nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
For every protest theyll likely have to gather evidence to support the fact that he didnt use his knowledge of other teams IP. Its going to be a massive headache, for sure.
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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT2| A Dutch Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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For every protest theyll likely have to gather evidence to support the fact that he didnt use his knowledge of other teams IP. Its going to be a massive headache, for sure.
OH, racism. Ha.
I don't think they disliked each other, I think they were prepared for the competition between each other and it ate into their interactions.
DHC-Shannow
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https://youtu.be/rfKN_TwfhnY
Interesting to see the separate combustion chamber idea is actually built into the spark plug!
For those who haven't seen this, one of the early secrets of Mercs engine success in this latest era was that they had a separate chamber with a rich fuel mix in that caused a more efficient burn of the fuel in the cylinder, allowing them to run leaner mixtures & save fuel as well as providing more power. Looks like the spark plug actually takes on this role now.
Interesting to see the separate combustion chamber idea is actually built into the spark plug!
For those who haven't seen this, one of the early secrets of Mercs engine success in this latest era was that they had a separate chamber with a rich fuel mix in that caused a more efficient burn of the fuel in the cylinder, allowing them to run leaner mixtures & save fuel as well as providing more power. Looks like the spark plug actually takes on this role now.
Fox Mulder
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They can make leaps just by copying behind the scenes stuff like how Mercedes or Redbull configure their wind tunnel tests. They'll know 2018 downforce details of other cars and power levels of every other engine to line their current development up to.
Theyre not going to show up with a redbull or Mercedes clone.
FrankCanada97
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Looks like Robert Wickens going to IndyCar next year is all but inevitable.
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/145008-hinchcliffe-wickens-pairing-likely-at-spm-in-2018
Wickens is another former Red Bull junior. If history had gone another way, I'd be rooting for Wickens in F1 instead of Stroll.
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/145008-hinchcliffe-wickens-pairing-likely-at-spm-in-2018
Wickens is another former Red Bull junior. If history had gone another way, I'd be rooting for Wickens in F1 instead of Stroll.
I liked him in DTM but he has been far too inconsistent to be a top driver.
Things would perhaps reach a melting point if they were to show up with a specific key advantage in the vain of the double-diffuser i.e. one that could not easily be replicated without a drastic change to the design of a car, and that was to be found on only one other car. But such a development is probably unlikely.
Given the current situation I wouldn't be surprised if they show up with a car that looks like a mashup between a ferrari and a redbull yet even that is unlikely since, according to most experts, the development of current cars are dictated primarily by the design of the floor and diffuser followed by their monocoque and everything else is then developed around those elements. So it would most likely end up looking like either one or the other in such a situation.
You missed the point. There was no racism, just an assumption of racism because people did not like Lewis Hamilton.
I reckon everyone can acknowledge Lewis has a very divisive personality, and he often has a bit of an off-putting personality that makes it easy to dislike him, especially for more casual followers of the sport that don't often see the other, more aproachable, side of Lewis.
Racists?
brotkasten
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This would be the wrong conclusion, definitely. It is a problem in this sport, much like any other. It's not meant to make fun of racism either. It's a stupid inside joke from the thread/community and we should leave it at that.
Psychotext
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I think if anything, assuming people dislike Hamilton solely due to his skin colour makes light of actual racism.
But yes, it's probably best left alone.
But yes, it's probably best left alone.
I agree, and thats because i feel like its a discussion that can't be had because others are reaching for narratives that dismiss the possibility of racism itself.
In a sport that favors fair skinned Europeans, there is definitely going to be undertones of racism that plays into many things that go on.
To suggest that there isn't is just avoiding the elephant that is likely in the room, and black people are really sick of having to tell people this when it's right in front of people's faces.
Psychotext
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Heading out to the US in the morning. Must admit that I'm not particularly interested in the race because of the championship situation, but if it rains (currently forecast), then it could be an interesting one at least.
I wouldn't bet on there being rain on the forecast. Results of the race should be pretty cut and dry considering the history and nature of this track (slinging corners and long straights.)
Psychotext
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I'm there whatever happens, so it's tough shit really... but yeah, would prefer a wet race for the fun of it.
brotkasten
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I got depressed again when I saw that it's race weekend again and all the articles coming up on my Twitter feed. Fuuuck.
theignoramus
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His personality isnt any fucking different than other winning drivers. But his faults and missteps seem to be pounced on with a ferocity I dont see with other drivers.
And his racing on track is clean. People should get the fuck over themselves. Crying about a radio transmission. Crying about who wears what. Crying about one comment in a short interview. Crying about what Lewis did in his off time. I dont know whose more of a fucking diva, Lewis Hamilton or his anti-fan club.
Take a deep breath.
I'm sure Vettel will turn it all around, brotkasten, have some faith.
It's not like they have a choice to maintain the existing one. Were it not for the power advantage and the developmental issues and reliability of other teams they may have been looking at 2nd or even 3rd place in the constructors this season.
As a Mercedes supporter I won't accept anything less than domination
Which is why I need to mentally prepare myself for the car potentially being rubbish next season. Optimism, hope and faith are the leading causes of disappointment and depression after all
Well, we all know that 'Diva' got pretty screwed with suspension ban and team did an amazing job to transforming it into current state.
If they decided to ditch this long wheelbase, low rake concept they have already done that several months ago. Or they will try to do something else and took Williams route down (just kidding).
Mohonky
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That happened in Singapore.
If he turns things round again, he needs to at least hit Hamilton!
The next time Vettel loses his shit will probably play out a bit like this, I imagine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnvqjBA9JpE
I think it's interesting that he is such a clean driver. He is really quick, but rarely gets into the scrapes that other drivers have had (although I recall one season where him and Massa went at it all the time).
In comparison to Vettel, it's like the difference between Ricciardo and Crashtappen.
JadedWriter
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With 2011 I think there's enough hindsight evidence that just plainly shows that Massa cannot race wheel to wheel.
Fistfight on track between Vettel and Hamilton would be a sight to behold. Steering wheels would fly around.
Minus a cop with tazer
Trying to swap to a high rake car mid season was never going to happen. It changes so much on the car that it is only something they can do at the start of a new project. With the trick suspension getting thrown out they were left with a fairly good car and a beast of a PU. Little doubt they'll turn up next year with a high take setup. Will be cool to see how they compete against Ferrari and Redbull who are already there and have lots of data.
You're still insisting on that, aren't you. That's not the case at all. All that happened because Massa is a RACIST.
JadedWriter
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Wax Free Vanilla
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Hasegawa has been demoted, he's now in charge of the Milton Keynes factory as of Sept 1st.
brotkasten
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If only to rein in Vettel a little.
JadedWriter
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I just looked at that video and damn...Hamilton was a knob on some of those. Now India on the other hand looked like Massa's fault...also it left out the second Monaco incident where Hamilton passed Massa in the tunnel and Massa got caught up on the marbles and left the tunnel lit up in a hail of sparks.
I'm quite sure DD is joking with this.
FrankCanada97
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Strange happenings in F2, apparently Lawrence Stroll vetoed an agreement to sign Lando Norris at Prema. Norris in the Prema car would have certainly had the F2 championship locked. Now he is looking to sign with ART. There have been rumours that Sean Gelael is going to be one of the Prema drivers. This is mystifying because Prema's budget is not something that would warrant taking on a paydriver, especially one as bad as Gelael.
Yagami_Sama
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Hasegawa has been demoted, he's now in charge of the Milton Keynes factory as of Sept 1st.
Heh. Now they might manage to improve their engine.
FrankCanada97
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It's weird, as a part owner of Prema wouldn't Stroll Sr. want to have the best drivers in his team? Money is no object for Prema so why take on Gelael over Norris?
A cynic would say that Stroll Sr. is deliberately trying to sabotage Norris' career in order to delay his entry into F1 where Norris might show up Lance Stroll. But if that were so, why didn't he veto Charles Leclerc's signing with Prema this year?
I don't see what motives Stroll Sr. could possibly have. Maybe Gelael is blackmailing the Strolls? (Don't take this last suggestion seriously.)
A cynic would say that Stroll Sr. is deliberately trying to sabotage Norris' career in order to delay his entry into F1 where Norris might show up Lance Stroll. But if that were so, why didn't he veto Charles Leclerc's signing with Prema this year?
I don't see what motives Stroll Sr. could possibly have. Maybe Gelael is blackmailing the Strolls? (Don't take this last suggestion seriously.)
xrnzaaas
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That dickhead is not busy sabotaging Kubica's (potential) comeback? Seems like a more urgent matter to attend to.
brotkasten
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I don't see how the return of a has-been is more important than new and up-and-coming talent.