thelastword
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Truer words have never been spoken.......It's all about where the best games are........
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Dusk Golem: PS5 costs around $600 at launch to produce
Stiflers Mom
Banned
What happened to all these people who told me that it's not 2006 anymore and 599 is okay now?
killatopak
Member
I trust Dusk in anything Capcom related.
Outside of that, I’m much more reserved and skeptical.
Outside of that, I’m much more reserved and skeptical.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
technically accurate when you talk about inflation, the only problem with 600 right now is the fact that XBOX would be cheaper
demigod
Member
Neo Blaster
Member
Says the guy who spread misinformation about RE8 running on PS5 just to 'balance' console wars and was demoted from mod on ERA.
the 5th best selling home console had to cut the price to 400€ under 6 month from releasing. Stop being dumb with comparison
Vawn
Banned
What's dumb is people who pretend that the PS3 was some kind of colossal failure, when it outsold every Xbox console and every Nintendo console except the Wii.
PS3 was a failure compared to other home consoles. PS3 was no selling even in Europe at 600€ being the biggest market for Sony ever. They had to cut the price to 400€ to be competitive
kuncol02
Banned
Their GPU is smaller, but working on much higher frequency which will lower yield of chips. MS can also use partially not working chips in XSS. That will lower production cost of XSX, Sony need to discard them.
John Wick
Member
The APU is the most expensive component in a console. The PS5 SSD isn't $300. I don't know where this nonsense keeps on coming from?
sendit
Member
That’s the MSRP price of a comparable SSD drive. I wouldn’t be surprised if the SSD and the APU are very close in cost.
Vawn
Banned
You mean the Wii? Because the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide despite the 360 having a full year head start and lower price.
ZehDon
Member
$600 BOM for the disc based console? I'm gonna need to see the receipts on that one.
Cerny's no fool. I've said I could see the PS5 launching at $599, but I would expect Sony to make a profit on that figure. They don't have to take a loss on the hardware, at least from my perspective; their domination in the market, and Microsoft launching without any games, means they only need to price aggressively if they want to. They drop a God of War: Ragnarok reveal, and a USD$599.00 console would still sell out at launch.
Cerny's no fool. I've said I could see the PS5 launching at $599, but I would expect Sony to make a profit on that figure. They don't have to take a loss on the hardware, at least from my perspective; their domination in the market, and Microsoft launching without any games, means they only need to price aggressively if they want to. They drop a God of War: Ragnarok reveal, and a USD$599.00 console would still sell out at launch.
Astral Dog
Member
I can believe $499
We still don't know the price of the Series X right
We still don't know the price of the Series X right
JonnyMP3
Member
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Iced Arcade
Member
Sony isn't going to charge more than the competitor for weaker and Sony is never touching "$599" again. And this guy knows as much about anything as my cat and 5% less than my dog.
HeresJohnny
Member
They righted the ship but it cost them dearly, nearly ceded the generation to their closest competitor and lost a ton of mindshare in the process. I'm as big a Playstation fan as the next guy; to me it's synonymous with console gaming as much as Nintendo, but let's get real here: they're going up against Santa Claus. MS is trying to woo people into the "free games" camp, a move which I think is going to be disastrous for the industry but could very well potentially hurt it worse if their plan succeeds due to Sony being fucking dumb and releasing a $500 machine in a bad economy. They know better than anyone why they shouldn't do it, but it sounds like they might anyway.
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Why do people listen to this guy? He doesn't even know how to make a sandwich. So, what makes you think that he knows how to calculate BOMs?
Vawn
Banned
Is that why their next home console, the PS4, failed so miserably?
HeresJohnny
Member
Like I said, they righted the ship and hit on every single cylinder with the PS4. So no, but the PS4 will be a case study in why the PS5 struggles if the veer away from the basics that they got so right this time around.
CityHunter1981
An Absolute Desaster
I am getting sick of these XBOX Series X is more powerful. That is fact, but people have to think what that actually means, that might mean that XBOX can easier reach smooth 4k, but according to the latest studies only 2% of people have a 4K television right now. Furthermore I also have a 4K television and I have never said even once during this console generation: "wow, now I want to play this game in 4k". The thing I complained about and most people did are the loading times and when it comes to loading times Sony has the edge with their faster SSD.
All I want to say is that most people will not see an advantage when buying XBOX Series X over PS5, but all people will recognize the small difference in loading times.
All I want to say is that most people will not see an advantage when buying XBOX Series X over PS5, but all people will recognize the small difference in loading times.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Well, it’s not wrong.
Aggelos
Member
Maybe he saw the hype for the ps5 showcase so he wanted to balance the equation again
Even though Bloomberg said the estimated bill of materials is about $450 back in Feburary when NAND chips and gddr6 were high in price because of the lockdown in china and the uncertainty of the covid-19.
Texas Pride
Banned
Even if you hate Sony. Believing a guy who has already been caught literally making shit up for attention isn't the wisest thing to do. We're looking at $399 Digital and $450-$499 physical PS5 imo. The fear mongering by people who get off on chaos needs to stop.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I’m kind of thinking a potentially expensive price is why they are holding out so long. They could be afraid of the backlash if it’s over $499. I figure if it was priced at around $399 or even $449, they would of shown it by now. We’ll see eventually. Hopefully before launch day.
freefornow
Gold Member
Those saying $449 for the Disc version are you thinking it's not coming with a controller? Think that would be the only way because this new controller h a s a fair bit of tech and probably expensive to produce.
Also, PS5 does not need to undercut the XSX. PlayStation is dominant in the market and will be in demand simply by being PlayStation.
That's not arrogance, that is a result of everything that have done this gen.
Also, PS5 does not need to undercut the XSX. PlayStation is dominant in the market and will be in demand simply by being PlayStation.
That's not arrogance, that is a result of everything that have done this gen.
Bryank75
Banned
A higher price would look worse after Xbox revealing a lower price and give people less time to save / budget, that is what I'm thinking.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I definitely agree with you.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 was cheaper.
The biggest difference was the big APU on XB1 due almost half of it being eSRAM (that is the reason it was underpowered too).
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supernova8
Banned
Regardless of the production cost they aren't going to price it higher than XSX.
Right now Microsoft can say (and not be lying) they are the cheapest and most powerful (in raw TF performance) next gen.
I don't think Sony wants to give them the satisfaction of having the most powerful device which is also cheaper than Sony's device.
Right now Microsoft can say (and not be lying) they are the cheapest and most powerful (in raw TF performance) next gen.
I don't think Sony wants to give them the satisfaction of having the most powerful device which is also cheaper than Sony's device.
ethomaz
Banned
Who is that?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
There's literally no evidence whatsoever that PS5 should be more expensive.
In fact, it should be at least $50 less expensive due to APU Size, Memory costs, volume of manufacturing, less expensive cooling, etc. The digital only version should be $70-80 less expensive.
So yeah, $399 is still on the table IMHO
Remember that the difference in APU size for Series S vs. PS5 vs Series X is approximately the same....it makes sense to me that PS5 would be smack dab in the middle of their costs....and I think everyone knows this and even Microsoft expected them to go for $399
In fact, it should be at least $50 less expensive due to APU Size, Memory costs, volume of manufacturing, less expensive cooling, etc. The digital only version should be $70-80 less expensive.
So yeah, $399 is still on the table IMHO
Remember that the difference in APU size for Series S vs. PS5 vs Series X is approximately the same....it makes sense to me that PS5 would be smack dab in the middle of their costs....and I think everyone knows this and even Microsoft expected them to go for $399
Im talking about Sony consoles.
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JerryinSoCal
Member
It lost a ton of money for Sony and it was their worst selling home console. It's not something Sony wants to repeat I'm sure but going just by console sales alone it did beat the 360 by a couple of million even though it was always more expensive and had 1 less year on the market but compared to other PlayStation consoles it wasn't up to Sony's typical performance.
genesisblock
Member
Only 3 days to find out if Dusk will be Dawn.
*seems myself out
*seems myself out
kuncol02
Banned
That's some new level of trolling and spreading FUD. We have reports how expensive is PS5 cooling. We saw devkit and how much it takes to cool it. We have reports that Sony struggle with overheating prototype. And after all that you are trying to push narrative that XBox cooling is more expensive? That's not even funny.
Justin9mm
Member
I'm predicting the PS5 with physical drive will be $699 AUD in Australia here. For perspective, the Series X is launching at $749 AUD which equates to a little more than $499 USD after conversion.
I have a feeling Sony will undercut Microsoft whatever the price. No way are they going to charge more.
I have a feeling Sony will undercut Microsoft whatever the price. No way are they going to charge more.
Barakov
Gold Member
Since I'm also inside the system, I can confirm PS5 will cost 549$, but Sony has yet to decide 'till the last minute, you know how this things works, so the price could be very different, it's not my fault, you have misinterpreted my words, why you put words in my mouth, I have never stated PS5 will cost 549$.
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TBiddy
Member
You're no longer The Insider, so I don't trust you.
pawel86ck
Banned
Comparable PCIe 4 SSD cost around $300 on PC. Samsung 980 evo will cost around $350-450.
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