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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived

Pejo

Gold Member
Damn, I hate giving PC Gamer any clicks, but this is heating up:

Essentially HoYo's global subsidiary Cognosphere is suing X to reveal personal details about some of the leaker accounts. They tried before but X called "first amendment" rights. Now the judge says that the data is considered not considered "core First Amendment expression", which might force their hands.
 

deanote666

Member
The Saurian possession mechanic in Natlan is pretty dark.

All of a sudden, your trusted companion either runs off to be never seen again or tries to eat you.

The parent Saurians have the same issue. Either they abandon their kids, their kids attack their former parent, or their former parent attacks their kids.

Are we the baddies?
 

Pejo

Gold Member
The Saurian possession mechanic in Natlan is pretty dark.

All of a sudden, your trusted companion either runs off to be never seen again or tries to eat you.

The parent Saurians have the same issue. Either they abandon their kids, their kids attack their former parent, or their former parent attacks their kids.

Are we the baddies?
I think it's to push the generalized theory that elemental lifeforms don't fit neatly into "is good" or "is bad". They've been hammering that concept since Fontaine's story and themes, but it's gone back as far as slimes. They exist separate to morals/roles that humans do, as native forces in Teyvat. Apep story touched on this a bit, too.
 
I think it's to push the generalized theory that elemental lifeforms don't fit neatly into "is good" or "is bad". They've been hammering that concept since Fontaine's story and themes, but it's gone back as far as slimes. They exist separate to morals/roles that humans do, as native forces in Teyvat. Apep story touched on this a bit, too.
But the game tells us the Saurians are like family to the people of Natlan, and you can find groups of Saurians living together, caring for each other etc. Even enemies have Suarians with them as companions. And then you brutally murder them. Possibly after jacking their minds/bodies.

I don't think there's a real story/lore reasons for this. They apparently wanted these creatures to be both playable and enemies, leaving us with this awkward situation. I mean, who wants to kill the baby Saurians or the Fontaine seals? Must be something wrong with some of those devs.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
But the game tells us the Saurians are like family to the people of Natlan, and you can find groups of Saurians living together, caring for each other etc. Even enemies have Suarians with them as companions. And then you brutally murder them. Possibly after jacking their minds/bodies.
Well people have domesticated dogs and consider them "family" too, but there are still wild wolves and coyotes and stuff out there too, so I don't really see the dilemma, but maybe it's just me.
I don't think there's a real story/lore reasons for this. They apparently wanted these creatures to be both playable and enemies, leaving us with this awkward situation. I mean, who wants to kill the baby Saurians or the Fontaine seals? Must be something wrong with some of those devs.
Possibly correct, I subscribe to the theory that they're going somewhere with the overall "humans made by Istaroth vs. the natural forces (and species) of Teyvat" in the story though.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
Dev talk info on upcoming changes. TL;DR - Limited time exploration rewards on new areas (separate from the regular rewards, additional), Spiral Abyss low floor sweeping, some interface QoLs.

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5.1 Special Program on the 27th.
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Pejo

Gold Member
By the way, any non-NA GAF need codes for the wings? InterMusketeer InterMusketeer I got you covered next time I get McD's. Might not get the extra code for the 40 primos + shit mats because I can't fucking stand McDonalds pies. I'll try to stomach a few meals to help out some of EU/JP GAF though. I wish they offered the spicy chicken sandwich instead of the regular ass one.
 

jonnyXx

Member
Dev talk info on upcoming changes. TL;DR - Limited time exploration rewards on new areas (separate from the regular rewards, additional), Spiral Abyss low floor sweeping, some interface QoLs.




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More artifact sorting shenanigans, it seems they are actively avoiding actual loadouts.
 

deanote666

Member
By the way, any non-NA GAF need codes for the wings? InterMusketeer InterMusketeer I got you covered next time I get McD's. Might not get the extra code for the 40 primos + shit mats because I can't fucking stand McDonalds pies. I'll try to stomach a few meals to help out some of EU/JP GAF though. I wish they offered the spicy chicken sandwich instead of the regular ass one.
The apple pie code gives the apple pie recipe in game, fyi.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
More artifact sorting shenanigans, it seems they are actively avoiding actual loadouts.
In my narrow minded viewpoint, they're trying to prevent users from switching around artifact sets to force more artifact farming instead of shuffling around already good sets. But the real right way to do this isn't to inconvenience the players, it's to offer a 5-10% bonus stats increase for locking the artifacts to only work on one character.

I don't know why they're so allergic to loadouts tbh .
 
By the way, any non-NA GAF need codes for the wings? InterMusketeer InterMusketeer I got you covered next time I get McD's. Might not get the extra code for the 40 primos + shit mats because I can't fucking stand McDonalds pies. I'll try to stomach a few meals to help out some of EU/JP GAF though. I wish they offered the spicy chicken sandwich instead of the regular ass one.
Thanks man! I was hoping someone might get more double codes due to the technical difficulties. I never expected anyone to go out of their way to buy more meal sets they don't even like. But I appreciate it of course if you decide to anyway. The recipe is not that important to me so don't feel pressured in any way!
 

deanote666

Member
Going back to the previous conversation about how some of the Natlan characters seem out of place, I think it's still in universe.

Xinyan has been in the game for a couple of years, has an electric guitar, and talks about rock and roll. No one questioned that previously.

It's mentioned that audio records exist so Xilonen having a DJ table isn't necessarily out of question with the above mentioned electric guitar. It's mentioned that Natlan has "extreme sports", like bungee jumping, so roller blades might not be out of the question.

In one of the quests, it's revealed that Kinich found an artifact from an old civilization and he has a wristband/watch that displays a holographic screen, so his pixelated art and companion aren't out of the question. The ruin golem have screens so that technology is shown to exist. Ajaw could be some sort of program in the wristband/watch. Plus Nahida's animations seem to imply a digital technology. There's at least 2 ruined civilizations that possessed advanced technology compared to the other countries.
 
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jonnyXx

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Huh, somebody made a Chevreuse mod to change her into that Fontaine goth girl that was leaked and then never released. Not bad, honestly.
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Yea that modder has been on fire releasing a lot of good stuff lately. He does great weapons too, that rifle is one I'm using.
 

jonnyXx

Member

I get why they'd be against using skins and fps unlockers, sure whatever, but they don't want us to use macros to skip dialogue? They want us to mash key/buttons instead... Yea they can fuck off with one.

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Hell even using a macro it's too slow. I'll stop using a macro when they give me a skip button.
 
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deanote666

Member
I get why they'd be against using skins and fps unlockers, sure whatever, but they don't want us to use macros to skip dialogue? They want us to mash key/buttons instead... Yea they can fuck off with one.

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Hell even using a macro it's too slow. I'll stop using a macro when they give me a skip button.
Automated input could potentially be anything and could give an advantage in game play. Might not be able to separate a story clicker and something doing a puzzle or fight for you.
 

Peroroncino

Member
Can't just be making those claims without some links or something.

Have some faith Pejo, wouldn't try to lie about stuff like that. Too much stuff to link, but simply google: "genshin impact recent bans" and you'll see a deluge of posts and videos and some compilations.


If they're just crudely detecting 3rd party software without trying to distinguish its purpose (and let's be real, who has time for that lol), then no matter what y'all use, you can still get hammered. I'm not sure why they suddenly started going ballistic on people's accounts, but it's happening in waves.
 

Pejo

Gold Member
5.1 banners, Cryo still remains dead in a ditch.
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I read a funny anecdote the other day. HoYo released 2 games since Shenhe's last banner. 1 of them (Star Rail) has already had its anniversary. 560 some days I think.

Also, the weapon banners are pretty great this patch. Not going to roll personally, but it's better than its been in a long while.

Hi guys, if anyone from US that has a MacDO code they don't need i would very appreciate.
I'm still waiting for my 2nd code to arrive, but if I get McD's again before the promo ends I'll send you the code. I'm only doing the chicken sandwich meal btw (for the glider), can't stand those disgusting pies.
 
I read a funny anecdote the other day. HoYo released 2 games since Shenhe's last banner.
Shenhe is such a tragedy man.

Very short and simple stream this time. Pretty amusing they had to bring in translators to narrate the program. There's apparently some kind of VA strike going on.

Xilonen looks good but somehow I'm a bit worried about the normal attacks she has to do to activate the samplers. She's gonna deal close to zero damage so it's just taking up time, and it sounds like she has little to no Nightsoul Points before attacking. Probably won't be a big deal, and I'm always complaining about not seeing characters' animation on-field so...

I'm really happy that the Sabzeruz festival is coming back. Free Candace is icing on the cake.

Biggest question now is who the 4-stars will be on Xilonen's banner. I'm personally also a bit disappointed with the new limited 4-star weapons showing up during this update. They always make sure to put those on the crappiest weapon banners, so I wouldn't be surprised if they held onto those for the Nahida/Hu Tao phase.
 

SSfox

Member
5.1 banners, Cryo still remains dead in a ditch.
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I read a funny anecdote the other day. HoYo released 2 games since Shenhe's last banner. 1 of them (Star Rail) has already had its anniversary. 560 some days I think.

Also, the weapon banners are pretty great this patch. Not going to roll personally, but it's better than its been in a long while.


I'm still waiting for my 2nd code to arrive, but if I get McD's again before the promo ends I'll send you the code. I'm only doing the chicken sandwich meal btw (for the glider), can't stand those disgusting pies.

Oh thanks i'll really appreciate. I only care about the red black gliders would look good on my Arlechinno.
 

ap_puff

Member
5.1 banners, Cryo still remains dead in a ditch.
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I read a funny anecdote the other day. HoYo released 2 games since Shenhe's last banner. 1 of them (Star Rail) has already had its anniversary. 560 some days I think.

Also, the weapon banners are pretty great this patch. Not going to roll personally, but it's better than its been in a long while.


I'm still waiting for my 2nd code to arrive, but if I get McD's again before the promo ends I'll send you the code. I'm only doing the chicken sandwich meal btw (for the glider), can't stand those disgusting pies.
I thought the pie was way better than the chicken sandwich 😅
 

Pejo

Gold Member
I barely ever remember to use food. The only times where it actually seems worth it are the whale and Arlecchino bosses, IMO.

It looks like the CN/JP 5.1 streams were over an hour longer due to a bunch of VA "special thanks" messages. Honestly I'm actually happy ours didn't have all of that fake "OMG THANKS FOR PLAYING THE GAME AND MAKING TEYVAT ENJOYABLE FOR ALL OF US!" shit. Especially coming from hypocritical western VAs that hate the playerbase and the game and only want to further their politics while getting paid for it.

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Pejo

Gold Member
New Web event - one and done but requires some in-game activity to get everything.


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Also some anniversary thing where you have to join browser lobbies and click some buttons to get more Primos.

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Some kind of comparison tool so you can see your stats vs. others:


Pretty cool fanart of (most) of the playable characters. Some of the "to be playable" Natlanites are missing.
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Something I thought I'd never say: I'm a bit impressed with the new pet we got for the anni rewards. It seems to respond to things happening in the world. When it rains, it covers its head with an eggshell. In Dragonspine it hides back in its egg to keep the cold out. There might be more 'interactions' like that. Don't think any of the other pets do this.

I also appreciate the new photo-taking event. It's really basic but at least gives us something anniversary-ish to do in-game, rather than with web events, concerts etc.
 
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