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Elon Musk buys Twitter

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NickFire

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There are some amazing meltdowns happening over this. My non-scientific estimate has 95% upset they might see tweets they disagree with, and 5% upset because they convinced themselves Musk wants to ban left-leaning politicians and anyone critical of Tesla.

And the top guy (for a few more weeks anyway) seems really averse to letting people edit posts. God forbid his cult let people move past tweets they blasted out as 14 year olds. Once tarnished always tarnished I guess.
 
Nester99

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DragoonKain said:
Twitter is a problem. Character limits are a poor way to communicate. Not saying it would be better without character limits, it serves a purpose. But it was inevitably doomed to be toxic as long as it had limits.
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You can make a second tweet and double your characters, then do it again! Length is not an issue at all.
 
Pejo

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NickFire said:


Same guy in that pic just welcomed him to the board right? :messenger_tears_of_joy:
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The New Adventures Of Gilligan Money GIF by Warner Archive
 
zeorhymer

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I was thinking about this last night. Elon may have simultaneously destroyed alternative Twitters and saved the company. If he actually course corrects the company, many many people will go back to it and put all of the other companies into backup mode. As a result, the stock will rise he will be able to cash out.
 
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Vicetrailia

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Wait so the dude BUYS his way onto the board, and then he wants to change things harping about free speech, when really twitter chooses to remove platforms from the dreg opinions of society. It sounds like he just wants his politically favorable opinions to be okay, and not actual free speech.

That is corrupt as shit.
 
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NickFire

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Vicetrailia said:
Wait so the dude BUYS his way onto the board, and then he wants to change things harping about free speech, when really twitter chooses to remove platforms from the dreg opinions of society. It sounds like he just wants his politically favorable opinions to be okay, and not actual free speech.

That is corrupt as shit.
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Sure comrade. That makes total sense. Viva la resistance!
 
sircaw

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Serious question here, is less than 10% enough oomph to actually change certain forms of censorship.

Will there be an actual tangible difference?
 
NickFire

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///PATRIOT said:
I see a lot of REEEEEtera and the woke shite in Twitter hurting. They're upset, of the thought of losing control over others and their brigade platform.
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Yes sir, the fascists are showing their asses today. My favorites are the ones that refer to him as an oligarch because of this purchase. If I had a dollar for every time that crowd attributes Russia to political opponents, while calling for their political favorites to censor their political opponents, I'd be very rich.
 
NickFire

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sircaw said:
Serious question here, is less than 10% enough oomph to actually change certain forms of censorship.

Will there be an actual tangible difference?
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It very well might be. There's a good chance he has the founder's support, and he is on record being unhappy with what has become of the platform. There's also a good chance he has friends who hold lots of votes / proxies and made a plan with them before jumping in. Add in his 80 million followers, and the business rational for why it makes sense to cast a wider net, and boom, change is possible. Not guaranteed, but very good chance.
 
sircaw

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NickFire said:
It very well might be. There's a good chance he has the founder's support, and he is on record being unhappy with what has become of the platform. There's also a good chance he has friends who hold lots of votes / proxies and made a plan with them before jumping in. Add in his 80 million followers, and the business rational for why it makes sense to cast a wider net, and boom, change is possible. Not guaranteed, but very good chance.
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Fingers crossed your right. 👍
 
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WoJ

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sircaw said:
Serious question here, is less than 10% enough oomph to actually change certain forms of censorship.

Will there be an actual tangible difference?
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It's all about influence. He doesn't just own just under 10% of the company. He is single largest shareholder. That alone makes him incredibly influential to management. I work in a totally different industry, but big time shareholders at my firm who have a seat on the board have influenced who gets hired/fired from a senior management level. I'd suspect, if nothing else, existing management doesn't want Musk trying to convince other board members and the public that he thinks the CEO, CFO, etc need to be replaced.

With the news coming out today that part of the agreement that gives him a seat on the board for two years is that he can't buy more than 14% of the company that tells me there may have been some concern he would have gone for a hostile takeover, and instead existing leadership said "Here is some power and influence, please don't enact a hostile takeover."

I don't think Elon Musk is going to single handedly going to change Twitter, but I have no doubt he will be very influential in what the company does the next few years.
 
DragoonKain

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Nester99 said:
You can make a second tweet and double your characters, then do it again! Length is not an issue at all.
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Multiple people have totally misunderstood what I meant by that post. People are taking it as me meaning the user experience. I’m not talking about the user experience. I’m saying a platform structured around character limits leads to toxicity because it’s not a way to communicate or understand someone else. Text in general is a poor way to communicate, so you’re going to get toxicity on all social media platforms, but the harder it is to communicate, the worse discourse always gets.

In terms of the user experience in and of itself it’s fine. But it’s going to lead to a toxic platform where everyone is hostile to one another. You can’t have honest discourse on a platform like that. There’s a reason Twitter is far and away the most toxic platform full of the most anger and division of all of the major social media platforms.

And that isn’t me saying Twitter would be better if there were no character limits either. It’s fine the way it is, but you’re going to get a hostile place with people at each other’s throats. It is what it is.
 
SafeOrAlone

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This is promising.

With Twitter, you can't even say "lunatics were running the asylum", because way too many people are, sadly, depending on it for information. It was more like "lunatics are burning down the town hall."
 
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Moneal

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NickFire said:


The image is cropped. The last two words are "free speech." How quickly the blue check marks change their tune on what free speech is when someone they dislike has a say in moderation.
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I ask for freedom when you are in power because it conforms with your beliefs. I remove your freedoms when I am in power because it conforms with my beliefs. Or something like that.
 
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Its insane to me that right leaning people with controversial views are wiped off the platform but Russian state/government affiliated accounts and other Pro Russian bots are allowed to spread misleading propaganda and misinformation in regards to War crimes and genocide. Like what the fuck twitter?
 
Rikku-X

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///PATRIOT said:
I see a lot of REEEEEtera and the woke shite in Twitter hurting. They're upset, of the thought of losing control over others and their brigade platform.
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"If people have the will, you can kill Twitter within a few months. A mass exodus in the platform will quickly kill it. It doesn't even require you to do anything."
 
PrimetimeKnight

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Rikku-X said:
"If people have the will, you can kill Twitter within a few months. A mass exodus in the platform will quickly kill it. It doesn't even require you to do anything."
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I would gladly participate if I could but you cannot leave something you never registered for. Twitter is a cesspool, burn it to the ground.

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Mistake

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TwinB242 said:
Its insane to me that right leaning people with controversial views are wiped off the platform but Russian state/government affiliated accounts and other Pro Russian bots are allowed to spread misleading propaganda and misinformation in regards to War crimes and genocide. Like what the fuck twitter?
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CCP officials are on it too
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Guess who’s coming back. The meltdowns will make Chernobyl look like a gentle fart in comparison.
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He’s currently suing Twitter to get his account back. Musk will convince them to lift the ban to avoid court.
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Musk would only do it for the lols, so who knows. If it makes money, it’s possible
 
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AnotherDayAnotherDollar

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I can. I can also imagine the US government going after Musk if he did this.
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On what grounds?

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He has a lot of work to do though. It’s not just the banning of people it’s the shadow banning of wrongthink as well. There’s a social media platform in beta right now with a fraction of the users Twitter has and they’ve been able to show the Twitter suppression in action where the same post is made on both platforms and Twitter suppressed it so it got no engagement where on the beta platform it got a ton, again with a tiny fraction of the users that Twitter has.
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He’s going to need to rebuild it from the ground up to tear out all of the authoritative controls they’ve implemented over the last six years. The entire platform is built on the idea of silencing those who disagree with the danger hair children who run it out of San Francisco.
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I think he'll push to make the algorithm open source. He was talking about it before buying the 9.2% equity. He's probably the only person on the board who can actually understand the code too.
 
Pejo

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Hopefully this is the beginning of the pendulum swinging the other way so I can go back to not giving a fuck about which gender people are, where they want to stick their private parts, and their thoughts on Harry Potter - without catching an earful about it.
 
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