more glaring gamebreaking issues and then they just release entirely new ultra violent and scarlet next year as switch 2 launch titles and everyone lauds them as such great games and wow the graphics are so good and blah blah blah.
I’m afraid that these versions might look like butt because they just had to crank something out as a placeholder for better versions.
spons
Member
The thing crashed on me today, besides all the performance issues. I can't believe they fucked such a fun game up this bad from a technical perspective.
Lack of any statement and conflicting reports on refunds is annoying as well. Just announce that they're working on it. That's literally the least they can do at this point.
I don't mind the graphics as it is though. It looks good enough to me, just fix the bugs and performance.
Lack of any statement and conflicting reports on refunds is annoying as well. Just announce that they're working on it. That's literally the least they can do at this point.
I don't mind the graphics as it is though. It looks good enough to me, just fix the bugs and performance.
Physiognomonics
Member
So basically the story of all Pokemon games released since GameBoy.
93xfan
Banned
What you fail to understand is that it adds to the atmosphere. I don’t want good visuals in my bad game.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Do they even need to make an effort? These games will sell regardless, and the publishers know it.
Umbasaborne
Banned
Nintendo and tpc should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Too often they get a pass for this shit, but im glad people are speaking up. The state of this game is unacceptable
chromhound
Member
Look like a game made for the WII
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Fbh
Member
The 2D ones were pretty competently made, and compared favorably to other games on the system. They also got a bit more of a pass because they were lower budget games for super weak handheld hardware and priced accordingly (If I remember correctly they were like $35 during the NDS era).
But gamefreak has completely dropped the ball in regards to bringing the franchise up the standards of a proper $60 console release
Fess
Member
I think it’s spot on. We’re seeing a Cyberpunk last gen version here without a next gen version.The most *generous* excuse I can imagine is that it was originally made for new hardware that's failed to materialize, so they dumped it on the Switch and put it on the choppingblock to make it work. Not much of a theory, but it's best I got.
Bonfires Down
Member
The obvious explanation is that despite being only 170 people strong, they decided to release two major games this year, with their previous major game being only three years ago. Not shocking that there is a lack of polish when they also have to hit the holiday period.The most *generous* excuse I can imagine is that it was originally made for new hardware that's failed to materialize, so they dumped it on the Switch and put it on the choppingblock to make it work. Not much of a theory, but it's best I got.
Why do they work like that? I don’t know, but clearly someone in charge is a cheap ass bastard, or they simply don’t give a fuck about anything.
spons
Member
The 3DS games ran like ass and they never patched the performance in those.
So yeah.
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Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Was basing it off of captain toad to be fair.
But we need another rodent to go with rats and squirrels.
Red hamsters?
Red lemmings?
Red voles?
nowhat
Gold Member
Yeah that was my first reaction (that you were referencing Captain Toad, and by extension toadstool mushrooms) as well. In my defense, English is not my first language.
I'm quite liking "red lemmings", especially considering their behaviour in video games.
("fun" fact - lemmings in real life don't actually plunge to their death mindlessly, the thing was staged by Disney "documentarists")
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Power Pro
Gold Member
As someone who usually likes to call Digital Foundry "the nitpick channel", I can't disagree with what they're saying about this right now. It's mindboggling how it's worse than even their own game that released this year. The Pokémon Company really should have made Legends Arceus their holiday 2022, while Scarlet/Violet could have been holiday 2023. It needed more time in the oven, and maybe it would have at least ran better.
The DF doesn't even touch on how things really tank when you're moving across water. I was trying to grind one of my grass Pokémon, and the best way to do that would be to fight some water Pokémon, and while traveling over water, the performance was getting really unbearable. I'm usually very forgiving about such things, but it was hurting my enjoyment of the game.
The DF doesn't even touch on how things really tank when you're moving across water. I was trying to grind one of my grass Pokémon, and the best way to do that would be to fight some water Pokémon, and while traveling over water, the performance was getting really unbearable. I'm usually very forgiving about such things, but it was hurting my enjoyment of the game.
Camreezie
Member
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