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Steam OS is leagues ahead in optimization features for handhelds man, are you kidding me right now? Do you have a steam deck? Have you ever used one?
I have one with Windows on dualboot. You can have almost all if not all those options on Windows too on Deck. Looks like you never touched Windows on Steam Deck.
dude, i told you I have both the steam deck AND a windows handheld... you clearly never touched the steam deck and assumed you know what you're talking about
The only feature you listed that's Steam Deck exclusive are the game profiles that have power/refresh rate stuff. And even then that's just something you use MSIA/RTSS for. The other stuff is something that's in the Steam client already no matter what OS you use.
Was about to say something like, without a VRR screen its not an upgrade. Surely Ally competitors realise that's the killer feature by now? Right?
I think it was within 5% quicker, but a bit more efficient overall. Not by much though. All in all it should be close enough. Big question is going to be price and battery sizes.
dude, i told you I have both the steam deck AND a windows handheld... you clearly never touched the steam deck and assumed you know what you're talking about
The argument is about Steam itself creating a proper user interface for a handheld in comparison with windows. No one is arguing that you can't jump through all kinds of hoops and customize things. If you want to open regedit on a handheld and edit hex files with your on-screen keyboard that's just Stockholm syndrome over using windows
It's what keeps the rog ally ahead of the pack for me. I don't understand why other companies haven't offered it. Its a must for these handheld imo
People are too hung up on OLED so that's what most brands are chasing. The only other one that has VRR is the GPD Win Mini and that's only because it's actually using the same screen as the Ally.
yeah, it is harder than using the steam os interface, windows is built to use keyboard and mouse. It's pretty much a the consensus among users. Also windows itself has a ton of bloat, heavier on system resources to run (especially RAM). The advantages are that it allows certain games with anticheat to run, so I pretty much gave that one for free on my first post, but it's not "bazilion" games as you stated.
"Duh. I have a Steam Deck and a Windows handheld, but I never used Windows on my Steam Deck and navigate on Windows with trackpad + touch screen is hard. Duh."
A lot of games with anti cheat don’t work for example.
Yeah, I don't deny that the basic interface of the Deck is easier to use but when switching to desktop mod to fiddle with stuff like mods, I'll take Windows any day. Linux' directory confuses the hell out of my monkey brain.The argument is about Steam itself creating a proper user interface for a handheld in comparison with windows. No one is arguing that you can't jump through all kinds of hoops and customize things. If you want to open regedit on a handheld and edit hex files with your on-screen keyboard that's just Stockholm syndrome over using windows
No argument there, I'm not a huge fan of linux desktop myself. Of course had to learn the basics to install emudeck and so on, but universally the ease of use for the form factor of a handheld, Steam OS has no competition. Hopefully MS does something to address this in the future, it's really not ok to have to use default desktop windows on such a device.
NOT harder on Deck as I CAN use the trackpad and the touch screen.
nevermind, you clearly have a horse in the race, so no point discussing... no one said it's not possible to use fucking windows, only that it's a worse experience on a handheld from a UI standpoint.
Make Steam boot on Big Picture mode with Windows if you still think that. How is that hard to understand???
fuck's sake... not all steam os features are present in big picture... drivers for windows are lacking in comparison with steam os, more bloat on windows, consumes more power, consumes more resources...
So navigating the UI is not the problem anymore. Good.
Not all windows handhelds have touchpads you know (the vast majority don't)? So yeah, it really is a problem as well when compared with steam os, just less so on the deck specifically.
So the problem is not Windows but lack of trackpads. Good.
Amazing how you ignore the points that are inconvenient... (bloat, less drivers support, more resources consumed, lack of features...)
It’s newer than the Zen2 in PS5 and people will still be buying the PS5 in the next 5 years
SteamOS has the potential to become the greatest thing in gaming. Windows needs to be fixed or ditched.
He always does this. I wouldn't bother arguing with him.
I have bazzite w/ steam deck mode on my Go and it’s fantastic
Lol. The original argument was about navigating the UI on Windows. He (and now you) is just changing goal posts. -_-'
You will have Asus and Lenovo with AMD chipsets and MSI with Intel. Maybe Acer or someone else will show up as well (Razer seems likely at some point).
ASUS customer service is non-existent as evidenced by ROG Ally. Maybe Lenovo will do better. I could trust Razer as well.
They all suck. Razer generally has pretty bad support on laptop side. MSI is kind of meh.
Oh I’ve never moved the goalposts of you being an idiot I can assure you that.
I think the companies are overestimating amount of people that will buy a $900+ handheld right now. A lot of folks who might have already bought Lenovo or Asus handhelds.
And that stuff is better in Steam Client than Windows. Steam OS is nearly mandatory for these devices and with how fast they are adding support in 5 years, Windows won't even be needed for gaming on PC.
