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Enjoy cheap console prices and PC components while it lasts, up to %100 tariffs on TSMC

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Eh, thought 'murica would side/help Taiwan? This will make it harder for them and also opens up the perfect collapse opportunity for China to show up as the benefactor or straight up bully them to submission
The US is running a 50 billion trade deficit with Taiwan. Trump doesn't like those, since in his eyes that means Taiwan is winning and America is losing. Whether or not Taiwan is an ally doesn't really factor into it for him.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
Hot take: The smart ones saw it coming and picked up a 4000 series or PS5 Pro recently.
I was gonna wait, but panic bought 9800x3d RAM and a motherboard the day after Trump won because of potential tariffs. I think my 4090 will hold out and maybe this will all be cleared up by time to 60 series comes out

But then....NVIDIA.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
He just had one of the greatest 1st weeks for a president ever.
Cracking Up Lol GIF
 

Thaimasker

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He just had one of the greatest 1st weeks for a president ever. Made one country bend the knee by using tariffs all because they didn't want to accept their criminals back.

And nothing went up last time he was in office. However, everything went up during the previous administration.
Colombia already accepts hundreds of planes of immigrants every year and the president offered to bring these criminals back on his own plane before Trump mentioned tariffs.

Literally the only difference from before is that they'll be on military planes, which costs millions more in tax $. Greatest week ever lol.

This Taiwan situation will probably amount to a similar nothing burger deal, but MAGA will celebrate, as they know nothing about Colombia, they know even less about Taiwan.
 
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Wolzard

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Have any of the US built plants made any chips yet? It's been forever since they broke ground.

Apple will produce A16 and AMD will produce the Zen5 on Arizona TSMC.

 

MikeM

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He just had one of the greatest 1st weeks for a president ever. Made one country bend the knee by using tariffs all because they didn't want to accept their criminals back.

And nothing went up last time he was in office. However, everything went up during the previous administration.

“In 2018, then-President Donald Trump put new tariffs on a variety of Chinese-made goods, including baseball caps, luggage and shoes – and Americans have been paying the price ever since.

For example, a suitcase that was $100 before Trump imposed the tariffs now goes for about $160, and a carry-on that was $425 is now $700, said Tiffany Zarfas Williams, who owns the Luggage Shop of Lubbock in Texas“

That took two seconds to google search.
 
He just had one of the greatest 1st weeks for a president ever. Made one country bend the knee by using tariffs all because they didn't want to accept their criminals back.

And nothing went up last time he was in office. However, everything went up during the previous administration.
You'd have to be borderline insane to believe that..... Anyway, the dude is on a speedrun to ruin the US economy. Thankfully, none of this is my problem.
 

Pejo

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Only 2 pages and you can already see why politics talk is prohibited on GAF.

I don't disagree with the method, but the timing is bad. We should have ramped up production in the US BEFORE imposing these tariffs. This is just punishing consumers at this point instead of boosting US manufacturing and jobs.
 
Stop watching MSNBC ffs.
Lol, Americans thinking the world centers around them..... We don't get your rubbish news stations over here. Some of us are just capable of critical thinking. Trade wars historically are almost never good. You're not special and the outcome this time will not be different. The only thing all this rukus is doing is causing me and other investors to pull our money out of us markets. No one wants to invest in an unstable country where a toddler makes up shit as he goes.
 

spons

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Well that's what people there voted for: tariffs up the rectum. Good on Trump to act on that.
 

64gigabyteram

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Only 2 pages and you can already see why politics talk is prohibited on GAF.

I don't disagree with the method, but the timing is bad. We should have ramped up production in the US BEFORE imposing these tariffs. This is just punishing consumers at this point instead of boosting US manufacturing and jobs.
we shouldnt impose tariffs at all. let the consumers choose between chinese manufactured goods and US manufactured goods. give a level playing field
 

EN250

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The US is running a 50 billion trade deficit with Taiwan. Trump doesn't like those, since in his eyes that means Taiwan is winning and America is losing. Whether or not Taiwan is an ally doesn't really factor into it for him.
So, what will happen when Taiwan position is weakened and makes everything easier for China to take over? they're not shy about wanting to annex Taiwan by any means necessary, that "fusion" will make China stronger than ever

I live in a third world country that bends over backwards for China, because they have no problems getting dirty and shake hands with the most corrupt of the world, an even more powerful China will be hell everyone else, not just USA

It's Joever, we're getting commie-dified, Xi Jinpoo won
 
Only 2 pages and you can already see why politics talk is prohibited on GAF.

I don't disagree with the method, but the timing is bad. We should have ramped up production in the US BEFORE imposing these tariffs. This is just punishing consumers at this point instead of boosting US manufacturing and jobs.
That would be the logical thing to do. This way you could mitigate some of the pain. All this is going to do is kill the stock market.
 
Lol, Americans thinking the world centers around them..... We don't get your rubbish news stations over here. Some of us are just capable of critical thinking. Trade wars historically are almost never good. You're not special and the outcome this time will not be different. The only thing all this rukus is doing is causing me and other investors to pull our money out of us markets. No one wants to invest in an unstable country where a toddler makes up shit as he goes.
donald trump laughing GIF
 

Pejo

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we shouldnt impose tariffs at all. let the consumers choose between chinese manufactured goods and US manufactured goods. give a level playing field
A nice idea, but there is no level playing field to begin with in this game. US workers will not work for the pay and conditions that Taiwan will, and employees are always the #1 cost in any business. Imposing the tariffs will incentivize manufacturers to not use the cheapest labor which actually has an equalizing effect. Just my 2c though, maybe somebody that studies this stuff can prove me wrong.
 
The question always is how much profit are companies like Nvidia making. I am in two minds about tariffs. Typically when jobs are moved abroad, the goods don't actually get cheaper. I remember when a local clothing brand moved their production to Bangladesh but the shoes still cost the same. All these designer brands are made in Bangladesh but they still cost $100s. If GPUs were made in the US and not Taiwan, the price may actually be the same because a 5090 can't be $5000. They would just make less profit. The fact that it makes things cheaper is not actually ever looked into. It would only be the case if they passed the savings into the consumer and why would they.
 
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