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[SJRB]

It was a JOKE. And dude came back with self fart-sniffing "You ignorant fool, Dune was scribed upon the parchment in the greatest traditions of sci-fi literature so many moons before even such seminal works as Star Wars..."

Seriously, you motherfuckers sometimes

 

[Jsisto]

It was a JOKE. And dude came back with self fart-sniffing "You ignorant fool, Dune was scribed upon the parchment in the greatest traditions of sci-fi literature so many moons before even such seminal works as Star Wars..."

Seriously, you motherfuckers sometimes

Fair enough, apologies. It’s hard to tell sometimes. We’re all nutcases.

Just don’t stray from the golden path again.

 

[Jsisto]

I never thought I'd live in a timeline where a Dune movie conquers the box office

That’s awesome! This may just be me being pretentious, but I hope the story and message resonates enough with the average moviegoing audience for people to stick around for sequels.

The girl sitting next to me in the theatre was flailing around like some kind of human emoticon every time something dark or unexpected happened. Had half a mind to tell her to just sit still and enjoy the damn movie.

 

[Red5]

Dune Messiah adaptation at this point is a given, it gives closure to Paul Atreides story. Rest of the books that delve into the fate of Humanity thousands of years into the future, while great in writing, don't seem to be movie friendly. Maybe a TV Miniseries.

 

[March Climber]

So according to Hollywood-math, it needs to make 1.5x back to break even. The budget of Dune 2 is allegedly between 120-190m.

Can this movie realistically reach 285m?

 

[violence]

I saw this last night. I think the only movie I’ve seen in the theater since Covid is Avatar 2. I went all out and bought the bullshit overpriced popcorn and drink. It felt so nostalgic.

I thought the movie was pretty terrific. A bit light on action, but so was the first one. Denis Villeneuve is up there with Ridley Scott as far as being a great visualist Director.

 

[Gp1]

A sci-fi popcorn/lite version of Lawrence of Arabia. What more could i expect...

My only reservation was the slow beginning without establishing some time jumps to let Paul mature, they could even cut some good 10-15 minutes there or use the screentime to develop Feyd better.

 

[jason10mm]

Liked it quite a bit. Not a fan of chani in this, zendayas range is surly, happy surly, and sad surly. Pughs costumes became progressively more distracting. Bene gesserits getting pwned is always satisfying.

There are a lot of themes to be explored, intentional or not. Walken was wasted, as was Taylor Joy. But Chalamey won me over by the end.

Still feel the Lynch version encapsulates the books far better.

 

[bender]

Don't really know the source material and didn't see the first movie but this was mostly a good time although a little grandiose at times. I might be a huge asshole but the thing that was on my mind for the majority of the movie was, "how the fuck do the get off the worms?". lol

 

[Grildon Tundy]

So according to Hollywood-math, it needs to make 1.5x back to break even. The budget of Dune 2 is allegedly between 120-190m.

Can this movie realistically reach 285m?

According to this website, most movies make 50% of Week 1 sales in Week 2. So if Dune made back its budget in Week 1, and needs 50% more to break even, then, yes--easily.

How important is the opening week to a movie's total box office?

I was contacted by a reader who asked about the importance of the opening weekend as a percentage of the total amount a movie will gross. Specifically, they asked about Black Panther, a movie which has stayed in cinemas for longer than most and for which the high point of press attention seemed...

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[StreetsofBeige]

Dune 1 did about 50% less. And it's total box office was $434M. So this movie might do $800M or more if it does a similar trend going forward.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

‘Dune: Part 2’ Is The Eighth Highest Scored Movie In History On IMDB

Denis Villeneuve’s Dune: Part Two has many saying it’s one of the best science fiction movies in history. So far, the numbers appear to be bearing that out.

www.forbes.com

 

[ZehDon]

It was a JOKE. And dude came back with self fart-sniffing "You ignorant fool, Dune was scribed upon the parchment in the greatest traditions of sci-fi literature so many moons before even such seminal works as Star Wars..."

Seriously, you motherfuckers sometimes

Actually, I gave you the benefit of the doubt because the book is sixty years old. If you wanna be a cock-ring about it, you're in the wrong thread.

Back on topic, I've gone through the Part 2 soundtrack, and man is it good. Up there with Interstellar in terms of OSTs that elevate.

 

[Shubh_C63]

I am unable to find the spoiler thread for the movie ?

Also why no 3D for this movie? I love IMAX-2D format but the first Dune in 3D was insane. That Worm eating scene resides in my head rent free.

 

[RavenSan]

It was so goddamn good.

That's my 5 word review.

BOOK SPOILERS BELOW

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I'm not sure if they're planning on doing Messiah how they're going to have Paul & Chani have a son (who then dies) since they went a different route. If he doesn't have the first son that dies, he also doesn't (maybe) have the twins? Or maybe they just scrap the first son, and go straight to the twins. Either way, Chani would need to come back. Easiest way would be she realizes she's pregnant after she left, and then comes back at the beginning of Messiah, and then immediately just have the twins.

THEN MAKE CHILDREN AND GOD EMPEROR MOVIES. PLEASE. I NEED TO SEE THE GOD EMPEROR ON THE BIG SCREEN.

 

[FunkMiller]

Absolutely fucking magnificent in almost every single respect.

I didn't think Villeneuve would nail what Dune is actually about: the dangers of religious fervour and messianic belief, but by christ, he did it.

Yes, a lot has to be missed out - but he nails what the story is meant to be, and what Herbert intended it to be.

Now very much hoping he gets to make Messiah, and we can see the full extent of Paul's horrific crusade.

EDIT... although, remembering Dune Messiah, Villeneuve will have to make quite a lot of changes. The quality of the Dune books goes downhill... reaching an absolute nadir with Chapterhouse that I could personally barely get through.

Still, I'm sure the

Spoiler

killer dwarf, Chalamet going full blind Neo in The Matrix Revolutions, and Jason Momoa stretching his limited acting muscles as a mentat should be good for a laugh.

 

[EviLore]

Very good overall, like the first one.

Same problems as the first one too, but they matter more this time. Distractingly bad fight choreography, PG-13 limitations, and Zendaya can’t act.

 

[Hardensoul]

Very good overall, like the first one.

Same problems as the first one too, but they matter more this time. Distractingly bad fight choreography, PG-13 limitations, and Zendaya can’t act.

Zendaya easily weakest actor in this. Chalamet was really good after taking water of life. Before that he was just ok.

Not liking Chani’s interpretation overall. The last Chani scene is 180 from other interpretations. Which could lead to really change to plot in Messiah.

But overall great movie, really want to see it in theaters again.

 

[Toons]

Reading something into the post, evidently. I never used the word "diverse." I only cited 3 particularly bad choices of casting: Momoa, for being corny and tainted by association with Marvel trash; Zendaya, for being simply a bad actress who is not remotely beautiful like the book/previous film would suggest for the character; and the new Paul, who is a decent actor but oddly small and effeminate for the role, a major downgrade from McLachlan.

Momoa hasn't been in any marvel films.

Zendaya is gorgeous.

Paul is not effeminate in any way lmao.

This entire post is nonsensical. I've not seen the first film, and I've not seen this one, but I guarantee you you are seeing things where they arent there.

 

[Toons]

I guess her father's name Coleman is too boring for her ambitions so she removed it. Which is all I'll ever need to know about her as a person.

She went with a mononumous name because she was inspired by the likes of Prince, Cher, and Madonna. As in, this is something a TON of artists do, and says absolutely nothing about her as a person.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Very good overall, like the first one.

Same problems as the first one too, but they matter more this time. Distractingly bad fight choreography, PG-13 limitations, and Zendaya can’t act.

I thought the fight choreography was pretty good. I'm glad it wasn't over choreographed at least. I agree it could have done with more blood. Especially in the arena scene on gedi prime.

 

[violence]

There’s a benefit of being a younger audience viewer in that you won’t be distracted by Christopher Walken as the emperor. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Momoa hasn't been in any marvel films.

Comic book films, sorry -- they are all the same to me, embarrassments to adults.

Zendaya is gorgeous.

Agree to disagree... she has a boyish body and a smurf face.

Paul is not effeminate in any way lmao.

He most certainly is. I don't think it fits to cast a guy who has a permanent child face without any jaw to speak of, and a voice register that is about an octave higher than the average adult male.

 

[EviLore]

There is a lot of questionable casting to go around.

Zendaya is just awful. Constipated face, no emotional range, sounds like a valley girl instead of an Arab.

Chalamet is supposed to be stoic and in control emotionally but his output is just wooden until the finale. Him and Zendaya both being wooden doesn’t fare well while trying to sell the romance. He does pull off the finale convincingly though.

Florence Pugh is okay as Irulan but doesn’t have screen presence on par with Rebecca Ferguson or Lea Seydoux. It’s like they gave her a goofy outfit in the finale to try to make up for it.

Christopher Walken is distractingly out of place. If we're going that route why not bring back Sting?!

 

[Hardensoul]

There’s a benefit of being a younger audience viewer in that you won’t be distracted by Christopher Walken as the emperor. Ignorance is bliss.

Christopher Walken was really out of place, wish Emperor had more screen time showing why he had to get rid of the Atreides. But more screen time with Walken may have ruin this movie . I also don’t buy the reason for Emperors motive in the movie, it was another big departure.

Spoiler

Bene Gesuite did not convince him to get rid of the Atreides, it was Emperors jealousy and fear of Atreides gaining too much power

 

[BossLackey]

I never thought I'd live in a timeline where a Dune movie conquers the box office

 

[thefool]

Christopher Walken was really out of place, wish Emperor had more screen time showing why he had to get rid of the Atreides. But more screen time with Walken may have ruin this movie . I also don’t buy the reason for Emperors motive in the movie, it was another big departure.

I can only imagine their realization on set how badly cast he was for the part.

 

[Hardensoul]

I can only imagine their realization on set how badly cast he was for the part.

What’s up with his hair looking like Christopher Lloyd in Back from the Future!

 

[jason10mm]

I can only imagine their realization on set how badly cast he was for the part.

How? He has been doing the same character for like 30 years, you know EXACTLY what you are gonna get when you hire Walken. I think Denis just likes him.

I think there must have been more with Walken and Pugh (those costumes had to represent something addressed in deleted scenes) but it was all cut in favor of more chani. Always more chani. I'm glad they gave some time to feyd as well, it was a bit one note with him always stabbing random attendants (you'd think EVERYONE would have learned to tread more carefully but it's a common trope) but still fun and lively.

For me it's Javier Bardem that really steals the film, he makes you believe a 160 pound boy can lead men into battle. I disliked that they seemed to sever his blood relationship with Chani and make it almost a mocking one instead. Is she still the daughter of Kynes in this? I don't think so, though that would explain how/why she is so suspicious of the bene gesserit.

 

[Alebrije]

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[Alebrije]

This guy ( above)

Is this one from the original movie:

 

[jason10mm]

This guy ( above)

Is this one from the original movie:

For my money there is more life, personality, and FUN in almost any pic from Dune 1984 than the recent one. Such a great film across the board. I know it's rose colored nostalgia glasses for sure but I know I'll watch it AT KEAST 10 more times before I die and I suspect Dune pts 1&2 will get only 1 to 2 rewatches at most.

 

[Alebrije]

For my money there is more life, personality, and FUN in almost any pic from Dune 1984 than the recent one. Such a great film across the board. I know it's rose colored nostalgia glasses for sure but I know I'll watch it AT KEAST 10 more times before I die and I suspect Dune pts 1&2 will get only 1 to 2 rewatches at most.

It's the approach , the original one for me gives more fun , this new versión has a more dark tone. I like both but the original one has better fun factor, like a Indiana Jones movie.

 

[VideoGameEnjoyer]

Awesome movie. I had a few issues with pacing and character motivations not being explained properly when walking out of the theater on Saturday. But since then I have just been having positive thoughts about it overall. Denis is an amazing director and the visual stuff here is really top tier.

Need to see it again, part one and two back to back will be a great watch. Need part 3 now!

 

[Hardensoul]

It's the approach , the original one for me gives more fun , this new versión has a more dark tone. I like both but the original one has better fun factor, like an Indiana Jones movie.

I liked both, I was surprised of Sting’s acting and enjoyed him as Feyd. New Feyd is scary, psychotic. Loved it!

Edit: At first I thought Austin Butler was one of the Karsgard brothers!

 

[violence]

Well, apparently “Fatboy Slim - weapon of choice” lyrics are about Dune.

Source

https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/x2KHKNOljs

Actual song

“Walk without rhythm. It won’t attract the worm.”

 

[Alebrije]

Well, apparently “Fatboy Slim - weapon of choice” lyrics are about Dune.

Source

https://www.reddit.com/r/dune/s/x2KHKNOljs

Actual song

“Walk without rhythm. It won’t attract the worm.”

Of course , the emperator danced it decades ago.

Also

"Dont be shocked by the tone of my voice" it's the new weapon the weapon of choice..

It's referencence to the voice power...

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I must be the ideal audience for this movie, because I loved it, flaws and all, and am fully on the hype train of this being one of the best trilogies of all time. It's up there with LOTR for me. We'll see how they stick the landing.

Edit: At first I thought Austin Butler was one of the Karsgard brothers!

Same! Thought it was the Pennywise actor. Apparently Austin Butler mimicked Stellan's voice. I'd say he was successful in that he tricked us both.

 

[OmegaSupreme]

For my money there is more life, personality, and FUN in almost any pic from Dune 1984 than the recent one. Such a great film across the board. I know it's rose colored nostalgia glasses for sure but I know I'll watch it AT KEAST 10 more times before I die and I suspect Dune pts 1&2 will get only 1 to 2 rewatches at most.

I can't with that one. It's way too rushed and strays way too far from the source material. It's weird but it doesn't have much value at all for me. I'd rather watch the super-dated mini-series from 2000 over it. At least it had more respect for the book.

 

[Hardensoul]

I must be the ideal audience for this movie, because I loved it, flaws and all, and am fully on the hype train of this being one of the best trilogies of all time. It's up there with LOTR for me. We'll see how they stick the landing.


Same! Thought it was the Pennywise actor. Apparently Austin Butler mimicked Stellan's voice. I'd say he was successful in that he tricked us both.

I loved the movie and the flaws did not detract my enjoyment of the movie. One of the best 2 movie adaptations I’ve seen.

But as a Dune fan I’ll acknowledge the flaws and state the things I didn’t like done difference from the Book. Some changes are good some are bad!!

 

[Hardensoul]

I can't with that one. It's way too rushed and strays way too far from the source material. It's weird but it doesn't have much value at all for me. I'd rather watch the super-dated mini-series from 2000 over it. At least it had more respect for the book.

Dune 1984 has a special place for me. I loved it then and I like it now for what it was. It got me into Dune. I except its flaws. I can still watch today! Plus Sean Young was fire and also in Blade Runner! Very underrated in actress!

 

[jason10mm]

I can't with that one. It's way too rushed and strays way too far from the source material. It's weird but it doesn't have much value at all for me. I'd rather watch the super-dated mini-series from 2000 over it. At least it had more respect for the book

Come on, those boxy shields, the wacky sonic weapons, the baroque set design, it's all great. The narration, the dreamy visions, raining on Arrakis. Perfect way to adapt an elaborate and complex narrative into a single film. Normally I do prefer hewing closely to the source material, but if you are gonna make your own interpretation, do it with STYLE. Since I liked all of Lynch's changes the movie works for me, though I acknowledge it is quite different from the novel. The Syfy miniseries just lacks scope. The new films have that in spades, of course. I just don't think the choice to accelerate the timeline to less than a 9 month gestation and remove most of the emotional aspect to Paul and Chani and replace it with skepticism and doubt works as well.

 

[thefool]

How? He has been doing the same character for like 30 years, you know EXACTLY what you are gonna get when you hire Walken. I think Denis just likes him.

Walken didn't made a career looking like he couldn't read lines, not displaying any emotion nor unable to command a scene. He, sadly, looked like a walking corpse. I speculate they expected him to be in much better shape.

 

[Jsisto]

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I feel as though Chani distancing herself from Paul would have made a lot more sense in the movie if they dealt with their first son being killed like in the book. There could have been a longer timeskip to account for him being born, and also would have made their romance feel more genuine. She could have found out she was pregnant again before the climax, and start to have mixed feelings about staying by his side during his jihad for the safety of the twins.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

The final knife fight not having any music to accompany it was a nice touch but the actual fighting choreography was poor.

 

[March Climber]

Agree to disagree... she has a boyish body and a smurf face.

I think Zendaya’s body is comparable to most east asian women, but she is taller, which is why I think some here call her ‘boyish’. She definitely is not though…

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I think Zendaya’s body is comparable to most east asian women, but she is taller, which is why I think some here call her ‘boyish’. She definitely is not though…

Not to go all "sharp knees" but... okay yep I'm going to do it anyway.

That dress is exactly what someone like her should wear, because the additional fabric to the sides (as well as the curve of the green line) is meant to give the appearance of hips, and turn a boyish silhouette into an illusion of feminine shape.

Left: with the fabric flows around her
Right: approximate reality

The additional fabric illusion is evident as she turns, and you have a nice view of the added piece here... along with her totally flat backside:

With enough make-up and strategically cut clothing, she looks okay on a red carpet for a minute... but in pretty much every shot of Dune, she's about as androgynous and unappealing as possible.

 

[Jsisto]

Not to go all "sharp knees" but... okay yep I'm going to do it anyway.

That dress is exactly what someone like her should wear, because the additional fabric to the sides (as well as the curve of the green line) is meant to give the appearance of hips, and turn a boyish silhouette into an illusion of feminine shape.

Left: with the fabric flows around her
Right: approximate reality

The additional fabric illusion is evident as she turns, and you have a nice view of the added piece here... along with her totally flat backside:

With enough make-up and strategically cut clothing, she looks okay on a red carpet for a minute... but in pretty much every shot of Dune, she's about as androgynous and unappealing as possible.

Gotta be honest, those are valid points. I don’t have a problem with scrawny girls, and I do think she can be beautiful in the right context(she has a nice face IMO). But the way she presents herself is very masculine and she always looks like she’s pissed off about something.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Gotta be honest, those are valid points. I don’t have a problem with scrawny girls, and I do think she can be beautiful in the right context(she has a nice face IMO). But the way she presents herself is very masculine and she always looks like she’s pissed off about something.

To me the biggest shame is that Paul's mother is classically beautiful.

...but he's out here dreaming about this desert scowling boy girl

 

[jason10mm]

To me the biggest shame is that Paul's mother is classically beautiful.

...but he's out here dreaming about this desert scowling boy girl

Soooooo, he should be dreaming about his MOTHER instead? This isn't Game of Thrones

As for Zendaya, I'd like to throw out a similarly built slim woman who instead oozes sex appeal when the role calls for it...Zoe Saldana.

Imagine a 20 years younger Zoe as Chani..

I get the desire for a lanky, rangey, tough looking woman as Chani. But Zendaya can't really play to other aspects of Chani and I didn't buy the relationship with Paul for a SECOND, other than that every other Freman woman was equally as rough around the edges and....well..... any port in the storm, eh? Makes Irulan seem soft and welcoming by comparison for sure.