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[DonkeyPunchJr]

SBI isn't even involved in this title. And yes, culture war tourists. As I mentioned earlier, this is the original artwork for the Western release of DQ3 (named dragon warrior 3).
We even have people unironically posting Asmongold takes, who often says that he hates "weeb games".

What are you even trying to prove by posting this?

HEY GUYS. If you were OK with Enix censoring NES games and replacing anime with western fantasy art back when you were 9 years old and never even heard of anime or Akira Toriyama, you have no right to complain about it now!

 

[GrouchyGamer]

Been looking forward to this game since it was announced, but nope, not going to support anything with even a hint of woke culture nonsense. Everyone else, enjoy!

 

[yogaflame]

The bad thing about Japan today is they are allowing themselves to be influence by twisted gender ideology of the west even in there society. Japan has lost there sense of pride this days. They have the wrong notion that twisted dei especially twisted gender ideology is the trend of this days and will sell more, because it is impose and force to your throats in the west, while in fact even in the west, they are already getting angry and so many backlash against it. Allot of tv shoes, movies and games has flop due to twisted dei especially twisted gender ideology.

 

[jcorb]

What kind of idiot can’t accept the Male and Female genders exist, and aren’t social constructs?

You be you, live however you want to live, I’m all for it. But I am not about blatantly promoting igorance on objective fact.

 

[ap_puff]

What are you even trying to prove by posting this?

HEY GUYS. If you were OK with Enix censoring NES games and replacing anime with western fantasy art back when you were 9 years old and never even heard of anime or Akira Toriyama, you have no right to complain about it now!

When every single thread is about REE, censorship, woke, blahblahblah. It's just as f'ing annoying as people who are constantly talking about how there aren't enough LGBTQREE. I'm just here to talk about the games, I didn't come here to read the comment section of MSNBC.

 

[DoktorCoktor]

And? The original release already showed that they were willing to "change the artist's intent" to appeal to Western audiences. The difference is we didnt' have a bunch of culture war idiots come into every conversation to ruin shit, it came out and was a BANGER of a game, one of the true NES classic jrpgs. And not a peep about how we were "disrespecting the artist's vision" (lol). Ya'll tried to do this with Stellar Blade too with all that "outfit censorship" bullshit, guess what it came out and was a BANGER with lots of eye candy. Get a life and enjoy games already.

What does western localizers altering the artstyle because they were trying to appeal to western sword & magic nerds at the time have to do with lazy uninspired edits of the original Akira Toriyama designs? One instance only affects a particular market, and it wasn't even done by the actual Japanese creators. The other instance is blatant censorship that was obviously influenced by ESG/DEI modern day "global standards" BS. One instance is like changing a game's box art for American storefronts only and the other is someone dictating that everyone else has to do the same, even the Japanese in their own domestic market. How do you not see what the problem here is? Also, I've never played Dragon Warrior, only the fan translated SNES Japanese release.

 

[StereoVsn]

What I don’t get is why is SE doing this. It’s sure fire way to piss off their long term fans who are the main audience.

“Modern Audience” isn’t going to pay $60 for this generally speaking, so who are they doing it for? I will still get a physical copy because I am a big DQ fan, but might export Japanese / Asian copy if the cover art is better there. The whole thing is just annoying.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

When every single thread is about REE, censorship, woke, blahblahblah. It's just as f'ing annoying as people who are constantly talking about how there aren't enough LGBTQREE. I'm just here to talk about the games, I didn't come here to read the comment section of MSNBC.

Maybe you should’ve read the thread title before clicking on it. Feel free to use that “ignore thread” button up there if it upsets you so much.

And I still don’t know what point you were trying to make by posting some Dragon Warrior III scans

 

[RedPyramidHead]

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

 

[a multicultural team of v]

First off it's funny to actually see Torishima, since my entire knowledge of him is from Dr. Slump

But it's a shame that there is still the misconception that it is religious people in America demanding these changes. It hasn't been that way in a LONG time...

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

My Japanese isn't the best (which is to say, it's terrible and useless), but... is that translation really what they're saying? It sounds right but uhm... are they really just sitting around opining on how fucking retarded the US' lefty culture has become?

 

[BlackTron]

The irony is who cares what the name is, if it’s a binary it’s still just male or female. It’s why I never really bought the whole 1984 “double plus good” thing. If “double plus good” is the new “good” and “good” is now bad it just shifts the language and does nothing to the biological feeling being the word.

It’s like saying calling French fries “chips” has some deep physiological meaning. It’s just a word. I’m not going to get upset over the change, because in the end it is pointless. These people can’t rewrite reality and when shit really hits the fan, truth will always win.

The reason they used phrases like "double plus good" and "doubleplusungood" was to erode and blur the delivery between good and bad news. It all ends up sounding samey and encouraging you not to care about the difference, the same way common Russians digest news because they are powerless. There may as well not be a difference between good and bad to them, they have to have the same opinion about it anyway.

It's like calling war a SMO, only it phonetically sounds so similar the difference is even more dubious to someone who isn't allowed their own opinion anyway.

The goal here is a similar "line blurring" while convincing us it's fine and doesn't matter anyway.

 

[Filben]

I don't care how they label it as long I can play a character who looks like a man or woman. What's more concerning is the androgynous look of the character. Give me some good feminine hair cuts.

When reading the title I initially thought you can't choose anymore, though.

 

[YukiOnna]

While they have the wrong culprit in religion (although that could just be from Torishima's experience back then), it's good to see all of them basically wonder "what the fuck is this and what a pain in the ass it is to deal with" .

 

[Trilobit]

"Who cares if they change it to this?"
Someo people apparently did care enough to change it.
"What does it matter if X is zxjhcghyd-sexual now?"
It did matter enough for the people who changed it.

The question is why did it matter so much to them and what is their endgame with the changes? Because the slippery slope is indeed real, but I don't know what they are aiming for. All I know is that they want to erase reality a little bit at a time, constantly pushing things one step more and saying "well, a is now b so why can't it become c now?" And later "a is now d, so why can't it become e?"

 

[Bernardougf]

"Who cares if they change it to this?"
Someo people apparently did care enough to change it.
"What does it matter if X is zxjhcghyd-sexual now?"
It did matter enough for the people who changed it.

The question is why did it matter so much to them and what is their endgame with the changes? Because the slippery slope is indeed real, but I don't know what they are aiming for. All I know is that they want to erase reality a little bit at a time, constantly pushing things one step more and saying "well, a is now b so why can't it become c now?" And later "a is now d, so why can't it become e?"

Yeah.. this mentality is bizarre . "Why do you care? just consume product!" ... and is exactly as you said.. THEY cared enough to make the changes, if they care why the hell cant you care ? ... if it is not important why change something in the game ? And If it is important than you should for sure take notice and make your purchase choices accordingly

 

[Cao Cao]

 

[Madonis]

First off it's funny to actually see Torishima, since my entire knowledge of him is from Dr. Slump

But it's a shame that there is still the misconception that it is religious people in America demanding these changes. It hasn't been that way in a LONG time...

While they have the wrong culprit in religion (although that could just be from Torishima's experience back then), it's good to see all of them basically wonder "what the fuck is this and what a pain in the ass it is to deal with" .

Torishima is speaking based on his personal experience getting manga published in the U.S. You may call it a misconception, but it's a historical fact.

Certainly, things have changed. Yes, there are folks on the left who complain about sexualization in media, etc. and I imagine that is a concern for publishers too.

That said, you don't need to get a time machine to see current examples of manga and anime being banned or removed from libraries in the U.S. due to conservative pressure:

According to reports, Gifford Middle School in Florida removed three books of Assassination Classroom from its library. Jennifer Pippin, a local chair of Moms for Liberty, said the books were incredibly inappropriate to have in schools. "We don't want students to think it's OK to kill their teachers," Pippin shared.

Book Ban Movement Targets Assassination Classroom in Florida and More

It seems like school book bans are beginning to turn their focus to manga. According to a new report from Florida, a middle school in the eastern part of the state removed the manga from its library after receiving complaints. The manga is also facing a ban in the Elmbrook School District in...

comicbook.com

Personally, I find some delicious irony in a conservative group called "Moms for Liberty" trying to restrict the freedom/liberty of other people to find certain books in libraries.

For that matter, here's another yet somehow particularly hilarious example:

“This material could be very offensive to a student,” read the complaint. The person added that it is harmful for children to be “exposed to age-inappropriate” content as it could “lead to struggles with porno” and “compulsive masturbation.” Asked to suggest material of the same subject and format that would be suitable as a substitute, the unnamed person wrote: “I do not feel the subject of homosexuality should be offered at school. Here are other alternatives: Chainsaw Man, To Your Eternity, The Seven Deadly Sins, A Silent Voice, Sailor Moon.” The inclusion of Sailor Moon is another surprise as the original manga depicts a lesbian romance between Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus.

Florida School Board Bans Popular BL Manga Sasaki and Miyano

A school board in Florida has banned Sasaki and Miyano after a person complained, calling the popular BL manga series "offensive."

www.tokyoweekender.com

At the end of the day though, I find myself agreeing with Torishima in that the U.S. is often acting as a ridiculous country, period, regardless of which side the pressure is coming from.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

Torishima is speaking based on his personal experience getting manga published in the U.S. You may call it a misconception, but it's a historical fact.

Certainly, things have changed. Yes, there are folks on the left who complain about sexualization in media, etc. and I imagine that is a concern for publishers too.

That said, you don't need to get a time machine to see current examples of manga and anime being banned or removed from libraries in the U.S. due to conservative pressure:

Book Ban Movement Targets Assassination Classroom in Florida and More

It seems like school book bans are beginning to turn their focus to manga. According to a new report from Florida, a middle school in the eastern part of the state removed the manga from its library after receiving complaints. The manga is also facing a ban in the Elmbrook School District in...

comicbook.com

Personally, I find some delicious irony in a conservative group called "Moms for Liberty" trying to restrict the freedom/liberty of other people to find certain books in libraries.

For that matter, here's another yet somehow particularly hilarious example:

Florida School Board Bans Popular BL Manga Sasaki and Miyano

A school board in Florida has banned Sasaki and Miyano after a person complained, calling the popular BL manga series "offensive."

www.tokyoweekender.com

At the end of the day though, I find myself agreeing with Torishima in that the U.S. is often acting as a ridiculous country, period, regardless of which side the pressure is coming from.

Ok yeah that's true, I forgot about a lot of that in the south. But to be fair, a lot of those groups exist because there was basically porn being put in elementary school libraries, so now they are acting like a hammer and seeing nails everywhere which is definitely also a problem. I think its going to be a problem for the backlash against "DEI" in general in that it is going to go way too far, but that is another topic. That's the problem with pendulums, if you let it swing too far one way it has to swing far back the other.

edit: it is also important to note that the Gifford Middle school used as an example in the first one has 600 students. Elmbrook School District as 7k students. Brevard County in the second example has 75k students in it - there are over 330 million people in the United States, and this website is writing an article that affects 80k people at most. These kind of things are not widespread, and its a feature of America that decisions like this can and are made locally.

 

[Little Mac]

Why can’t this stuff be an option toggle in the main menu?

 

[Kacho]

Why can’t this stuff be an option toggle in the main menu?

Because the OG designs don’t exist in the remake. They were deemed “problematic” by the consulting company in the early stages of development.

 

[Fake]

Why can’t this stuff be an option toggle in the main menu?

See how they want to push some agenda?

Sometimes options are good, sometimes options aren't.

 

[hemo memo]

C'mon Japan, not you too. The craziness of the west is enough.

 

[DoktorCoktor]

Why can’t this stuff be an option toggle in the main menu?

Because being able to opt out of ideological marxist propaganda is not supposed to be an option.

"The answer in my opinion is to grow the party. To multiply the ranks of Marxist, communist revolutionaries who are clear about the path forward, who are clear that the liberation of the working class and the oppressed from the nightmare of capitalism lies in the class struggle, which must end up in the establishment of socialism. However, we will never find those future cadre, those future fighters, if they don’t know we are here and if they don’t know what we stand for. So we must expose capitalism and promote socialism whenever and wherever we can. Since we are already a struggle party, since we gravitate to all resistance movements, we have the activity side covered. It’s the ideological war that must be strengthened. This must be done thoughtfully, artfully and sensitively, but it must be done."

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78-03362A000500130004-6.pdf

On the Role of Agitation and Propaganda