DisneyPixar Up - May 29, 2009
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ZephyrFate
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This reminds me, does GAF have an official Animation of 2009 thread? I mean, specifically animated films and we talk about them. The only ones I know of coming out this year are this and 9. Any others??
ZephyrFate
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Oh and Coraline, which looks awesome too.
ZephyrFate said:
9
Astro Boy
A Christmas Carol
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
Coraline
The Fantastic Mr. Fox
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs
Monsters vs Aliens
Planet 51
Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea
The Princess and the Frog
Toy Story 3D
Up
Plus a few independents and anime I'm sure.
This is going to be Pixar's hardest to market film yet, I can imagine, even more so than Ratatoulle. I don't think any kids are going to want to buy toys of an old git.
Not that I'm complaining, I'm glad Pixar is taking their position as an opportunity to create daring and unique movies (at least compared to just about everything else being put out by the big CGI studios), like they did with Wall-E in particular.
I've said it every time a Pixar film has been on it's way, but I want to see as little of this movie as possible so it'll be all surprises when I see it. I wanted to do this with Wall-E but I ended up digging up every scrap of new footage online I could find from TV previews and the like. :lol
Still, quite a few animated films this year Im interested in like Coraline, Astro Boy, The Princess and the Frog and Ponyo.
Not that I'm complaining, I'm glad Pixar is taking their position as an opportunity to create daring and unique movies (at least compared to just about everything else being put out by the big CGI studios), like they did with Wall-E in particular.
I've said it every time a Pixar film has been on it's way, but I want to see as little of this movie as possible so it'll be all surprises when I see it. I wanted to do this with Wall-E but I ended up digging up every scrap of new footage online I could find from TV previews and the like. :lol
Still, quite a few animated films this year Im interested in like Coraline, Astro Boy, The Princess and the Frog and Ponyo.
DeathbyVolcano
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Pixar is much like how Disney was back in the late 40s and the entire 50s. Every new release by them was groundbreaking, innovative, and exciting. I'm thankful Pixar has the balls to take chances and execute them, instead of sticking to easy material full of pop culture references and a focused audience (Dreamworks, I'm looking at you). Pixar appeals to everyone, much like how Disney used to be.
They're the most talented film company out there. I still believe Wall-E deserves a Best Picture Nomination AND the win. It'll probably rank as my first or second favorite animated film of all time.
edit: Although Cars sucked.
They're the most talented film company out there. I still believe Wall-E deserves a Best Picture Nomination AND the win. It'll probably rank as my first or second favorite animated film of all time.
edit: Although Cars sucked.
Instigator
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BrandNew said:
Finally saw Cars two days ago.
I still don't get the GAF hate for that movie.
Instigator said:
Neither do I, I enjoyed it more then either the original toy story or bugs life to be honest. I think people hate it because it's the most commercial of all of pixar's films and because it's more popular with kids because of that. At it's worst it's still a 4 star film in a field filled with 4 and 5 star movies.
I'm interested in UP, even when a pixar movie looks iffy I usually still end up enjoying it so I"ll be there may 29th. After kung fu panda I may even check out monsters vs aliens too.
DeathbyVolcano
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I didn't like the cast, I find the idea of automobiles acting as protagonists a little too much of a stress even for an animated movie, and I just don't like NASCAR or cars in general. Also, I thought it was boring without a very touching message, unlike most other Pixar movies.
Tell that to fucking Dreamworks, not Pixar.
Tell that to fucking Dreamworks, not Pixar.
Insane Metal
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It looks cool.
But my standards are so high now that I've seen Wall-E...
But my standards are so high now that I've seen Wall-E...
2 Minutes Turkish
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BrandNew said:
Agree with 95% of your post. Except the Cars part. Cars is great.
Up looks like another notch on their flawless record. Bought Wall E last night on Blu-ray, holy fuck it looks amazing.
Great movie.
polyh3dron
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Pixar in 3D?
DAY FUCKING 1 at the EL CAPITAN bitches
Oh and Cars isn't a shitty movie, just relatively shitty compared to all the other Pixar movies.
DAY FUCKING 1 at the EL CAPITAN bitches
Oh and Cars isn't a shitty movie, just relatively shitty compared to all the other Pixar movies.
polyh3dron
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If this was a Sony Pictures Animation or Blue Sky production, I'd agree. But this is fucking Pixar, so STFU.Zaro said:
It's always these people who complain that some genuinely original movie like this is nothing new and doesn't look good and then they go to see Max Payne and Paul Blart: Mall Cop.
Buckethead
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Hope this is okay to post.
New footage (however still using temp audio tracks) from Sony's Keynote @ CES, notice Lou Romano playing Russell and I don't recognize the voice playing Carl.
New footage:
http://vimeo.com/2897615
Pictures:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/live-from-howard-stringers-ces-keynote/
New footage (however still using temp audio tracks) from Sony's Keynote @ CES, notice Lou Romano playing Russell and I don't recognize the voice playing Carl.
New footage:
http://vimeo.com/2897615
Pictures:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/08/live-from-howard-stringers-ces-keynote/
I am finding myself more and more excited with this movie each day I wait. I love Pixar's animation, voice acting talents and musical score. I will always care more about those aspects more than the plot. At least until I go for second and third views. Somehow Pixar combines my love for wonderful visuals and directing, amazing voice casts and musical scores and always does a great job.
9 looks equally good in those departments, too. Good year for animation.
Edit: Admittedly not as thrilled with "Up is an upcoming computer-animated 3-D film being produced by Pixar Animation Studios. It will be distributed by Walt Disney Pictures, and is scheduled for release on May 29, 2009 in North America and October 16, 2009 in the United Kingdom."
9 looks equally good in those departments, too. Good year for animation.
Edit: Admittedly not as thrilled with "Up is an upcoming computer-animated 3-D film being produced by Pixar Animation Studios. It will be distributed by Walt Disney Pictures, and is scheduled for release on May 29, 2009 in North America and October 16, 2009 in the United Kingdom."
WordAssassin
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This is the footage that was shown at ComiCon in July of 2008. Same placeholder voices, too. They must just have a DVD of specific scenes to show off that they carry around with them to press functions.Buckethead said:
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Buckethead
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Drozmight said:
There was a live action movie that followed the story of a young asian boy and an old man as they traveled to the Amazon to go on a fantastic adventure in the old man's house that flew thanks to thousands of balloons?
If so, where? :lol
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Gotcha, must have missed out on the than then. Oh well.
WordAssassin
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Don't feel bad, I don't think it ever leaked onto the web. I was just guessing as to why the real voices aren't there yet.Buckethead said:
Cosmic Bus
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Dan said:
I have nice memories of the book as a kid, but I made the mistake of wanting to see what the movie would be like. There isn't a facepalm big enough.
adamsappel
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But, in animation, don't they do the voices first?WordAssassin said:
DeathbyVolcano
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adamsappel said:
I would imagine they're still mixing and editing the audio. Those placeholder voices were probably recorded even before the professional talent was cast.
WordAssassin
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Yes, but because Pixar works with 3D what can easily be gone back to and tweaked, they can animate everything to stand-in audio and then just tweak the lip-sync once they have the final audio. If you watch the two clips of Carl and Russel pulling the house, there are already changes to what the stand-in says VS the line that's in the actual movie.adamsappel said:
And sometimes the stand-in voices get chosen to be the real voices. That's how Lou Romano got cast as Linguine after all.
Buckethead
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bartris said:
Voicework is always done first at Pixar once put into Production.
However when ideas are changed and refined once in Production, they have to re-record. I think that this is one of those scenes or it could be a test scene that they animated early on. Sometimes the essential idea is locked in, however they need to do lighting tests or cloth physics before they are in intensive production, hence the scratch voices. For example on Nemo they needed to get the "ocean look" right before they went into Production and they wouldn't call down Brooks or Degeneres just for a test.
They are in Pre-Production for a good 2 years hammering out the story. This is where the "scratch" dialogue and voices come from. Then once the story is "locked in" they start production for 2 years until the movie is released.
Basically:
PRE-PRODUCTION
-Idea Pitch to "Brain Trust"
-First Draft from Writer/Director
-Draft refined with Brain Trust multiple times
-Story boarding w/ Story Department
-Meetings with Art + Lighting Department
-Group Meeting
-Movie Cast, Staff Set
-Script Finalized
-Production Schedule Set
Then they start Production and record the voices while animators are thinking on their own about what they want to bring to the character. Having the voices however, help animators make the performances genuine and natural. Obviously it's counter-productive to have animators start animating before they hear the voice acting. Usually the director and story lead have people in mind, and they try to get that person for the movie. IE: Bob in The Incredibles was always pitched as a "Craig T type..".
It's cost-effective and just generally smart to do it that way. Anyway probably over-elaborated, but what the hey.
Buckethead
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Confused101
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In that poster, what is that thing sticking out from the right side of the house? A peacock?
I believe two of the spill guys got a chance to see this movie. Not to sound too much like i'm easily swayable by their opinion (they are after all a couple of regular ass, quite homophobic dudes), but the sheer level of giddyness these fools display having seen just the first 45 minutes of the film (with half of it being storyboards)...I gotta bump up the excitement list from rent levels to at maybe first or second weekend.
I've always heard that you learn something new everyday. Well if Wijipedia is to believed..I learned something new today. The original idea for Monsters, Inc. Was that and old man discovers a monster in his closet who scared him during his childhood. They ended up going with Boo(Mary) and are now going with the old man as the main character.
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