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Go 4K or not (PC gaming)

Polygonal_Sprite

Gold Member
1800p/60fps is the best to build your graphics settings around imo as personally I find it incredibly difficult to tell the difference between 1800p and 2160p. If the game is GPU bound and depending on settings you can gain an extra 20-30fps versus full 4k.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
The trick is to buy a native monitor to whatever resolution you can max. Don't buy a 4k monitor to play in 1440.

1440 looks like shit on a 4k monitor but can look great on a decent 1440 monitor.

My oled monitor is 4k so that's what I game at.

With all the dozens of upscaling methods now and frame generation this really isn't an issue, UI at 4k and game engine upscaled with AI to look better than native. Plus 4k is exactly 1080p at 200%, so you can integer scale w/o any "weird" but really amazing DLSS.
 
With all the dozens of upscaling methods now and frame generation this really isn't an issue, UI at 4k and game engine upscaled with AI to look better than native. Plus 4k is exactly 1080p at 200%, so you can integer scale w/o any "weird" but really amazing DLSS.
the only good upscaling method is dlss, and that isnt perfect or available in every game.

having the ability the run a game with good performance at your display's native res is an important safety net.
 

RoboFu

One of the green rats
With all the dozens of upscaling methods now and frame generation this really isn't an issue, UI at 4k and game engine upscaled with AI to look better than native. Plus 4k is exactly 1080p at 200%, so you can integer scale w/o any "weird" but really amazing DLSS.

No dlss is for losers.. it's even part of its name. Dumb Losers Suckass Scaling.

I like my resolution like I like my women. native and high!

s-l400.jpg
 

manfestival

Member
I currently have a 3440x1440 175hz monitor and I’m an image quality and framerate whore…I have a 4090 currently and was wondering if 4K is worth the framerate hit…I find that I have the best balance between performance and IQ at the moment. But I could be wrong should I make the jump GAF?
I mean with your monitor it should be fine to stay at but I really do love my 240hz 1440p monitor with the 4090. I just throw everything at max graphics and still get a great 140+ fps in most games that are demanding.
 

dcx4610

Member
I still think 4K for PC gaming is too demanding for what you are actually getting. I'd rather have 1440p, high frame rate and everything maxed out vs. 4K at 30 or 60fps on medium or high. It's going to depend on your monitor size and specs though. 27-32", I'd probably stick with 1440. Anything bigger, 4K.

As someone else said though, don't buy a 4K monitor and play at 1440p. You want to play natively.
 

clarky

Gold Member
Are we in a quantum entanglement?

I was in a very similar dilemma.
I recently moved to a new apartment which doesnt have enough space for a 4K TV and an HFR Ultrawide 1440p monitor on a separate desk.
I had to choose one to keep.


I eventually decided to go with the 4K panel.
Yes Im not maxing out the refresh rate (i5-12400) but im still doing alright.......is the 4K panel better than the 1440pUW there is a noticeable bump more so for productivity than in gaming, but that might just be because I was used to gaming at 1440pUW and when I switched to the 4K panel it just became normal after a while.
And If I want that Ultrawide feel again, I just set a custom resolution.



My home setup is an embarrassment because when i need to do "serious" PC'ing I have to bring out my angle/stand seat.

I didnt even know these were a thing until I had this problem.

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^ Not this exact one, mine is some offbrand shit I found at an office supply warehouse, but its pretty much exactly the same.
I dont think having massive tits is a problem if im honest.

4k 120hz for me btw.
 

Hohenheim

Member
When I had my 4090 I used 4K. 1440p felt kinda like a waste with that card.
Now i've sold it, and im using my 3090 again with a OLED 27" Samsung monitor. The difference is of course there, but not very big.
The 4K monitor was 32" though.
Felt like a perfect size for 4K, while 27" is perfect for 1440p.
 

64gigabyteram

Reverse groomer.
I said for years that 4k was a premature tech and that the trade-off was too unfavorable for gaming, but right now I think we are on the cusp of making it the viable standard for high end configurations.

I'm on a 1440p panel with a 3080ti but my plan was to switch to a 4K one when the 5080 and equivalents will be on the market.
I think that 4k isn't desirable because of its image quality but because of its flexibility. It's easier to scale down to lower resolutions like 1080p on a 4k monitor using integer scaling- so you can have a lower resolution for if you want HFR or have 4k if you are willing to deal with sub 100fps

Not to mention that CRT Royale and many shaders for retro games in Retroarch work best in 4K.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
I think that 4k isn't desirable because of its image quality but because of its flexibility. It's easier to scale down to lower resolutions like 1080p on a 4k monitor using integer scaling- so you can have a lower resolution for if you want HFR or have 4k if you are willing to deal with sub 100fps

Not to mention that CRT Royale and many shaders for retro games in Retroarch work best in 4K.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Choice between perfect crisp and sharp true 4k or 4k with DLSS, or integer 1080p (perfect scaling) at 240fps or whatever.

The 4k monitors resolve text a lot better too.

Plus you get fucked if you try to stream on an OLED from netflix or wherever on a sub 4k - 1440p monitor they just give you a shitty 1080p stream and say have fun. You need a real 4k display to pull 4k video on.

I dunno how all the native res people manage their PS5's on 4K HDTVs, as almost nothing there runs native without upscaling, and stuff that does tends to be 30fps.
 
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Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
UW is way more immersive less taxing on GPU so better 60+ framerates.

I love my 4k c3 but that shit is for my console..
 

buenoblue

Member
I sit 6 feet from a 65 qd OLED 4k and it's beautiful. I have a 32inch 165 hz monitor but only play rocket League and strategy games on it.
 

CashPrizes

Member
I was just playing Persona 3 Reload, and had been playing on 4k with max settings for a few weeks. 2 days ago I took it down to 1080p just for kicks, and I almost threw up in my mouth. Like if it is your first time loading up a game maybe the difference is not as drastic, but once you get used to how crisp 4k looks, cutting the resolution in half is a deal breaker.
 

Rudius

Member
4k120 or gtfo
then if you have extra power, downsample

4k is already showing its age with large TVs
4K on 40 inch TV was looking kinda bad for me for office work, even positioning it as far as I could on the desk. Switched to a 27 inch 4k monitor and it looks good now. It doesn't looks perfect yet, and certainly 4K is not a waste at 27 inch, that's absurd, but at that size it looks correct or good enough, I'd say.
 

Rudius

Member
No dlss is for losers.. it's even part of its name. Dumb Losers Suckass Scaling.

I like my resolution like I like my women. native and high!

s-l400.jpg
Lol, I wander what "upscaled" women looks like, but I sure do love "native" in that regard.
 

Minsc

Gold Member
We have 4K UHD content available everywhere. If 1440p is good enough, so is 1080p and so is 720p, and so is 480p. 16GB of RAM is good enough, 8GB of video ram is good enough, hell 4GB of video ram is good enough it goes on forever.

You either have the best or you don't. Good enough is the first step in settling for less.

I do get the UW argument, if you have the space and want UW, then resolution becomes less important. But with the abundance of native 4K content, and all the advantages and clarity 4K brings, why not.

Would you buy a HDTV that wasn't 4k?
 
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