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Go 4K or not (PC gaming)

OverHeat

OverHeat

« generous god »
I currently have a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and I’m an image quality and framerate whore…I have a 4090 currently and was wondering if 4K is worth the framerate hit…I find that I have the best balance between performance and IQ at the moment. But I could be wrong should I make the jump GAF?
 
Gaiff

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
OverHeat said:
I currently have a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and I’m an image quality and framerate whore…I have a 4090 currently and was wondering if 4K is worth the framerate hit…I find that I have the best balance between performance and IQ at the moment. But I could be wrong should I make the jump GAF?
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No way to link your PC to a TV? I had both but I mainly gamed on the UW.
 
Sentenza

Sentenza

Member
I said for years that 4k was a premature tech and that the trade-off was too unfavorable for gaming, but right now I think we are on the cusp of making it the viable standard for high end configurations.

I'm on a 1440p panel with a 3080ti but my plan was to switch to a 4K one when the 5080 and equivalents will be on the market.
 
diffusionx

diffusionx

Gold Member
HeisenbergFX4 said:
As someone who has a 45" ultrawide 240hz and a 32" 4k 240hz I can say that when I am on the UW I miss the sharpness of the 32" but when I am on the 32" I miss the UW

If I were forced to game on one display and it was PC only I am sticking ultrawide
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best of both words:
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Kenpachii

Kenpachii

Member
Had a 3440x1440 ultrawide myself moved to 55 inch lg c2 oled tv absolutely like it. U can always enforce ultra wide 3440x1440 on the oled tv which i do for some games and switch back to 4k at a finger tip, so u got the best of both worlds. Currently waiting for 5000 series to release so i can drop 5090 in there or a 5080 and have high framerate 4k gaming.
 
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The Cockatrice

The Cockatrice

Banned
The perfect size/pixel density is around at 27 inch and 1440p. 4K should be for bigger monitors and if youre standing a bit further away than what a normal person would stay in front of a monitor. People blindly saying 4k have no idea wtf theyre talking about. A higher pixel density than say 120 is not noticeable at all if you;'re standing close to the monitor, so you're just wasting framerate.


www.rtings.com

1080p vs 1440p vs 4k: Which Resolution Is Right For You?

When looking for a new monitor, one of the first things you'll see about its specs is the resolution, but what does it mean exactly? Those numbers may not mean much if you don't know too much about them before looking for a monitor.
www.rtings.com www.rtings.com
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
OverHeat said:
I currently have a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and I’m an image quality and framerate whore…I have a 4090 currently and was wondering if 4K is worth the framerate hit…I find that I have the best balance between performance and IQ at the moment. But I could be wrong should I make the jump GAF?
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Are we in a quantum entanglement?

I was in a very similar dilemma.
I recently moved to a new apartment which doesnt have enough space for a 4K TV and an HFR Ultrawide 1440p monitor on a separate desk.
I had to choose one to keep.


I eventually decided to go with the 4K panel.
Yes Im not maxing out the refresh rate (i5-12400) but im still doing alright.......is the 4K panel better than the 1440pUW there is a noticeable bump more so for productivity than in gaming, but that might just be because I was used to gaming at 1440pUW and when I switched to the 4K panel it just became normal after a while.
And If I want that Ultrawide feel again, I just set a custom resolution.



My home setup is an embarrassment because when i need to do "serious" PC'ing I have to bring out my angle/stand seat.

I didnt even know these were a thing until I had this problem.

5100_HealthPostures3094.jpg


5100_HealthPostures3206AF.jpg


5100_HealthPostures3213AF-2.jpg





^ Not this exact one, mine is some offbrand shit I found at an office supply warehouse, but its pretty much exactly the same.
 
Fess

Fess

Member
I use 4K on a 65 inch TV sitting 10 feet away and 1440p on a 27 inch monitor sitting 3 feet away, can not see pixels on either one so I’d say that’s well balanced.
 
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Klik

Klik

Member
I have 27" 1440p 144hz monitor and 4K 28.5" for work and honestly i dont think 4K is worth that performance hit.

1440p/144hz is definitely gonna last me for a loooong time.

Im gonna upgrade from 1440p to 8k in a decade😃
 
Black_Stride

Black_Stride

do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
AJUMP23 said:
What is this.....What is going on here?

I feel like if I saw this in the office I would create an HR violation.
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Hahahaha.

Its a chair that has three stages of err....sitting.

You can use it as basically a standing chair.
Make it more of a kneeling chair.
Or drop it to simply be a chair chair.


Your office aint got no standing desks?
 
rm082e

rm082e

Member
The value of higher resolution is directly related to your individual eyesight, and the distance you sit from the screen. Each individual will be different and each person's setup will be different. So just asking about resolution alone is only part of the equation.

For me, my eyesight is a tad blurry, so a 32" 1440 monitor looks super crisp 20" from my nose. To someone with eagle eyes, I'm sure they'd see a noticeable bump on a 32" 4k, but I can't. Therefore, increased resolution is not a good reason to move to a 4k monitor. Things like brightness level, screen technology, curved vs flat, ultrawide, etc. might be.

I think the biggest argument to upgrade for most people will be moving from IPS or VA to OLED. I won't be able to justify the upgrade cost for a few years, but I'm really happy to see the new 32" OLED monitors coming out. That's the combination of size and tech I've been wishing for over the last couple of years.
 
Celcius

Celcius

°Temp. member
4K is amazing. Once you go 4K you never go back.
Do it (especially with an RTX 4090)
 
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AJUMP23

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Black_Stride said:
Hahahaha.

Its a chair that has three stages of err....sitting.

You can use it as basically a standing chair.
Make it more of a kneeling chair.
Or drop it to simply be a chair chair.


Your office aint got no standing desks?
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We all have standing desk, but we do not have those chairs.
 
analog_future

analog_future

Resident Crybaby
I game on a 77" 4K OLED and could never go back. My 4090 doesn't break a sweat at 4k either. In fact I think you're kind of wasting the 4090 @1440p.
 
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OverHeat

OverHeat

« generous god »
Thx for all your advice, just ordered it for a cool 2000$ CAD my ‘old’ monitor is going to my wife so now she as an oled too it’s a win win.
 
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nikos

nikos

Member
I had a 34" 3440x1440 and upgraded to 38" 3840x1600 a few years ago.

This is the sweet spot for me until a monitor with the same, or higher, size and resolution comes along. Should be within the next year or year and a half, last I checked.
 
Bry0

Bry0

Member
The Cockatrice said:
The perfect size/pixel density is around at 27 inch and 1440p. 4K should be for bigger monitors and if youre standing a bit further away than what a normal person would stay in front of a monitor. People blindly saying 4k have no idea wtf theyre talking about. A higher pixel density than say 120 is not noticeable at all if you;'re standing close to the monitor, so you're just wasting framerate.


www.rtings.com

1080p vs 1440p vs 4k: Which Resolution Is Right For You?

When looking for a new monitor, one of the first things you'll see about its specs is the resolution, but what does it mean exactly? Those numbers may not mean much if you don't know too much about them before looking for a monitor.
www.rtings.com www.rtings.com
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If you’re trying to balance cost and performance sure, but if you are, for example, used to Apple retina screens on MacBooks, 1440p at 27 inch is noticeably lower ppi than a 32 inch 4K which makes even just the desktop or text look dramatically better. (~110 ppi vs ~140)

It’s a nice “luxury” and scaling in windows/linux is good enough that things being too small isn’t really a problem anymore.
 
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SyberWolf

SyberWolf

Member
advantage of having a big 4K monitor/tv is you can change it to ultrawide with black bars/letterbox. whatever it is called.
 
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YeulEmeralda

YeulEmeralda

Linux User
Sentenza said:
I said for years that 4k was a premature tech and that the trade-off was too unfavorable for gaming, but right now I think we are on the cusp of making it the viable standard for high end configurations.

I'm on a 1440p panel with a 3080ti but my plan was to switch to a 4K one when the 5080 and equivalents will be on the market.
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DLSS helps.
 
Bulletbrain

Bulletbrain

Member
OverHeat said:
I currently have a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and I’m an image quality and framerate whore…I have a 4090 currently and was wondering if 4K is worth the framerate hit…I find that I have the best balance between performance and IQ at the moment. But I could be wrong should I make the jump GAF?
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Why not just downsample to get an idea? Especially with DLDSR? Sure, it won't be the exact same thing as "true" 4k, but you will get 80% of the benefits I feel
 
//DEVIL//

//DEVIL//

Member
I play 4k on 27 inch 144 monitor with FLAD IPS display.

the crispiest image I can have due to the high PPI . had a 32 inch and was big for my setup as the monitor is kinda close to my face ( 50 cm distance ).

but you need 7900xtx / 4080 and above for proper 4k unless you want to count on DLSS ( FSR sucks )
 
rodrigolfp

rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
SyberWolf said:
advantage of having a big 4K monitor/tv is you can change it to ultrawide with black bars/letterbox. whatever it is called.
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In my experience this introduces problems as some games not acknowledging being in fullscreen and/or borderless fullscreen.
 
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Buggy Loop

Buggy Loop

Member
OverHeat said:
I currently have a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and I’m an image quality and framerate whore…I have a 4090 currently and was wondering if 4K is worth the framerate hit…I find that I have the best balance between performance and IQ at the moment. But I could be wrong should I make the jump GAF?
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Ultrawide 1440p is already best spot imo.

No use to go 4k
 
Minsc

Minsc

Gold Member
1440p is not even enough for a 15" laptop, let alone a desktop monitor. Upgraded to a 4k laptop, and did the same for desktop.

It's basically the standard resolution. If you want to use your device for anything beyond gaming, like streaming shows/movies, not having a 4k display will actively hurt your options.
 
xVodevil

xVodevil

Member
Well I went with the new MSI 4k OLED around end of March, bit worried as I only have the RTX 4070 Ti.
Obviously not all the way ultra, but with balanced high settings mostly (limited VRAM issues can show) I was genuinely surprised how the general performance surpassed my expectations.

I just didn't want the trade of for 1440p with good fps for 4K around 60.. but nope, that's not the case! I have to say with DLSS performance around I have absolutely no regrets!

So for example just the same time Dragon's Dogma 2 dropped and it could have been perfect as a brand new game performance wise, if not for the horrible stutters in the city... But shortly after other new game dropped to test: Ghost of Tsushima and it was absolutely fantastic performance wise too!
 
RoboFu

RoboFu

One of the green rats
The trick is to buy a native monitor to whatever resolution you can max. Don't buy a 4k monitor to play in 1440.

1440 looks like shit on a 4k monitor but can look great on a decent 1440 monitor.

My oled monitor is 4k so that's what I game at.
 
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