Goalus
Member
Stevivor's review isn't done yet.
He might be able to give the game a fair score now.
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Gran Turismo 7’s microtransactions are live, and GT Sports’ $5 cars now cost $40
He might be able to give the game a fair score now.
ManaByte
Member
You can see the names of the creators right under the planes. So yes, but lets not let facts invade the outrage.
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SLB1904
Banned
oh excuses to justify microtransactions.
microtransactions are microtransaction period, doesn't matter if you a great lipstick on it
daffyduck
Member
False equivalency. Try again.
SidViscous
Member
Imagine if a modern game had old school cheat codes. Do some Konami-code shit and you get unlimited credits, I'm too young to remember but it seems weird how everyone is just okay that this stopped being a thing.
Super GT has been playing flat out and has only has 2.7 million credits on hand after 81 hours of play.
There are cars that cost 20,000,000 so do the math.
He also said he thinks they are too hard to earn in the game.
If you are a casual player you have no chance of using a huge percentage of the game's content.
You also have to modify cars for online races now which is an increased credit sync vs sport.
The game is clearly very unfair with credits to push you towards microtransactions.
There are cars that cost 20,000,000 so do the math.
He also said he thinks they are too hard to earn in the game.
If you are a casual player you have no chance of using a huge percentage of the game's content.
You also have to modify cars for online races now which is an increased credit sync vs sport.
The game is clearly very unfair with credits to push you towards microtransactions.
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Mattyp
Not the YouTuber
What? We’re talking about a third party that only gets paid once, that’s at the sale of the model. We’re not talking about a company that has already been paid to complete models that are in game already. These aren’t even new models they’re charging $40 for, this isn’t the community hand making new cars that aren’t in the game selling them for $40.
You can see the difference right? Right.
Glad we cleared that up. Probably should of played FlightSim first.
SLB1904
Banned
nah im good
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
bull fucking shit.
Finally a racing sim where I have to grind for hours and hours so I can use a car that doesn't suck ass. Rinse and repeat.
For less money I'll get 48 racing tracks in Mario Kart 8. It's piss poor value and a reason to boycott.
SLB1904
Banned
That's the neat part, you don't!
and lol at Mario kart.
some of you are just a parody at this point
Kagey K
Banned
Gran Turismo 7 "Legend Cars" Will Be Dynamically Priced by Hagerty
Gran Turismo has partnered with specialist classic car insurance and valuation company Hagerty, in a collaboration that will see the brand provide real-world, dynamic values for some of GT7's most exclusive cars. The tie-in will be part of the game's "Legend Cars" dealership -- previously known a
www.gtplanet.net
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
Inviusx
Member
If you play the game normally you're showered with cars and credits. Of the 40ish cars I own, two I bought myself and the rest were rewarded from the campaign/licenses/missions.
The game is not holding back on giving you stuff.
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SpongebobSquaredance
Unconfirmed Member
It's an absurd grind fest with a purposefully slow progression to make you buy credits. No matter the angle you look at it, this is unacceptable.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
you forgot the the "limited stock" cars which can randomly just sell out before the second hand refresh at random, better buy credits while there still in stock...
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Inviusx
Member
Thank you for your concern. We will be fine.
SLB1904
Banned
lol
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sir, you've brought facts to a feelings fight.
TrebleShot
Member
The plot thickens.
Today I was invited to purchase a Porsche Carrera in career mode….
The catch? The invite runs out on March 19th , not sure what happens after, but the car costs 2.3m credits.
Today I was invited to purchase a Porsche Carrera in career mode….
The catch? The invite runs out on March 19th , not sure what happens after, but the car costs 2.3m credits.
009EspadaSageJay
Member
This must be alot of peoples 1st GT or they never played GT5 or GT6 limited Used cars were always a thing and were even set up by the in-game/real world clock. If you play the game you get tons of cash and cars all of the time you can ignore the cars that cost the 20mill till the end game but most of those cars are collectors type cars.
Inviusx
Member
In GT4 there were also cars that were only available on 1 day of the year in the UCD. The games have always been like this, they aren't designed to be "completed" in weeks or months they want you to have things to work towards up until the next game. It's classic GT.
Shell companies for DLC 
. So let me get this straight all Polyphony need to do to charge $51 for a plane (car) and it will be ok is say they outsourced their modelling to someone (which they ironically have this time round).
Head of Microsoft Flight Simulator:
"This unique add-on was created in close and fruitful collaboration with Microsoft and Asobo Studio"
news.xbox.com
I'm pretty sure a lot of the non-dlc planes were outsourced to this company anyway. Now they publish $51 planes to sell to whales.
Not to mention in Europe that's literally the first party publisher of the retail game
forum.aerosoft.com
. So let me get this straight all Polyphony need to do to charge $51 for a plane (car) and it will be ok is say they outsourced their modelling to someone (which they ironically have this time round). Head of Microsoft Flight Simulator:
"This unique add-on was created in close and fruitful collaboration with Microsoft and Asobo Studio"
Microsoft Flight Simulator Gets First Highly-Complex 3rd Party Airliner from Aerosoft - Xbox Wire
Microsoft Flight Simulator is the latest entry in Microsoft’s longest running franchise with a history of 38 years, but it is not just a popular simulator – it is also a development platform. Today, we are proud to announce that the team at Aerosoft, in close collaboration with the development...
news.xbox.com
I'm pretty sure a lot of the non-dlc planes were outsourced to this company anyway. Now they publish $51 planes to sell to whales.
Not to mention in Europe that's literally the first party publisher of the retail game
>> Aerosoft official retail partner for Microsoft Flight Simulator <<
Rebirth of a legend It is with great pride that we can announce that Microsoft has chosen Aerosoft as its retail publishing partner for the new Microsoft Flight Simulator . Aerosoft will bring the two boxed versions of this venerable simulator to customers in Europe. Including 10 (!) double-layer...
forum.aerosoft.com
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Holy shit, this FS2020 comparison is the mother of all false equivalencies.
FS2020 is an actual simulator used by real pilots and pilots in training to learn all of the systems and switch gear of various planes. Addons are also made by entirely separate companies who don't have the multi billion dollar backing from Microsoft so they have to pass on costs more directly to their customers.
Gran Turismo might has well be fucking Daytona USA in comparison.
FS2020 is an actual simulator used by real pilots and pilots in training to learn all of the systems and switch gear of various planes. Addons are also made by entirely separate companies who don't have the multi billion dollar backing from Microsoft so they have to pass on costs more directly to their customers.
Gran Turismo might has well be fucking Daytona USA in comparison.
Karak
Member
This is correct. One of the 3 reasons I did a review in progress. Had to test the middle and long game grind.
Karak
Member
Not really able to parse this thread as everyone is going everywhere.
Some points of facts for reference from someone reviewing it.
1 Store wasn't live during the review period
2 Those who didn't do a review in progress most likely also do not have a mission statement or review statement for their channel or page. Which means they aren't required to cover the store.(Before you argue with me on this just be aware I am not saying its cool I am saying their is no actual requirement if they aren't telling you they hold themselves to that.
3 The grind middle and end areas is dramatically/noticeably longer than the initial start which does slow down gains. Doing match on it right now but I would say it rests around...40-70%. FYI that is on the hardest difficulty with clean runs.(I have, as of yet, not heard of any other reviewer who even looks at the math and such in reviews. Thats not some kind of brag. Its something that we should all be doing. Just saying its not tracked)
4 I love the gyro steering lol
Some points of facts for reference from someone reviewing it.
1 Store wasn't live during the review period
2 Those who didn't do a review in progress most likely also do not have a mission statement or review statement for their channel or page. Which means they aren't required to cover the store.(Before you argue with me on this just be aware I am not saying its cool I am saying their is no actual requirement if they aren't telling you they hold themselves to that.
3 The grind middle and end areas is dramatically/noticeably longer than the initial start which does slow down gains. Doing match on it right now but I would say it rests around...40-70%. FYI that is on the hardest difficulty with clean runs.(I have, as of yet, not heard of any other reviewer who even looks at the math and such in reviews. Thats not some kind of brag. Its something that we should all be doing. Just saying its not tracked)
4 I love the gyro steering lol
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80,000 credits an hour
That's because they are on the beginner races when you start with a small normal car. As you go up to super car races the prize money increases. GT Sport and all past GT is the same.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
And because there isn't an option to buy the car with real money, so the dumb-ass work around solution to that must be the official way.
I understand you clearly.
Anyway I've grown bored of the topic and I need to reach level 100 on my Halo Infinite battlepass
Gotta get that sick Helmet cosmetic!
It's only $200!
purpletentacle
Member
"we cordially invite you to give us more money"
Tripolygon
Banned
Umm GT is an official Olympics game and there are literal professional racers who got there start through GT Academy.
Yea FS2020 being an “actual simulator used by real pilots” means nothing. Not downplaying FS2020 btw, just showing that your argument is no more valid than the above.
Dream-Knife
Banned
Always online suddenly makes sense.Gran Turismo 7 "Legend Cars" Will Be Dynamically Priced by Hagerty
Gran Turismo has partnered with specialist classic car insurance and valuation company Hagerty, in a collaboration that will see the brand provide real-world, dynamic values for some of GT7's most exclusive cars. The tie-in will be part of the game's "Legend Cars" dealership -- previously known a
Fbh
Member
93xfan
Banned
So they offer MTX because they don’t want people to use MTX…
And it’s done in a way to offer no disincentives for rich people.
Well that all checks out.
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MScarpa
Member
Not for the Xbox ecosystem. Still 60$ and no upgrade fees. Atleast for now anyways. Just buy used, atleast it's what I do. Fuck their markups.
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Yea, like 3 people and they had real world racing experience and simply used a competition on GT for a leg up.
Not even remotely the same thing.
reezoo
Member
What needs to be done is objective comparison of how much effort it would take to get these 40$ cars in previous games and see if they inflated it to push people towards MTX. If there isn’t any inflation in the ingame effort required then this sounds like a move to discourage people from buying cars via MTX. I earn in 6 figures an think twice before buying more then 1 game in a month. 40$ for a car is just insane. I planned to buy GT7 plus steering etc. to do the setup but if I had to put more money to get cars, not happening.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
That sounds rough.
Inviusx
Member
The cars that are 1 million+ credits are Le Man's endurance cars, the F1 replicas, some rare classic cars from motorsport history like the Ferarri 250 GTO and some specially tuned fan favourites from GT history like the Tom's Castrol Supra.
The other 90% of the roster is your average GT fair, like 80s/90s tuners, hot hatches, muscle cars etc all of which are in that 40-400k credit range. Even the actual GR3 racing variants are only 450k like GT Sport.
So don't get the wrong idea that you can't afford cars without ponying up your six figure salary, most of the cars are stupidly easy to acquire.
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Sega Orphan
Banned
There's also the peer pressure with kids. My boy and his friends love cars. They all play Forza Horizon together. One of the kids ends up with a hyper car like Bugatti etc, and he will rock up in that and so the other kids then want one as well. One of the other kids parents will then be nagged into getting their kid one, and your kid is the only one without it. So while we are talking diffferent games, the process is the same. Theres going to be a hell of alot of parents buying $40 cars so their kids arnt left out.
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Sega Orphan
Banned
That's really scummy. I imagine they will do something about it, but the MTX cash grab in games is getting out of hand.
I would have spent easily close to $1k on Fornite with all the Battle passes, V-bucks etc. If I hear the words "there a really cool skin in the item store" ever again....
009EspadaSageJay
Member
yep and some of that stuff is Easter eggs and stuff jay leno's cars could only be bought out of the used car in GT5 the GT games are built on you playing them either over and over or just continually till the next game. The amount of stuff in these games is crazy and they arent ment to be played in a after noon and thats its kaz never designed any of the GT games to work like that.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
I had some PSN credit and bought the 19.99 pack for 2 million credits. I ended up with a Lamborghini. Somehow I feel like they want to gradually take more of my money each time I boot this game up. It was fun for what I played today. I was showing it off to my kid. Kinda feel empty inside for buying a digital car like that. The industry must think we are pretty stupid to make this much money off one game. I have enjoyed these games since PS1/2.
wipeout364
Member
Please see below:80,000 credits an hour
That's because they are on the beginner races when you start with a small normal car. As you go up to super car races the prize money increases. GT Sport and all past GT is the same.
Kagey K
Banned
Hiding them during review period is definitely deceitful.
Anyone in here defending this, better never whine about about MTX in games again.
Rykan
Member
Ah yes, its developers trying to sell a solution for a problem they themselves created. How are people still falling for this crap? The grind has been designed delibaretly to get players to spend money on the game to skip it. This isn't some kind of "solution" to an unavoidable problem.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This sounds rough, I honestly expect that the amount of credits you earn or the prices of the cars will be reduced over the coming weeks.
also, how are we comparing flight sim to GT7? One is an actual simulator used by pilots to learn how to fly a specific plane with planes that are designed , developed and sold by third parties for a specific aircraft.
the other is a great “sim” racer but no driver Is using it to learn how to drive that specific car. If you can’t see the difference then you are …I dunno….
also, how are we comparing flight sim to GT7? One is an actual simulator used by pilots to learn how to fly a specific plane with planes that are designed , developed and sold by third parties for a specific aircraft.
the other is a great “sim” racer but no driver Is using it to learn how to drive that specific car. If you can’t see the difference then you are …I dunno….