Blurry, out of focus, and compression?
THIS IS COMPRESSION
Now look at this image.
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Forza 3 vs Gran Turismo 5 Comparison Thread of John, Chapter 11, Verse 35
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THIS IS COMPRESSION
Now look at this image.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Man, T10 utterly failed with shadows in FM4 on some tracks.
Hockenheim dawn has amazing light. Beautiful orange glow from the morning sun. It really does look amazing. Right up until you look at the shadows cast by the cars but mostly by the track. They are completely wrong. They look like they are cast by a midday sun. Even when the sun is completely hidden behind the trees, grandstands or pit complex you are still in full light. Really takes away the immersion :'(
Hockenheim dawn has amazing light. Beautiful orange glow from the morning sun. It really does look amazing. Right up until you look at the shadows cast by the cars but mostly by the track. They are completely wrong. They look like they are cast by a midday sun. Even when the sun is completely hidden behind the trees, grandstands or pit complex you are still in full light. Really takes away the immersion :'(
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I was making a point that the dashboard looks like that because the camera is not focused. So why did you reply to me if you had no intention to talk about the point I made in that post?
Please read the posts I quoted before jumping in. It saves everyone a lot of time.
??? There are different levels of compression lol.
I think the decision to bake in shadows killed the immersion.
Metalmurphy
Member
You can't possibly be this thick. You posted a very badly compressed shot. Then I post a very badly compressed shot to show those don't reflect how the games look. It's not that hard to understand. The "true story" didn't give it away that I was joking?...
If it served its purpose, then it's not idiotic, only you are when you try to make a big deal out of it.
Because it does.
That's a problem in a lot of games and a huge pet peeve of mine. :/
Is this focused enough for you?
You can't blame the look of the interior textures on compression or focus.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Is that the Kimster's face?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
That cockpit looks much better than the one in the compressed image so you have just proved my point. Also the camera in the second pic seems like its focused on the car not the dashboard.
Lol the third pic is poorly focused too.
Looks more like the normal mapping isn't popping in.
This is a serious question...
Are you mentally challenged?
*edited for political correctness...
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
So it doesn't swap models it just looks that bad? lol, so much for 100k poly models. More like 15k to 20k
lol, it doesn't look any better, it's just a different angle.
Excuses keep on coming.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137684
Read the focusing section.
Your right. I guess the compression really did make it look that much worse.
I can't fire up GT5 now but if you can take a photo of the lambo's interior with the camera focused at the cockpit, the interior will look much better.
Obviously it doesn't add extra poly's when you focus. Again I am not disputing it has low poly's but why the cockpit looks so bad in that horribly compressed pic.
Metalmurphy
Member
Is that the Kimster's face?
You're cheating now.
His "captures" don't really do anything. This isn't a game feature that can improve the render or something like that.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
my second favorite car in GT5
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
my second favorite car in GT5
Amazing car to drive. Acceleration from 0-60 is insane and it handles well in the corners.
I find it amazing that there are literally thousands of posts in this thread forensically deconstructing and analysing static images from two games built entirely around the concept of motion.
Whether I'm playing GT5 or FM4 the very last thing I give one solitary fuck about is the poly count on an AI car's dashboard at 170mph. I just don't notice shit like that when I'm thoroughly absorbed in a tense and exciting race. And the racing is why I turned up in the first place.
Whether I'm playing GT5 or FM4 the very last thing I give one solitary fuck about is the poly count on an AI car's dashboard at 170mph. I just don't notice shit like that when I'm thoroughly absorbed in a tense and exciting race. And the racing is why I turned up in the first place.
Mr Nightman
Banned
same here, I mean both games look fucking amazing for the hardware they're being run on imo. I just race to have exciting fun
eso76
Member
Yep. Tracks with alternate time of day in Fm4 use the same shadows for midday and dusk/dawn. They were prebaked once and they only baked the correct shadows for midday..
Cars' shadows are correct though.
Hopefully, next FM uses global dynamic illumination like Horizon, minus the yellow filter
Anyway, this thread had become a nice read and sight a dozen pages ago, but it has turned to shit again...
What is this shit?
Dude...
Actually follow the conversations back he is either that much of a fanboy or he is mentally challenged in some way.
I'm not much for political correctness.. if you'd rather mentally challenged.
I'd rather people attack a post not the poster but that's just me I suppose.
I'm not attacking him I'm serious.. I don't understand the conclusions he is coming to with his posts.
I'm legitimately asking... That was not a rhetorical question.
I'm not trying to insult or attack him on any level but I seriously can't understand how he is the only one reaching the conclusions he is reaching. This above comment is just mind boggling it's like he is looking at pictures completely different from everyone else or what I uploaded.
I don't understand why you would bring up compression as if it would diminish the bigger issue that was brought up specifically with that pic (low-poly). Wouldn't go as far as labelling you "mentally-challenged", but your response does come across as rather...odd.
But that is only a "preview" view in the "Race Photo" (in-game replay) mode.
Majority of cars in that "preview" mode are not high-poly LOD.
I really do not see the point of posting that specific photo.
Doesn't negate his unusual response though. In fact yours would have been more apt, and wouldn't have caused all that unnecessary back and forth between him and a couple other posters.
The point is to make GT5 look as bad as possible. Same reason why that low-res standard car is posted all the time (even though it's been patched).
Funny thing: I looked at page 100 of this thread, from 2010. Screens and arguments are exactly the same, but the people posting them aren't the same.
Found this gem
The point is to make GT5 look as bad as possible. Same reason why that low-res standard car is posted all the time (even though it's been patched).
Funny thing: I looked at page 100 of this thread, from 2010. Screens and arguments are exactly the same, but the people posting them aren't the same.
Found this gem
Is that Photoshopped?
Careful now...sarcasm usually doesn't translate well over the internet.
That GT5 picture killed my brain...
Does anyone know where the other assets in the picture are from?
I'm sorry if I'm being a little harsh or hard headed I've been awake for about 48 hours.
Haha wow.
Car looks like something from a Wii game.
You're right it's from a game called Cruis’n apparently on the Wii.
Better picture: http://www.mywiinews.com/wp-content/uploads/cruisn1.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VgQhoq5CxU
This game is awesome lol "NITROUS".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSt6U37wl1k
350z with a giant blower. xD
Let's include it in the vs thread.
Waldo Lydecker
Member
Samuel L Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIoumDCBcuY
Is he asking about Bishop or Samuel? lol
Check out the first post in this thread
I'm sure the guys behind Cruis'n had all the tyre data from Pirelli too
Don't think so I didn't see 100 Pirelli signs on every track in the game, seriously they're everywhere in Forza 4.
Waldo Lydecker
Member
This is Samuel L. Jackson? Damnation, had no idea, never recognized him.
Ravensmash
Member
I hope the next iterations focus more on track diversity.
I think I prefer Forza's selection of real tracks - just seems a bit more varied overall but I want more.
I'd also like Turn 10 to implement a way for the player to create custom races against the AI. I have no idea why this isn't an option, but if I fancy a 40 lap race on Tsukuba then I should be able to do it!
I'd like online to become a bit more balanced also, because at present it feels like every race is just about who has the best tune. This is fine for those who are into that sort of thing, but for a player looking to jump in it's a real hurdle.
There is the cycled production hopper but that needs to be randomised a bit and it seems fairly empty compared to other modes.
I think I prefer Forza's selection of real tracks - just seems a bit more varied overall but I want more.
I'd also like Turn 10 to implement a way for the player to create custom races against the AI. I have no idea why this isn't an option, but if I fancy a 40 lap race on Tsukuba then I should be able to do it!
I'd like online to become a bit more balanced also, because at present it feels like every race is just about who has the best tune. This is fine for those who are into that sort of thing, but for a player looking to jump in it's a real hurdle.
There is the cycled production hopper but that needs to be randomised a bit and it seems fairly empty compared to other modes.
I can't agree with you more on the cycled production hopper, it's the best one and no one is ever using it and it's on a non-random car and track cycle.
You can create custom races with AI, create a private lobby and add AI and you can setup the options how you want and race against them, you can even specifically choose the cars they use.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Spahurst god damn it!
On another note, FM4 had a pretty good real world track expansion over FM3. Too bad we lost some good fantasy tracks along the way.
The first image is using a higher detail model, the other two images are not looking at the same area.
Risk Breaker
Member
If the new objective is to post the worst screens from the games, then Forza 3 is fucked for sure lol
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