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Gafia 3 [Mafia] | Welcome to Lynchwood Acres
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What? How would scum handicap themselves like that on purpose?
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
Goddamn thats twice this game. Will fix soon. Freaking mobile.
Sorry acorns.
Sorry acorns.
...though if scum had an investigative role, what about Crab? It is possible that scum wanted Crab dead. Crab was a tracker.
Ah, this will now become a thought about how much scum preplans things. If scum chose to push for Crab during night one, they would not have used a investigative or him. Why use a power on someone you wish to kill anyway? Thus scum could've learned about the pudding if they could've seen it with their possible investigative somehow.
a plenty of if here it seems like
I don't like that idea because in my experience scum do not plan to such lengths. It would be reasonable to expect Crab to get heat, yes. Expecting anything more seems unreasonable. In this case, using an investigative on Crab would make sense, he'd be checked to see how much a threat he is. And a tracker is a threat. And then the push for Crab would come. But then Blarg would not know of the pudding. Multiple investigatives ain't really a balanced option.
Conclusion? I dunno is confuse.
Ah, this will now become a thought about how much scum preplans things. If scum chose to push for Crab during night one, they would not have used a investigative or him. Why use a power on someone you wish to kill anyway? Thus scum could've learned about the pudding if they could've seen it with their possible investigative somehow.
a plenty of if here it seems like
I don't like that idea because in my experience scum do not plan to such lengths. It would be reasonable to expect Crab to get heat, yes. Expecting anything more seems unreasonable. In this case, using an investigative on Crab would make sense, he'd be checked to see how much a threat he is. And a tracker is a threat. And then the push for Crab would come. But then Blarg would not know of the pudding. Multiple investigatives ain't really a balanced option.
Conclusion? I dunno is confuse.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
Going by the post restriction theory. How bizarrely fortuitous is it that blarg got that.
Anyone else talking about pudding all day would get scrutinized to hell. But its buisness as usual for blarg.
Anyone else talking about pudding all day would get scrutinized to hell. But its buisness as usual for blarg.
Orrrr (random thought):
Kalor wasn't targeted for a nightlife, Blarg wasn't targeted by the scum post restricter. Could we have a village idiot? Kalor is between Sorian and Franconp in the player list, both likely NK targets if town. Blarg is between Vere and CCS. Not sure how you'd strategize a post restricting ability.
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Ok probably not.
So that if the post restricter eventually flips then all their earlier targets would be cleared?
Plus it gives them an excuse to contribute less for a day.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
acohrs is in the lead (once Stan fixes his typo), with TWE, Verelios, and CCS at 3.
Time to make a stand.
Time to make a stand.
One thing I need to get out here before I forget it:
Dragonz referred to Bananas. Don't know why you'd bring that up out of nowhere. I think swamped reacted to that. I'm surprised Stan, fep or Kawl didn't say anything yet.
In Gafia 2.5 there were Bananas. Scum gave them out, they had no clue what they would do and it turned out they make the receiver lynch immune. And thus a scum member was on the chopping block instead of an innocent townie, *ah* fun times for sure.
Dragonz referred to Bananas. Don't know why you'd bring that up out of nowhere. I think swamped reacted to that. I'm surprised Stan, fep or Kawl didn't say anything yet.
In Gafia 2.5 there were Bananas. Scum gave them out, they had no clue what they would do and it turned out they make the receiver lynch immune. And thus a scum member was on the chopping block instead of an innocent townie, *ah* fun times for sure.
Do you think Blarg voting Crab D1 alongside swamped makes her more or less likely to be scum?
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
Shit I forgot that that was also a Gafia game. I did think of the banana thing when wamd mentioned it. But I didnt really see why they would be connected. So I didnt linger onit.
If anyone starts feeling fruity tell us immediately.
If the person who is the posting restrictor wanted to stay under the radar then Blarg is the obvious target since he is always posting nonsense. For me that means it is a role that picks their target so nothing fortuitous about it.
It's almost certainly a breadcrumb of some sort. I have no further interest in it until WAMD claims something or otherwise refers to it.
That specific fact? I don't think it makes her any more or less likely to be scum. Scum would obviously like to lynch Crab, but there was obviously some town on his case as well.
However I did think it odd that swamped was on Blarg at the time of his flip. And as LP has pointed out Blarg voted swamped in both D1 and D2 (although now that I look closer I realise his D1 vote is just from his vote-cycle at day end).
Ok so Blarg got a letter and a posting restriction. That seems linked.
We also know *Splinter claimed to have a letter but hasn't revealed the contents iirc. So perhaps he can't mention the contents.
Also what are the chances the person who targeted Blarg also chose "pudding", it is very flavory which makes me think Ouro chose the specifics.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
alrighty, lets try again
vote: acohrs
vote: acohrs
Blarg received his message N1, the restriction must have come N2?
I already said, but my message was nothing unusual: a few reads and a way for the sender to identify themselves.
It seems he knew about the restriction since he posted about pudding on Day 2. Or Ouro put the restriction in later. Maybe I am reading too much into it and Blarg is just a magnet for shenanigans.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
alright, iv been pretty strongly scum reading both CCS and acorn for almost the whole game now. the immediate thread consuming shit posting comradeship. the disagreeable reads, the lame reasoning for said reads, and the continued frivolousness have all contributed to this feeling. and i cant think of anything done by either of them that has made me so much as doubt it.
before i was leaning stronger on CCS, i dont remember exactly why, but acorns recent reads list and every post that followed has put him well ahead.
especially tat "youll reget it when i flip town" kinda post he made. i dont think anything makes me scum read someone faster than that pathetic fear-mongering tactic.
what is annoying even more about all this is that it really feels like so many players here scum read them (or at least one of them) as well, but so little had been being done about it.
Really don't feel the acohrs lynch. I know people will put this down to our buddy-buddy relationship but I really don't feel like it's the right thing to do.
Since I'm town, and I'm hardly going to suicide regardless, would support either of TWE or Verelios. Would prefer Verelios but if there's more support for a TWE lynch don't mind going there.
Since I'm town, and I'm hardly going to suicide regardless, would support either of TWE or Verelios. Would prefer Verelios but if there's more support for a TWE lynch don't mind going there.
Time is short, what do we have about Blarg on D3?
He's being scumread by Lone_Prodigy, Sorian, Swamped and acohrs. Maybe scumread by Splinter and Kyan (2480/1)
Townread by FEP.
Swamped had her vote on Blarg after making her case. Sorian was probably the one mentioning his desire to lynch Blarg the most often.
He's being scumread by Lone_Prodigy, Sorian, Swamped and acohrs. Maybe scumread by Splinter and Kyan (2480/1)
Townread by FEP.
Swamped had her vote on Blarg after making her case. Sorian was probably the one mentioning his desire to lynch Blarg the most often.
About to go into a meeting that will last until day end. Leaving my vote as is, doesn't appear that there is any immediate super strong case made off of a connection to blarg will revisit during the night phase when I can read on the desk top. Think acohrs is our best shot at doubling up on scum today.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
acohrs (4)
flatearthpandas 2293
Kawl_USC 2483
Faddy 2511
StanleyPalmtree 2619
Verelios (3)
Kyanrute 2438
CCS 2532
*Splinter 2546
TheWorthyEdge (3)
Burbeting 2284
Lone_Prodigy 2286
franconp 2466
CCS (2)
StanleyPalmtree 2390 2589
nin1000 2548
Verelios 2551
Swamped (1)
Sorian 2266
*Splinter 2544 2546
*Splinter (1)
Gorlak 2426 2582
acohrs 2472
Faddy (1)
Gorlak 2582
Bronx-Man (0):acohrs 2250 2360
No active vote for Day 3: Bronx-Man, Swamped (has previously voted), TheWorthyEdge, WhereAreMahDragonz
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
acohrs (4)
flatearthpandas 2293
Kawl_USC 2483
Faddy 2511
StanleyPalmtree 2619
Verelios (3)
Kyanrute 2438
CCS 2532
*Splinter 2546
TheWorthyEdge (3)
Burbeting 2284
Lone_Prodigy 2286
franconp 2466
CCS (2)
nin1000 2548
Verelios 2551
Swamped (1)
Sorian 2266
*Splinter (1)
acohrs 2472
Faddy (1)
Gorlak 2582
Bronx-Man (0):
No active vote for Day 3: Bronx-Man, Swamped (has previously voted), TheWorthyEdge, WhereAreMahDragonz
Day 3 ends:
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10 votes for majority
She's the one investing the most time to make a case against Blarg (today at least). A scum partner wouldn't waste so much time on a case against a partner at this phase of the game, I think.
I read Swamped as town and her behaviour today strengthens my view.
I believe that of the two, CCS is a lot more telling if he flips
So Blarg was D1 and D2 on Crab. That's consistent, but also makes it more doubtable if he was trying to save some of his teammates with that vote in D2. During his vote Verelios wasn't as big of a lynch candidate as he ended up being that day.
This was his d2 vote on crab:
At that time it was the fourth vote for Crab, while multiple people (Me, Verelios, Swamped, CCS) had two votes each.
This was his d2 vote on crab:
At that time it was the fourth vote for Crab, while multiple people (Me, Verelios, Swamped, CCS) had two votes each.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Fuckin 'ell.
Drove all day yesterday and finally got some time to checkout what's going on here. Made it to AZ finally.
Look. You can vote me out, go for it, but you'll get 0 info out of me. No role shenanigans or nothing. No scum reads and no OOOOOOH maybe he's working with him, because I'm just town. Simple as that.
Now if you want to be senseful about things than vote for someone that you know could have some valuable information come out of their flip one way or the other. If I'm scum then yeah you could probably find put who my team is maybe (?) but if I flip Town you've got NOTHIN. And so you'll have nothing.
Find it odd that I'm not on Verelios' scum reads. Thanks but no thanks. Would really hate for you to be scum and then "why wasn't TWE on Verelios' scum reads???" discussions to arise.
Holy fuck. Just got the CNN Notifications: Blargonaut Mod-Killed
WHAT ZE FUQ?
Drove all day yesterday and finally got some time to checkout what's going on here. Made it to AZ finally.
Look. You can vote me out, go for it, but you'll get 0 info out of me. No role shenanigans or nothing. No scum reads and no OOOOOOH maybe he's working with him, because I'm just town. Simple as that.
Now if you want to be senseful about things than vote for someone that you know could have some valuable information come out of their flip one way or the other. If I'm scum then yeah you could probably find put who my team is maybe (?) but if I flip Town you've got NOTHIN. And so you'll have nothing.
Find it odd that I'm not on Verelios' scum reads. Thanks but no thanks. Would really hate for you to be scum and then "why wasn't TWE on Verelios' scum reads???" discussions to arise.
Holy fuck. Just got the CNN Notifications: Blargonaut Mod-Killed
WHAT ZE FUQ?
acohrs, verelios, twe..
TWE feels like a very easy vote to hide behind. Looking at the votes they don't even bother to justify Burb says "let's start here" (lynch coaster), LP would vote anyone, fran says he doesn't like his answers under pressure.
Fran can you point at these answers please? As of now TWE is a null to me and I'd rather vote someone I lean scum on.
Verelios is a null to me, he had this discussion with Kyan yesterday and apart from that I don't remember much.
I posted my read on acohrs earlier, he didn't exactly do anything afterwards to change my mind.
Vote: acohrs
TWE feels like a very easy vote to hide behind. Looking at the votes they don't even bother to justify Burb says "let's start here" (lynch coaster), LP would vote anyone, fran says he doesn't like his answers under pressure.
Fran can you point at these answers please? As of now TWE is a null to me and I'd rather vote someone I lean scum on.
Verelios is a null to me, he had this discussion with Kyan yesterday and apart from that I don't remember much.
I posted my read on acohrs earlier, he didn't exactly do anything afterwards to change my mind.
Vote: acohrs
Blarg was scum 
and the stuff about the posting restriction makes sense. Now I need to move my vote...
I'm quite certain Sorian is town now. He's been on Blarg's case since D2.
Thanks for the answers Stan. I'm still not really seeing scum in CBS or Acorn. It could be because I'm unfamiliar with either's play. But I won't be voting there today.
and the stuff about the posting restriction makes sense. Now I need to move my vote... I'm quite certain Sorian is town now. He's been on Blarg's case since D2.
Thanks for the answers Stan. I'm still not really seeing scum in CBS or Acorn. It could be because I'm unfamiliar with either's play. But I won't be voting there today.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
ya see? this shit right here is what i was talking about.
not nearly as bad as the previous example, this one actually has a tinge of logic to balance things out.
but still, its a real bad look.
I was considering changing my vote from TWE towards somewhere else, but...
This post reeks from strange desperation. "Don't lynch me! There won't be any data coming from me!". I mean, he could have pointed out that the votes on him have been rather weak (which they have been, mine as well), instead he responds with this...
I need to look at Acohrs, but him and CCS keeping up the buddy-buddy life is weird, especially since they do this so damn consistently in every game.
This post reeks from strange desperation. "Don't lynch me! There won't be any data coming from me!". I mean, he could have pointed out that the votes on him have been rather weak (which they have been, mine as well), instead he responds with this...
I need to look at Acohrs, but him and CCS keeping up the buddy-buddy life is weird, especially since they do this so damn consistently in every game.
Building on that I'd like to show you a list from LP:
This was made after LP's vote.
Care to explain why you vote a null read over scum reads?
To be fair, what I was finding scummy was the post restriction more than anything else, it was scaring Blarg into inaction apparently, I'll still take the pro read though.
As Splinter later says, Bronx dying does not stop him from healing you, you still act on the nights you die.
Sounds like your guy's fault -_- But for a serious answer, didn't I do this vote before I went to sleep? How is it my problem that you all went elsewhere while I wasn't here to aid in discussion?
Can you re-explain what you mean about the bolded? Re-reading it makes no sense to me at all.
Ouro put a post restricter in election mafia that was town aligned. There's no reason to discount it from any alignment.
The person who mentioned vig mentioned it because Blarg had a BP which is fair though we have slight hintings of a switcher so that is enough reason for a BP shared between multiple people as well.
I would assume it does but I couldn't find it in the usual wiki I look at, does poison get blocked by a BP shot?
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Can I get a vote count so I know the state of the game? Was writing this awhile cause I got distracted so there might be one already.
As Splinter later says, Bronx dying does not stop him from healing you, you still act on the nights you die.
Sounds like your guy's fault -_- But for a serious answer, didn't I do this vote before I went to sleep? How is it my problem that you all went elsewhere while I wasn't here to aid in discussion?
Can you re-explain what you mean about the bolded? Re-reading it makes no sense to me at all.
Ouro put a post restricter in election mafia that was town aligned. There's no reason to discount it from any alignment.
The person who mentioned vig mentioned it because Blarg had a BP which is fair though we have slight hintings of a switcher so that is enough reason for a BP shared between multiple people as well.
I would assume it does but I couldn't find it in the usual wiki I look at, does poison get blocked by a BP shot?
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Can I get a vote count so I know the state of the game? Was writing this awhile cause I got distracted so there might be one already.
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
acohrs (5)
flatearthpandas 2293
Kawl_USC 2483
Faddy 2511
StanleyPalmtree 2619
Gorlak
TheWorthyEdge (4)
Burbeting 2284
Lone_Prodigy 2286
franconp 2466
Swamped
Verelios (2)
Kyanrute 2438
CCS 2532
*Splinter 2546
CCS (2)
StanleyPalmtree 2390 2589
nin1000 2548
Verelios 2551
Swamped (1)
Sorian 2266
*Splinter 2544 2546
*Splinter (1)
Gorlak 2426 2582
acohrs 2472
flatearthpandas (1):
CCS
Faddy (0)
Gorlak 2582
Bronx-Man (0):
acohrs 2250 2360
No active vote for Day 3: Bronx-Man, TheWorthyEdge, WhereAreMahDragonz
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
acohrs (5)
flatearthpandas 2293
Kawl_USC 2483
Faddy 2511
StanleyPalmtree 2619
Gorlak
TheWorthyEdge (4)
Burbeting 2284
Lone_Prodigy 2286
franconp 2466
Swamped
Verelios (2)
Kyanrute 2438
*Splinter 2546
CCS (2)
nin1000 2548
Verelios 2551
Swamped (1)
Sorian 2266
*Splinter (1)
acohrs 2472
flatearthpandas (1):
CCS
Faddy (0)
Bronx-Man (0):
No active vote for Day 3: Bronx-Man, TheWorthyEdge, WhereAreMahDragonz
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Telling you that the votes on me are weak won't help town.
Saying that you literally won't get anything out of voting me off helps town.
I'm looking but I'm going to be voting on Burb, or Verelios. If Verelios goes down and is scum Burb is scum too imo. The way the voting went down doesn't sit well with me looking back on it.
Verelios and Burb vote for Kalor d1 flips town.
Burb voted for Verelios because he trusts Crab more. (Even though he flips town, doesnt help my theory BUT) This reads to me as I know Crab is gonna die but we gotta separate from one another.
VOTE: Verelios
Easy vote to hide behind...blah blah blah. First scum read I feel could actually be something. Fuq.
Still don't feel very good about the whole poison situation though...
Saying that you literally won't get anything out of voting me off helps town.
I'm looking but I'm going to be voting on Burb, or Verelios. If Verelios goes down and is scum Burb is scum too imo. The way the voting went down doesn't sit well with me looking back on it.
Verelios and Burb vote for Kalor d1 flips town.
Burb voted for Verelios because he trusts Crab more. (Even though he flips town, doesnt help my theory BUT) This reads to me as I know Crab is gonna die but we gotta separate from one another.
VOTE: Verelios
Easy vote to hide behind...blah blah blah. First scum read I feel could actually be something. Fuq.
Still don't feel very good about the whole poison situation though...
I'm on mobile si it's a pain to quote. I proded him for a post where he said he couldn't be scum because that not how he usually play and his answer was lol. I also called him out because he wasn't trying to participate and prod people and he answered he isn't here to prod, whatever it means. If you are not here to try to catch scum why are you here?
That last post also seems scummy to me.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Now I feel it's more of a YAY! WE GOT ONE SCUM DOWN! NOW IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE KILL A NORMAL TOWN!
Y'all crazy.
Y'all crazy.