DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It doesn't even apply to consoles either. You have a choice, and all 3 charge industry standard fees. The same fees Steam, GoG and the like charge as well. If anything, Epic is playing dirty on an open platform.
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Gaming giant Steam accused of ripping off 14m UK gamers
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Guilty_AI
Member
If it is, no concrete evidence of it has ever been shown.
What we do know is that they require price parity and similar offers for Steam key sales.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
If apple has to provide alternate app store access steam has to allow their keys to be used on alternate marketplaces.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
… I am not certain if this is sarcasm or not. Genuinely can’t tell anymore.If apple has to provide alternate app store access steam has to allow their keys to be used on alternate marketplaces.
Guilty_AI
Member
but that's.... what steam keys are for...?If apple has to provide alternate app store access steam has to allow their keys to be used on alternate marketplaces.
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
It's sarcasm and a bit of irony I guess.
I don't live in the EU so I don't have any concept of what it is like to be a consumer there. We have to constantly jump through hoops to make sure any product offered there adheres to their completely ridiculous requirements its a gigantic drain on internal resources and we don't' ever see our customers there utilizing those enforced policies.
Sleepwalker
Member
I do it because my region is set to my home country, when there's sales its significantly cheaper than key resellers. But yeah I wouldnt buy from steam directly otherwise.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Most of my Steam keys come from random 3rd party keysites based in Europe. This seems like shooting youself in the foot.
Oh and you can't buy Epic game keys anywhere but the Epic store so how does their argument make any sense?
Oh and you can't buy Epic game keys anywhere but the Epic store so how does their argument make any sense?
STARSBarry
Gold Member
As someone from the UK...
What?
What?
SEGAvangelist
Member
I wonder if this puts Valve/Steam in a negative spotlight for regulators to possibly see Steam having an essential monopoly on PC game sales. They've been under the radar for so long.
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Guilty_AI
Member
I mean, there's literally nothing they could force steam to reasonably do to break off this "monopoly".
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
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NickFire
Member
I have no dog in this fight. No gaming pc, no steam account, no PC games period.
But this sounds like overreach or a cash grab from my neutral vantage point. Everyone I interact with who plays PC games seems to hold Steam in better regard than anyone else with a digital storefront in gaming,
But this sounds like overreach or a cash grab from my neutral vantage point. Everyone I interact with who plays PC games seems to hold Steam in better regard than anyone else with a digital storefront in gaming,
apocaliptic
Member
14m UK customers on Steam? DAMN
Soodanim
Gold Member
Steam is perhaps the only digital storefront that has the majority of people willing to speak in its favour. You don't get that for EGS, Ubi, EA, Rockstar, or any console one.
The only other I can think of is GOG.
This lawsuit is going nowhere and we all know it.
The only other I can think of is GOG.
This lawsuit is going nowhere and we all know it.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
What monopoly? You can buy Steam games for lower prices from other legal online stores. If you don't like Steam, you can try buying the game at the Epic store or GOG.
Jack Package
Member
I'm all for making games cheaper, and we all know Steam sales aren't what they used to be, but as someone that has played on all major platforms over the last 18 years or so I've had a Steam account, I've always found prices better there.
They should be after Sony and MS for charging for online, as well as their ridiculous download prices.
As an aside, remember how we were told for years games would be cheaper digitally because they didn't need to manufacture discs and packaging?
Some laugh.
They should be after Sony and MS for charging for online, as well as their ridiculous download prices.
As an aside, remember how we were told for years games would be cheaper digitally because they didn't need to manufacture discs and packaging?
Some laugh.
I guess the PlayStation and Nintendo "huge community" are also doing the same "winning" then
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Topher
Identifies as young
I guess the PlayStation and Nintendo "large community" are also doing the same "winning" then
Didn't say otherwise. I was replying to a post that was seemingly ridiculing the assertion of discounts that high on Steam.
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I think discounts on most storefronts have kind of become fake discounts. There was a time when those 75-90% were on newer games in a proper flash sale but now those don't really happen.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Mexicans right now.
We can sue for the prices to atleast match the US?
Fahdis
Member
I live in SA region. Jokes on you. Not only is it already 50% off for me from UK/US/Canada/EU but when the discounts hit, its even better. Also, I don't condone piracy.
Guilty_AI
Member
Seems Steam's recommended regional price for a $60 game on Mexico is Mex$ 614.99. Whatever game you're showing here purposefully chose to fuck with mexicans.
Mexicans right now.
We can sue for the prices to atleast match the US?
Edit: Could also be some tax thing since many devs don't follow that recommended price.
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winjer
Member
At a time, when there are a dozen launchers and respective stores on PC, from which to choose from.
When there are several third party key sellers, of keys that can be redeemed on Steam, for free.
It's ludicrous to say that Steam has an enforced monopoly.
It's companies like Epic that are paying studios not to publish games on Steam. Not the other way around.
When there are several third party key sellers, of keys that can be redeemed on Steam, for free.
It's ludicrous to say that Steam has an enforced monopoly.
It's companies like Epic that are paying studios not to publish games on Steam. Not the other way around.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Buckle up. It's going to get much worse.
Mexicans right now.
We can sue for the prices to atleast match the US?
Misquote.
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clarky
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CherryFalls
Banned
No they didn't. I hope Valve sues for slander
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I’ve also bought keys from Humble and Gamersgate without issue. Theres plenty of options of where to buy, and I’ve come across one game (Pocky and Rocky) that wasn’t available on a key site.
Anyways this is all nonsense anyway, brought on by people who have no idea about what they’re talking about.
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Topher
Identifies as young
This is about lawyers making massive amounts of money via settlements while pretending to represent consumers.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
hidaaan
Neo Member
r/f***epic has their pitchforks out, they're even ready to say this was Tim Sweeney's doing
Kataploom
Gold Member
There's nothing to defend, the claims have no head, no legs, nothing lol specially considering Steam spreads their own competition by allowing devs and publishers to sell Steam keys everywhere at literal no cost, thus many sites sell Steam keys and do sales for way lower prices than Steam itself since forever, I used to buy in those places until I linked my account to my residence country and now Steam local prices are lower + convenience of doing everything from SBP using a controller, but in developed countries those third party stores basically do business due to Steam not giving a F about giving keys away, basically they provided the whole infrastructure to their own competition.
Hell, the whole Humble Bundle business is based on Steam "not giving a F" about that lol.
The case, literally, makes no sense for Steam specifically, specially when their unfair share is just retailer standard since forever too.
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Kataploom
Gold Member
That's because it depends on publishers providing those keys, not on Steam, they do enough already allowing them to even give them away if they want to
Jinzo Prime
Member
USA prices don't include tax.
Mexicans right now.
We can sue for the prices to atleast match the US?
SlimeGooGoo
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bender
What time is it?
EGS is the best deal in gaming.
recursive
Member
Last I read that updated feature was in beta. Did it rollout live now? Always found it odd the family share only let one person use the library at a time as opposed to one person per game.
Topher
Identifies as young
ScHlAuChi was right all along
Man who consorts with beasts endangers Gabe Newell (Wolfire v Steam lawsuit bullshit)
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/gabe-newell-ordered-to-make-in-person-deposition-for-valve-v-wolfire-games-lawsuit tl;dr: furry developer who made a fortune selling Steam keys on Humble Bundle wants to put his devil game on Steam for like $599.00 or whatever, effectively serving as advertisement...www.neogaf.com
Not really. He is saying this is price fixing. It isn't. Price fixing is collusion between competitors to keep prices high. This clause says a pub or dev can price it however they want as long as they give Steam users the same or better deal as others.
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Tallahassee
Member
lmao so that shithole still exists, they should just merge with r/pcgaming and r/steam since it's the same deranged circlejerk.r/f***epic has their pitchforks out, they're even ready to say this was Tim Sweeney's doing
more than 5 years now since EGS launched and it still triggers
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
When was that? I was using this a few years ago, like 5 or so, and both me and my bro could access my library.
Akaik, the only limitation was not being able to play the same game.