Hypertrooper
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Haha. Many people will.
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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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This map comes to mind.
She said the structure has 3 levels, from what I recall Relic has 1 (plus ground floor underneath)
Also BS Angel never said she was talking about the remake, just a map.
EDIT: Beaten
When I read that bulletin I immediately thought of Waterworks and have been hoping for it since. Assuming she was talking about the remake.... I'd be happy with Waterworks or Containment.
Gunnerdude
Neo Member
WATERWORKS!
My Theory....
Mexican food menu....
Frankie has troubles with Mexican food....
The resulting smell drives folks to the bathroom to throw up...
Frankie has left the smell there too!
Endless vomiting ensues and the wretching causes people to cry....
Waterworks... BAM!
PS. the central structure in Waterworks has three levels, for all those that need it to fit into the three levels mumbo jumbo.
Der Flatulator
Member
Mexico.
Taco.
Sandtrap and Valhalla confirmed.
Taco.
Sandtrap and Valhalla confirmed.
Mexico.
Taco.
Sandtrap and Valhalla confirmed.
I'd be so happy.
I think if Sandtrap never had the Elephants there would be absolutely no redeeming qualities about that map - It was a dust bowl with some giant lego blocks thrown in...
imo it's the worst BTB map in the whole series but... to each his own.
lol exactly what I'm getting at - I think they're the sole reason people like the map. I'll admit I had a blast with the Elephants too. I played a match on it recently (the Elephant-less variant) and it was just incredibly boring.
imo it's the worst BTB map in the whole series but... to each his own.
lol exactly what I'm getting at - I think they're the sole reason people like the map. I'll admit I had a blast with the Elephants too. I played a match on it recently (the Elephant-less variant) and it was just incredibly boring.
Der Flatulator
Member
But it does have Elephants...
Completely unrelated to anything being talked about, but one thing that has always bothered me about Halo is.... the grass. Or lack thereof.
I was playing Bad Company 2 tonight and I noticed how good of a job the environment artists did of putting all the foliage everywhere around the maps. Halo's ground has always been one big flat texture with little sprouts of grass that seem like an afterthought.
It's a campaign shot, but this
And that concludes my weekly rant of things that annoy me about Halo. Now to focus on the positives... I really, really want a Waterworks remake. I had so much fun playing that game in customs with my brothers.
I was playing Bad Company 2 tonight and I noticed how good of a job the environment artists did of putting all the foliage everywhere around the maps. Halo's ground has always been one big flat texture with little sprouts of grass that seem like an afterthought.
It's a campaign shot, but this
awesome-ass sky box aside. It's just something I never understood. Tempest in Reach was a nice step, but I want more!
looks so much better than this...
And that concludes my weekly rant of things that annoy me about Halo. Now to focus on the positives... I really, really want a Waterworks remake. I had so much fun playing that game in customs with my brothers.
"because he's mailing these himself, this particular giveaway is US-only. "
Reach still has color(aside from Forge), but it's just hiding under all their filters.
Wow. That edited picture hurts!
Der Flatulator
Member
Truth.
I was protecting you!
Der Flatulator
Member
Sandtrap without Elephants is like CTF without any flags.
They want you to be able to see grenades and weapons with ease. Valhalla actually had pretty dense vegetation, but they made it all very short or flat for that reason. Drop a grenade in your first pic and you'd never find it.
How is that stuff handled in the game the first pic is from?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
What's with people loving Sandtrap? I was not a fan. I think the color palette did it. All brown everywhere.
A remake with some color might help.
A remake with some color might help.
And yet - this exact variant of Sandtrap exists in matchmaking. Not disagreeing with you - Sandtrap blows without the Elephants.
The original Forge World but with the Stonerunner aesthetic.
I've asked Santa for one.
sandtrap/sandbox was such a boring combo
True. But with this new HUD system that shows where weapons are spawning, plus the grenade indicator, I don't think having a decent amount of foliage would hamper anything like that. Sure that example I posted is more than I'd like in a Halo game, but at the very least there needs to be more than there is now, IMO.
I'm not saying it looks terrible... but it isn't exactly aesthetically pleasing as is.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I'd take floating grenades/weapons or some sort of indicator if it meant having proper foliage. Make it look as natural as possible then adapt, not the other way around (at least in this case). At this point it's my only real complaint about Halo 4's visuals.
Making it larger would change the whole purpose, if it's a remake. A remake like Wizard to Warlock, or Blood Gulch to Coagulation. I am still in strong belief that not just the DMR would derail the hill-to-base dynamic here some people persistently love, but the addition of sprint since. Halo 3's speed was fine for it but the Spartans are a bit faster now due to sprint and with the unlimited sprint mod, it only makes getting front one spot to another that much faster, and that map was never large to begin with. And this is suppose to be 4's BTB map. Get something large.
Also: center hill, caves on the surrounding sides, symmetrical base structure - the map you should be talking about is Containment, not Valhalla. Did everything better, and somehow allowed a Scorpion to work on it. If Bungie didn't oopsy themselves and leave a hole in the roof, Banshees would have been on it.
Hypertrooper
Member
MUHAHA I photobombed! No I did not. I am blurry. Sigh.
Halo 4 does use those floating indicators at times, though I don't think they are on everything. It could get pretty cluttered in heavy areas where there are lots of weapons and grenades scattered around; you'd have a dozen or more indicators bunched up.
I thought the series has done a decent job of hitting the sweet spot (Valhalla, Standoff) though I agree the pic above is rather sparse.
ncsuDuncan
Member
Yeah, that was a pretty terrible idea on my part. Not sure why I thought we could do a podcast after so much booze. Got a few chuckles from watching it when I got home, but it's not something I'm going to upload anywhere.
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The video I have of that moment is precious. I'll only upload if I have the consent of both parties though - I'm not in the business of blackmail/embarassment.
Battlefield also doesn't have to worry about splitscreen. Sure, you can just not render or render less grass on splitscreen, but now you're in a situation where a 2-man box has a notable advantage over single-screen if every weapon in the grass is clear as day to them but the single screener can't see it at all.
Hydranockz
Member
Get Elzar on the phone.
adamfedoruk
Neo Member
Don't give me grass unless I can lay prone and hide in it.
Garrett 2U
Member
Sounds like the perfect reason to not add grass!
How about bribery?
adamfedoruk
Neo Member
Problem solved! No grass.
Hypertrooper
Member
Btw. what happened to Euro HBO Lan?
I'll take out a loan if I have to.
This is HaloGAF. Everyone is in the business of embarrassment.
These are the greatest ideas ever. I will use them all.
That shot is actually a good encapsulation of the plastic's translucency.
Tha Robbertster
Member
This takes not being able to drop the flag to a whole new level.
The Real Napsta
Member
Psh, wireless.