Half of I9-13900K and I9-14900K units are defective, according to tester

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The tester is the owner of a studio that buys several CPUs for their own needs. In invoices shared by the tester, it is revealed that he has bought and tested at least 100s of Intel Core i9-13900K and Core i9-14900K CPUs and it looks like almost all of the chips he acquired had some sort of issue in terms of stability. Motherboards used by the studio include ASUS's Z790, B760, Z690 and B660 boards.


The software he runs requires each CPU and PC to pass through a certain variety of tests and at the Auto profile set in the ASUS motherboards, the majority of CPUs fail this test and have to be resold. Based on these tests, the tester determined a probability rate respective to the CPU's stability & it is shared below:


  • Intel Core i9-13900K "AUTO -253W" - 40/50% (4/5 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-13900K "Reduced Loadline" - 50-60% (5/6 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-13900K "B760/B660 Board" - 60-70% (6/7 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-14900K "AUTO - 253W" - 20% (2 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-14900K "Reduced Loadline" - ~30% (3 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-14900K "B760/B660 Board" - 40% (4 out of 10 units stable)
via Wccftech
 
RhyDin said:
I uh..I have the 14700k. Between this thread and the other one about "oodle decompression failures", am I safe?
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See if there is a BIOS update for your board. Motherboard vendors have been playing with fire on power limits.
 
Magic Carpet said:
Is it the motherboards fault? or intels not forcing the motherboards to 'auto' correctly. Or is it just simply the processor itself that is messed up?
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Technically Intel's fault. Even on their recent statement they effectively blamed the MOBO makers fault but also claimed that they did nothing wrong since it allowed their CPUs to remain within "spec." They allowed this to happen while trying to remain competitive against AMD.
 
I think, and this is admittedly speculation, but perhaps intel is a bit butthurt about the recent success of AMD, so they're pushing clock speeds beyond what is "reasonable"

just take the L intel, and design better processors in the future :P
 
Yeah.... I think I'll go with AMD next time.

Intel customer here since the 90's, but between the Spectr/Meltdown shit 6 years ago (losing performance due to brance prediction vulnerabilities) and this, combined with the high power draw compared to AMD with no performance benefits...

Think I'll go for a x3D chip next.
 
YeulEmeralda said:
How Intel has fallen. When I was a kid "Pentium inside" was on top of the world.
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Intel was Like a handsome college football player then an accident happened and Intel can't play anymore no one cares anymore for Intel.
AMD was like the nerd who always sat by himself in the corner then he changed his life completely now he is the most valuable college football player the best he is about to win the championship
That's what happened 😂
 
AncientOrigin said:
Intel was Like a handsome college football player then an accident happened and Intel can't play anymore no one cares anymore for Intel.
AMD was like the nerd who always sat by himself in the corner then he changed his life completely now he is the most valuable college football player the best he is about to win the championship
That's what happened 😂
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Intel is now a shoe salesman.
 
Hmm, maybe continuously selling old chips and just jacking up the power requirements to get slightly higher benchmarks isn't a good idea, who knew?
 
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This is really unfortunate but hopefully this causes Intel to stop this behavior now before the 15th gen and new platform come out. I'd much rather have a stable system that lasts for years than a system at the top of the benchmark charts but runs super hot and starts degrading after a year.
 
Celcius said:
This is really unfortunate but hopefully this causes Intel to stop this behavior now before the 15th gen and new platform come out. I'd much rather have a stable system that lasts for years than a system at the top of the benchmark charts but runs super hot and starts degrading after a year.
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perfect post and name combination.
 
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Intel wants Default Settings with PL1/PL2 at 125W/188W to be implemented by motherboard vendors by the end of May - VideoCardz.com

Intel Default Profile will lock PL2 to 188W Intel wants all LGA-1700 motherboards to support Default Profile, and there is even a deadline. The 14th Gen Core K-series of unlocked desktop CPUs has been on the market for a few months now, representing a higher clocked version of the Raptor Lake...
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The 14th Gen Core K-series of unlocked desktop CPUs has been on the market for a few months now, representing a higher clocked version of the Raptor Lake chips known from the 13th Gen Core series. It appears that the finely-tuned clocks on the new series, combined with not necessarily default motherboard settings, have caused problems for many gamers in terms of stability.

Ultimately, it seems that most vendors were eager to support the "Extreme" power profile, which not only has higher Power Limits (PL) but also allows higher current to pass through the CPU. Now, Intel reportedly mandating a new Default/Baseline profile by default, which would lock the CPU's PL2 (Power Limit 2/Maximum Turbo Power) to 188W. This is a much lower value than the Performance and Extreme profiles, which allow up to 253W.
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I read all the time in the PC thread about people refusing to buy AMD CPUs because of issues and bad experiences

Yet all I've been reading about these days are Intel issues. Asus had that issue with supplying too much power to X3D CPUs causing them to explode, but that seems to be have been completely fixed.

The blame for this screw up is on Intel and the motherboard manufacturers.

This is why I care so much about power draw and efficiency. Pumping that much power through a CPU will never be good for longevity. It can always lead to issues down the road.
 
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Draugoth said:
Intel-Core-i9-13900K-Raptor-Lake-Desktop-CPU-Performance-Leak.jpg


The tester is the owner of a studio that buys several CPUs for their own needs. In invoices shared by the tester, it is revealed that he has bought and tested at least 100s of Intel Core i9-13900K and Core i9-14900K CPUs and it looks like almost all of the chips he acquired had some sort of issue in terms of stability. Motherboards used by the studio include ASUS's Z790, B760, Z690 and B660 boards.


The software he runs requires each CPU and PC to pass through a certain variety of tests and at the Auto profile set in the ASUS motherboards, the majority of CPUs fail this test and have to be resold. Based on these tests, the tester determined a probability rate respective to the CPU's stability & it is shared below:


  • Intel Core i9-13900K "AUTO -253W" - 40/50% (4/5 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-13900K "Reduced Loadline" - 50-60% (5/6 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-13900K "B760/B660 Board" - 60-70% (6/7 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-14900K "AUTO - 253W" - 20% (2 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-14900K "Reduced Loadline" - ~30% (3 out of 10 units stable)
  • Intel Core i9-14900K "B760/B660 Board" - 40% (4 out of 10 units stable)
via Wccftech
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Cool. I didn't know Fiat were making CPUs now.
 
YeulEmeralda said:
Intel is now a shoe salesman.
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It did throw 6 touchdowns in one game back in high school though.

Picture of Intel CEO on hearing the news:

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On a more serious note AMD had all kinds of shenanigans during AM4 launch and I was sweating bullets they my Asus board wouldn't fry my 7800x3D.

Both Intel and AMD have been irresponsible and board makers keep pouring gasoline on the fire.
 
StereoVsn said:
It did throw 6 touchdowns in one game back in high school though.

Picture of Intel CEO on hearing the news:

200w.gif


On a more serious note AMD had all kinds of shenanigans during AM4 launch and I was sweating bullets they my Asus board wouldn't fry my 7800x3D.

Both Intel and AMD have been irresponsible and board makers keep pouring gasoline on the fire.
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It's insane that you can't even trust stock settings these days.
 
DenchDeckard said:
Thanks man. It's my own fault. Hopefully this 13900KS keeps on trucking!

Looks like I'll be going for my first ever personal AMD build on the next round.

My daughters 7800X3D i got her is awesome.
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How Americans aren't all running to microcenter to jump on that deal right now blows my mind

From Canada, fuck you all with your amazing deals

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