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[Gp1]

The 3060 12GB is the last good and the last real (192bit) 60 card. It was a great upgrade over my previous 1060, though very late because of the covid prices era.

At the time it wasn't so interesting for me to do an upgrade.

And basically everything that i had thrown at my 1060, it simply chewed it up. But not anymore, meanwhile i still have a big backlog to see how the market settles.

 

[nkarafo]

At the time it wasn't so interesting for me to do an upgrade.

And basically everything that i had thrown at my 1060, it simply chewed it up. But not anymore, meanwhile i still have a big backlog to see how the market settles.

Even now the 3060 12GB is probably the best value to replace the aging 1060 if you can find one at $250 or lower. You get 2X more performance than the 1060 and 2X more VRAM. You also gain access to DLSS so that performance gain gets even bigger. Pretty sure it's cheapest card to get you 12GB VRAM as well, which should be essential for modern games at 1080p.

This is what i did. I figured the GPU market isn't going to be better any time soon so i might as well wait with a 3060 rather than a 1060. I also have a big backlog but it's so much better playing though it with the 3060 and i can even sneak in a few modern games that i wouldn't be able to play on the 1060.

 

[simpatico]

Hold steady GAF. Anything short of a scathing "DO NOT BUY" in a 5060 is pure shillery or retardation. No exceptions. I'm hitting 11GB on TLOU2 at 1080p.

 

[dgrdsv]

I'm hitting 11GB on TLOU2 at 1080p.

Which means nothing about how the game will run on cards with less than 11GB of VRAM.
Some game hitting some amount of VRAM usage on a card with gobs of memory doesn't mean that the game actually needs as much VRAM to work without any issues - or that this game in particular is a good indication of how the majority of games will work on cards with less VRAM.
8GB are still fine for 1080p medium settings and will likely be fine for a long time still.
If you're aiming at higher resolutions and higher settings (with some RT and FG on top) then 8GB hasn't been enough for years now, nothing new has happened on that recently.

 

[ReBurn]

This would make sense if it was node shrink, or Blackwell was a massive architectural gain, but it's neither. There's no meaningful gains here over the existing 4000's the mass market is still happily buying. Improvements are smaller than most of the "Super" lines they released solely to boost demand and address flagging sales, which is the exact opposite of what they need right now. They have plenty of demand and willing buyers for exponentially higher margin products, but no supply. So their solution is to waste wafers and foundry time on razor thin margin objectively unappealing junk, it's pure insanity. Modern TSMC 5nm yields are excellent, they are purpose building these as 5060's, they're not failed or rejected 5070's or 5080's they saved from the trash bin.

There are a lot of people who don't care as much about node shrinks or architectural gains as they do price. They've been happily buying 4060's in their lower priced prebuilts, but Nividia is not going to be making 4060's forever. They're going to be making 5060's and people will be buying those in their lower cost prebuilts going forward.

Not everyone cares how many dies can be fabricated on a wafer or TSMC yields. Some people just find themselves in a situation where they need a new PC for some reason and they buy one that looks pretty good and plug it into their 8 year old 60 hz 1080p Dell monitor and keep on trucking. Nvidia makes GPU's for them because what they lose in premium pricing from a smaller enthusiast market they more than make up for in volume from the "I don't need 200+ FPS full path tracing at 4K HDR, 1080p/60 at low to mid settings in one monitor is good enough for me" market.

 

[Wolzard]

4% less on ancient PCIe 3. That's nothing, I'd worry more about being stuck on a PCIe 3 CPU. If you have something that old you need to update your platform.

This is fooling yourself with statistics. There are almost 20 fps less in Elden Ring.

There are many boards still in PCI-3. Some Zen 3 like 5700G only accept PCIE-3. Those who bought B450, A520 are in the same boat. Intel up to 11th generation was also only PCIe-3.

No one will feel the need to replace components that were probably purchased about 2 years ago, considering that even if these components came out in 2020~2021, the pandemic meant that hardware component prices only became viable in 2022 onwards.

And we are talking about budget options, the target audience of the 5060/Ti probably has cheaper components.

 

[simpatico]

Which means nothing about how the game will run on cards with less than 11GB of VRAM.
Some game hitting some amount of VRAM usage on a card with gobs of memory doesn't mean that the game actually needs as much VRAM to work without any issues - or that this game in particular is a good indication of how the majority of games will work on cards with less VRAM.
8GB are still fine for 1080p medium settings and will likely be fine for a long time still.
If you're aiming at higher resolutions and higher settings (with some RT and FG on top) then 8GB hasn't been enough for years now, nothing new has happened on that recently.

Theoretically sure, but are you confident enough in that prediction to still recommend an 8GB card to a friend who wants it to last for a while? I don't imagine the $400 range is populated by people who plan on upgrading often.

 

[SolidQ]

Not GPU anymore

 

[kadab]

Not GPU anymore

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The 5060 Ti 16GB at $429 is admittedly not an outrageously terrible deal. At $379 it would be good.

The 8GB model should be $299 and the vanilla 5060 should be $249

Of course this is all moot anyway, there is pretty much no chance of finding one at those prices.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Theoretically sure, but are you confident enough in that prediction to still recommend an 8GB card to a friend who wants it to last for a while? I don't imagine the $400 range is populated by people who plan on upgrading often.

I dont know where this dude came from, but he is a straight up nvidia shill. Basically just non-stop defending nvidia, saying all these reported driver issues aren't real and it's just grifting tech youtubers.

Im fine with people who defend products and companies when reasonable, but when you say widespread issues don't exist then...no just no.

The RX7700XT or 6700XT is the best cheap GPU right now under $400 and it's not even close. Supply of those is getting small. The 3060 12GB is available for around $325 (which isnt great). 6600's can be had for around $250 - $300 tops.

 

[dgrdsv]

Theoretically sure, but are you confident enough in that prediction to still recommend an 8GB card to a friend who wants it to last for a while? I don't imagine the $400 range is populated by people who plan on upgrading often.

The answer to that depends solely on what that friend is playing usually.
If it's some DOTA2/Fortnite/Valorant/etc then sure, get an 8GB card and save the $50 as you'd get zero benefit in these from a more expensive card with more VRAM.
If it's AAA games (and ports of Sony titles specifically) then yeah, 12GB is the minimum you should be aiming at - or be ready to use lower texture quality and other settings.

I dont know where this dude came from, but he is a straight up nvidia shill.

I don't know where you came from, I've been here for years, and so far the only "shill" here is the one who's painting other as "shills" in all threads of the forum.

The RX7700XT or 6700XT is the best cheap GPU right now under $400 and it's not even close.

It is in fact very close. I'll even use a pic from your likely favorite YT channel:

 

[simpatico]

The answer to that depends solely on what that friend is playing usually.
If it's some DOTA2/Fortnite/Valorant/etc then sure, get an 8GB card and save the $50 as you'd get zero benefit in these from a more expensive card with more VRAM.
If it's AAA games (and ports of Sony titles specifically) then yeah, 12GB is the minimum you should be aiming at - or be ready to use lower texture quality and other settings.

You ignore the games with significantly lower 1% lows that exist now because of vRAM limitations?