Does anyone use a monitor for their PS5?

kevboard

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If there are HDMI 2.0 monitors that work in VRR with PS5, I've yet to see them. I had two and neither worked (on either the PS5 nor the Pro), which is why I upgraded. Also, bandwidth has everything to do with 2.0 vs 2.1. I may have been mistaken about 2.0 (although again, experience showed me that it wasn't enough), but bandwidth plays a role.

Edit: Apparently, yes 2.0 can work, but it is hit-and-miss and most people would recommend an HDMI 2.1 reliant display.

VRR has nothing to do with bandwidth.

also "2.0 can work" is a nonsense thing to say. neither 2.0 nor 2.1 tell you if a screen supports VRR. there can be 2.1 screens without VRR support, and there can be 2.0 screens with VRR support.

2.0 also, as I said in an earlier comment, doesn't officially exist anymore. 2.0 and 2.1 have been combined under the version number 2.1

some Monitor/TV makers will still list ports as 2.0, basically to make it easier to understand how much bandwidth their ports support, even tho officially speaking they aren't really allowed to do that.

the renaming of 2.0 to 2.1 was specifically done to emphasize that basically all features are optional. these optional features include VRR
 

HeWhoWalks

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VRR has nothing to do with bandwidth.

also "2.0 can work" is a nonsense thing to say. neither 2.0 nor 2.1 tell you if a screen supports VRR. there can be 2.1 screens without VRR support, and there can be 2.0 screens with VRR support.

2.0 also, as I said in an earlier comment, doesn't officially exist anymore. 2.0 and 2.1 have been combined under the version number 2.1

some Monitor/TV makers will still list ports as 2.0, basically to make it easier to understand how much bandwidth their ports support, even tho officially speaking they aren't really allowed to do that.

the renaming of 2.0 to 2.1 was specifically done to emphasize that basically all features are optional. these optional features include VRR
The PlayStation Blog specifies: "VRR will automatically be enabled for supported games if your PS5 console is connected to an HDMI 2.1 VRR-compatible TV or PC monitor". Digital Foundry was specifically asked about this too.
 
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HeWhoWalks

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is there a monitor that is proven to run VRR on PS5 with hdmi 2.0?
Good question, although if you Google it, apparently some screens may support it, but with limitations. The two 4K Freesync LGs I had definitely didn't. For 120Hz, I'm fairly certain that 2.1 is required.

Highest res OP seems to be looking for is 1440p though, so that may be another story.
 
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kevboard

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The PlayStation Blog specifies: "VRR will automatically be enabled for supported games if your PS5 console is connected to an HDMI 2.1 VRR-compatible TV or PC monitor". Digital Foundry was specifically asked about this and don't say that 2.0 will work either

So either you know more than them or are mistaken.

again, 2.0 doesn't exist anymore. any screen that would have been categorised as 2.0 is now 2.1

Samsung patched some of their HDMI 2.0 (when it was still called 2.0) lineup with VRR support in 2018.
one of those TVs was my previous one. it supported Freesync on all 4 HDMI ports, and HDMI VRR on HDMI port 1.

the fact that this was possible to do is one of the reasons the HDMI Forum descided to combine 2.0 and 2.1 into HDMI 2.1, as basically anything was optional anyway.
 
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HeWhoWalks

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again, 2.0 doesn't exist anymore. any screen that would have been categorised as 2.0 is now 2.1

Samsung patched some of their HDMI 2.0 (when it was still called 2.0) lineup with VRR support in 2018.
one of those TVs was my previous one. it supported Freesync on all 4 HDMI ports, and HDMI VRR on HDMI port 1.

the fact that this was possible to do is one of the reasons the HDMI Forum descided to combine 2.0 and 2.1 into HDMI 2.1, as basically anything was optional anyway.
If this is true, then cool! My understanding was you needed a native (meaning shipped with) 2.1 device for it to work. Hadn't heard about the patches, so you learn something new everyday.
 

kevboard

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If this is true, then cool! My understanding was you needed a native (meaning shipped with) 2.1 device for it to work. Hadn't heard about the patches, so you learn something new everyday.

the fact that they patched them has no relevance btw... they just didn't release them with VRR support out of the box, just like how Sony released their first HDMI 2.1 TVs without VRR support and then patched them later.

here's said TV btw, the one I had.

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edit: wait, wrong model, I had the Q8 not the Q9 lol,

same features tho
 
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HeWhoWalks

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the fact that they patched them has no relevance btw... they just didn't release them with VRR support out of the box, just like how Sony released their first HDMI 2.1 TVs without VRR support and then patched them later.

here's said TV btw, the one I had.
Btw, I got HDMI bandwidth advice from RTINGS. Not specifically that article, but one of the site's owners I occasionally chat with. He actually helped me choose the one I currently have. For 4K/120Hz/VRR, he stressed an HDMI 2.1-compliant monitor, so I went with the inZone M9 II because of its ALLM/FALD features.
 

kevboard

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Btw, I got HDMI bandwidth advice from RTINGS. Not specifically that article, but one of the site's owners I occasionally chat with. He actually helped me choose the one I currently have. For 4K/120Hz/VRR, he stressed an HDMI 2.1-compliant monitor, so I went with the inZone M9 II because of its ALLM/FALD features.

ALLM is a pretty useless feature. it's just something that automatically sets the screen into the lowest latency mode when needed. but you can also always do that manually, and I personally do that and turn ALLM off immediately.

does RTINGS always add these console compatibility charts in their PC monitor tests or only for the ones in that article?

because that would be very helpful I guess.
 

HeWhoWalks

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ALLM is a pretty useless feature. it's just something that automatically sets the screen into the lowest latency mode when needed. but you can also always do that manually, and I personally do that and turn ALLM off immediately.

does RTINGS always add these console compatibility charts in their PC monitor tests or only for the ones in that article?

because that would be very helpful I guess.
Many of the reviews I read, they usually mention how well a monitor will work on the consoles.

I'm getting two of these for my PC and they give a 9.0 Rating for console gaming/compatibility (if that helps).
 
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kevboard

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Many of the reviews I read, they usually mention how well a monitor will work on the consoles.

yes I'm just looking through their reviews, and I instantly found an HDMI 2.0 Monitor that supports VRR btw


this is a 1440p monitor with HDMI 2.0 ports and with HDMI VRR support on PS5

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so this hopefully will settle this, HDMI 2.1 or 2.0 don't tell you if a screen supports HDMI Forum VRR on PS5
 
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HeWhoWalks

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yes I'm just looking through their reviews, and I instantly found an HDMI 2.0 Monitor that supports VRR btw


this is a 1440p monitor with HDMI 2.0 ports and with HDMI VRR support on PS5
Yep, I see that (although they hit it with a negative for lacking 2.1). I think the best way to put it is 2.1 is recommended, but not required (as I originally thought). Still, I appreciate your input on this!
 

kevboard

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Yep, I see that (although they hit it with a negative for lacking 2.1). I think the best way to put it is 2.1 is recommended, but not required (as I originally thought). Still, I appreciate your input on this!

no... not it's not the best way to put it.

HDMI 2.1 LITERALLY doesn't tell you if a screen supports VRR... HDMI 2.0 and 2.1 both have OPTIONAL support for HDMI Forum VRR.

there are HDMI 2.0 screens with VRR and HDMI 2.1 screens without VRR... 2.0 and 2.1 only tell you the bandwidth of the port, and even within these specs they vary a bit. and VRR has NOTHING to do with bandwidth.

like, I literally explained this in 4 or 5 posts now... this can't be hard to understand.
HDMI 2.1 does not tell you if a TV or Monitor supports VRR or not. neither does 2.0


the reason the monitor I linked has 2.0 and not 2.1 is because it's a 1440p monitor... and for a 1440p monitor HDMI 2.0 is enough as it allows for 1440p at 120hz, that's why it's 2.0 only.
 
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HeWhoWalks

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no... not it's not the best way to put it.

HDMI 2.1 LITERALLY doesn't tell you if a screen supports VRR... HDMI 2.0 and 2.1 both have OPTIONAL support for HDMI Forum VRR.

there are HDMI 2.0 screens with VRR and HDMI 2.1 screens without VRR... 2.0 and 2.1 only tell you the bandwidth of the port, and even within these specs they vary a bit. and VRR has NOTHING to do with bandwidth.

like, I literally explained this in 4 or 5 posts now... this can't be hard to understand.
HDMI 2.1 does not tell you if a TV or Monitor supports VRR or not. neither does 2.0


the reason the monitor I linked has 2.0 and not 2.1 is because it's a 1440p monitor... and for a 1440p monitor HDMI 2.0 is enough as it allows for 1440p at 120hz, that's why it's 2.0 only.
I did say that for 4K/120Hz, you need 2.1. I didn't speak on 1440p outside of what the OP is gunning for.

You're over explaining things at this point. I read/took in what I need... and at multiple sources. Trust me, I get it.
 
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kevboard

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I did say that for 4K/120Hz, you need 2.1. I didn't speak on 1440p outside of what the OP is gunning for.

You're over explaining things at this point. I read/took in what I need... and at multiple sources. Trust me, I get it.

4k was never even part of the discussion tho. OP specifically mentions 1080p and 1440p monitors, at which point the full 2.1 bandwidth becomes useless for consoles and the 2.0 bandwidth is more than enough.

the main issue is finding a 1080p or 1440p screen that supports VRR and 120hz over HDMI.
and as I have demonstrated, such screens exist, and they can have HDMI 2.0 ports. this whole discussion started due to me trying to clarify that a HDMI 2.1 label is not enough information to know what any given display supports in terms of features like VRR
 
To answer the OP's question:

Make sure the monitor can be returned if it doesn't work. Because there is no guarantee it will if it doesn't officially support HDMI VRR and most computer monitors are not certified for this because you're expected to connect them to a PC with a video card not a game console
 

kevboard

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To answer the OP's question:

Make sure the monitor can be returned if it doesn't work. Because there is no guarantee it will if it doesn't officially support HDMI VRR and most computer monitors are not certified for this because you're expected to connect them to a PC with a video card not a game console

we now know that RTINGS tests for this, so I'd say looking through their reciews for PS5 compatibility would solve this uncertainty issue
 
If so, which monitor do you use?

I’m interested in a PS5 for Apex, Rocket League and eFootball.

The way I see it;

1080p 24 inch - most PS5 games that have a 120fps mode operate at 1080p, including Apex.

1440p 24 inch (AOC q24g2a/bk) - apparently a belting monitor with tight PPI but the way PS5 downsampling works confuses me. I’ve read that it can downsample but VRR doesn’t work in 1440p mode?

Can anyone help me out here please. I’m happy with 60fps on FPS games as long as they’d be running at 4k downsampled to 1440p.
I use monitor with my PS5. It's a gigabyte M27Q. A 175hz 1440p monitor with free sync premium and some real shitty HDR. It's an ips panel. The PS5 doesn't support 175hz unfortunately but it does do 120 which I use in games like Overwatch. The monitor supports vrr as well. The monitor also has strobing which I use with 120hz to get great motion fidelity but I don't recommend it because it has a big that makes the colors look funny.

The image quality is ok nothing crazy but it was only $300 it was a decent monitor for what it is.
 

HeWhoWalks

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4k was never even part of the discussion tho. OP specifically mentions 1080p and 1440p monitors, at which point the full 2.1 bandwidth becomes useless for consoles and the 2.0 bandwidth is more than enough.

the main issue is finding a 1080p or 1440p screen that supports VRR and 120hz over HDMI.
and as I have demonstrated, such screens exist, and they can have HDMI 2.0 ports. this whole discussion started due to me trying to clarify that a HDMI 2.1 label is not enough information to know what any given display supports in terms of features like VRR
4K was for me (I went back and read the he meant those lower resolutions specifically) and I realized that confusion earlier, when I said…

Highest res OP seems to be looking for is 1440p though, so that may be another story”.
 
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