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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war

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NecrosaroIII

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What about the invasion of Tibete. Or the genocide of the Uyghurs.
Not to mention numerous territorial incursions into the pacific ocean? Or essentially tricking people into slavery from the Philippines, North Korea and other places? Or the fact they've essentially neo-colonized Africa?

China does all sorts of fucked up shit. They just are low-key about it.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
And oh look here... the other part of this entire farce making an appearance. The UAE rolling out the red carpet for a murderous thug.

Make no mistake, there are lines being drawn in the sand here, and it's important we know where they are. The axis of repressive, barbaric middle-eastern states and Russia presents the biggest existential threat to western values and democracy in the world right now.


Damn, I would LOVE to know the security arraignments for that flight. No doubt multiple decoys, heavy CAP, and a bird that has extensive defenses of its own.
 

FunkMiller

Member
What about the invasion of Tibete. Or the genocide of the Uyghurs.

Both absolutely awful, but the sad reality is that the Chinese are too powerful economically to ignore at the moment - though it would be lovely if that weren't the case at some point in the near future.

And, although this is admittedly callous, those horrific things are not existential threats to the west. Russia's axis with the Middle Eastern countries most certainly is. Any nation that rolls out the red carpet for Putin can and should be seen as enemies of the west.
 
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DeepEnigma

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Both absolutely awful, but the sad reality is that the Chinese are too powerful economically to ignore at the moment - though it would be lovely if that weren't the case at some point in the near future.

And, although this is admittedly callous, those horrific things are not existential threats to the west. Russia's axis with the Middle Eastern countries most certainly is. Any nation that rolls out the red carpet for Putin can and should be seen as enemies of the west.
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This conditioning us that China is not an existential threat to the West is exactly why they're able to operate unabated, grease political palms, and will eventually show how much they're a threat, but at that time, it will be too late.
 
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winjer

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Both absolutely awful, but the sad reality is that the Chinese are too powerful economically to ignore at the moment - though it would be lovely if that weren't the case at some point in the near future.

And, although this is admittedly callous, those horrific things are not existential threats to the west. Russia's axis with the Middle Eastern countries most certainly is. Any nation that rolls out the red carpet for Putin can and should be seen as enemies of the west.

Yes, you are right, China's money has been able to silence most criticism about it's regime.
What is happening in Tibete and what is happening with the Uygurs is many times worse than anything that Israel has ever done.
But China sponsors the UN, so the UN shuts up and ignores any invasion and genocide.
And Muslim countries will cry foul if one single Muslim is killed by Israel, even if it's a terrorist. But China kills millions of Muslims and no one bats an eye.
 

FunkMiller

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This conditioning us that China is not an existential threat to the West is exactly why they're able to operate unabated, grease political palms, and will eventually show how much they're a threat, but at that time, it will be too late.

Not on the level right now of Russia and the middle eastern bloc, no.

The Chinese economy is bound intrinsically with the west's. There's a degree of mutually assured economic destruction if they push things too much, or destablise western markets. And while their depredations certainly need to be curbed, the current geo-political situation shows us that the far greater threat is currently posed by the Russian axis.

So, you're absolutely right to highlight that China is a threat - but an economic one. Russia is at the forefront of supplying, funding and supporting terrorist organisations that want to kill western people. It is also conducting an illegal invasion of a strategically vital nation to the world's food supply, and the west's soft and hard power. Russia needs to be dealt with properly, and any nations that support it should be sanctioned.

So while Newsome's antics are certainly worthy of criticism, they aren't equatable to the cunts rolling out red carpets for that goatfucker.
 
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DeepEnigma

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Yes, you are right, China's money has been able to silence most criticism about it's regime.
What is happening in Tibete and what is happening with the Uygurs is many times worse than anything that Israel has ever done.
But China sponsors the UN, so the UN shuts up and ignores any invasion and genocide.
And Muslim countries will cry foul if one single Muslim is killed by Israel, even if it's a terrorist. But China kills millions of Muslims and no one bats an eye.
And China is backing Russia.
 

Woggleman

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China is a threat because a lot of companies put greed before country. For decades they would rather pay slave wages instead of actually paying a decent wage in America which allowed China to sit back and learn how to beat us at our game. It's ironic that hyper capitalist greed is what allowed a communist country to have such a hold over us. I am for communism at all but I do know that allowing unchecked greed is not good either.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
China is a threat because a lot of companies put greed before country. For decades they would rather pay slave wages instead of actually paying a decent wage in America which allowed China to sit back and learn how to beat us at our game. It's ironic that hyper capitalist greed is what allowed a communist country to have such a hold over us. I am for communism at all but I do know that allowing unchecked greed is not good either.
And politicians that opened the doors to all of this and still continue to do backdoor deals with communist dictators; putting their greed before country.
 
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DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
There's been some debate that the issue with the universities not censoring students for saying antisemitic stuff isn't what's wrong. It's that they're not censoring it, but censoring students and staff for a plethora of other things. And the solution is to not censor anything and allow all of it in the name of free speech.

As someone who is very pro free speech, I'm curious to where everyone stands on this debate. I don't think you can allow students marching on your campus calling for genocide against Jews. Once that happens it becomes about more than speech. Now, you'll have students in fear of their safety and that is no stable environment for any student. Especially a learning environment. How is a Jewish student supposed to go to class and walk the halls everyday when they know that a large portion of the population are in favor of these people being killed or violence happen upon them.

Even as a free speech guy, I can't get on board with that. If students want to chant "Free Palestine!" that's another matter entirely. That is different from chants for genocide or chanting gas the Jews. If you're going to allow the latter, then you might as well allow students to walk up to other students and tell them you're going to fucking kill them.
 
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ADiTAR

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There's been some debate that the issue with the universities not censoring students for saying antisemitic stuff isn't what's wrong. It's that they're not censoring it, but censoring students and staff for a plethora of other things. And the solution is to not censor anything and allow all of it in the name of free speech.

As someone who is very pro free speech, I'm curious to where everyone stands on this debate. I don't think you can allow students marching on your campus calling for genocide against Jews. Once that happens it becomes about more than speech. Now, you'll have students in fear of their safety and that is no stable environment for any student. Especially a learning environment. How is a Jewish student supposed to go to class and walk the halls everyday when they know that a large portion of the population are in favor of these people being killed or violence happen upon them.

Even as a free speech guy, I can't get on board with that. If students want to chant "Free Palestine!" that's another matter entirely. That is different from chants for genocide or chanting gas the Jews. If you're going to allow the latter, then you might as well allow students to walk up to other students and tell them you're going to fucking kill them.
Free speech is not limitless when it comes to wishing harm on someone. That's when it stops being free speech and becomes something you can litigate and have consequences for.
 

Happosai

Hold onto your panties
Sorry for the double. But this is an important 6min.


This was the most difficult one to listen to yet. Everyone please do watch the full 6-minutes. I'd only heard a small excerpt of her story but never in full till now.
There's been some debate that the issue with the universities not censoring students for saying antisemitic stuff isn't what's wrong. It's that they're not censoring it, but censoring students and staff for a plethora of other things. And the solution is to not censor anything and allow all of it in the name of free speech.

As someone who is very pro free speech, I'm curious to where everyone stands on this debate. I don't think you can allow students marching on your campus calling for genocide against Jews. Once that happens it becomes about more than speech. Now, you'll have students in fear of their safety and that is no stable environment for any student. Especially a learning environment. How is a Jewish student supposed to go to class and walk the halls everyday when they know that a large portion of the population are in favor of these people being killed or violence happen upon them.

Even as a free speech guy, I can't get on board with that. If students want to chant "Free Palestine!" that's another matter entirely. That is different from chants for genocide or chanting gas the Jews. If you're going to allow the latter, then you might as well allow students to walk up to other students and tell them you're going to fucking kill them.
Americans within reason should support all amending rights in the Constitution. However, being pro-free speech or 1st amendment doesn't mean support atrocious rhetoric of anti-Semitism, anti-Israel and the like. Right on the .gov page there are clear areas which are not protected under the first and you can read:

Freedom of speech does not include the right:​

  • To incite imminent lawless action.
    Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969).
  • To make or distribute obscene materials.
    Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
  • To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
    United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
  • To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
    Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).
  • Of students to make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
    Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser, 478 U.S. 675 (1986).
  • Of students to advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
    Morse v. Frederick, __ U.S. __ (2007).

    Source
 
There's been some debate that the issue with the universities not censoring students for saying antisemitic stuff isn't what's wrong. It's that they're not censoring it, but censoring students and staff for a plethora of other things. And the solution is to not censor anything and allow all of it in the name of free speech.

As someone who is very pro free speech, I'm curious to where everyone stands on this debate. I don't think you can allow students marching on your campus calling for genocide against Jews. Once that happens it becomes about more than speech. Now, you'll have students in fear of their safety and that is no stable environment for any student. Especially a learning environment. How is a Jewish student supposed to go to class and walk the halls everyday when they know that a large portion of the population are in favor of these people being killed or violence happen upon them.

Even as a free speech guy, I can't get on board with that. If students want to chant "Free Palestine!" that's another matter entirely. That is different from chants for genocide or chanting gas the Jews. If you're going to allow the latter, then you might as well allow students to walk up to other students and tell them you're going to fucking kill them.
Advocating for the killing of anyone, let alone an entire race is not free speech. These Universities have entirely lost touch with reality and any sense of common decency. The irony of it all is they probably think they’re ‘fighting the good fight’.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Advocating for the killing of anyone, let alone an entire race is not free speech. These Universities have entirely lost touch with reality and any sense of common decency. The irony of it all is they probably think they’re ‘fighting the good fight’.
But don't you dare say being an actual woman is more than just a costume and makeup.
 
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Dynasty8

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The double standard is so absurd. In today's modern day campuses, saying something like "There are only 2 genders" or "I believe all lives matter" is considered fascist, racist, sexist, bigotry...but saying "Gas the Jews" or all the other literal genocide callouts is considered justified, understandable and free speech... Just think about that for a second.

These radicals have taken over the left and their crazy obsession with race and gender have made them numb to critical thinking.

I've always been a moderate my entire life and called out radicals on the right, but this wokeness virus has spread far into leftist politics where the only thing controlling these lunatics is this deep anger and hatred.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
These universities, media and political groups were never against hate speech. They're against "hate speech" towards their collectivism pet groups. Hate speech towards those not in the group has always been okay, even encouraged. Have we not been paying attention the past 8+ years?
 
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Happosai

Hold onto your panties
But don't you dare say being an actual women is more than just a costume and makeup.
Probably because an actual successful group who have been victimized, villainized and ostracized by scores of people (Jews) aren't victims in socialism. However, somehow that man wearing a wig and dress lost some great war in the West to become a victim? People never see socialism because it starts in the public before it moves more politically. Make not mistake, people who have issues with their birth certificates have never been victims of anything but their own foolishness and those who put them on the soapbox. Jews have historically been victimized and we all saw 3 Ivy League presidents overtly deny anti-Semitism on campuses when hammered by the law. I will say this too...there were warning signs leading up to this and they were in every Western nation.

Sorta like the whole thing with Muhammad, or Karl Marx...or Adolf Hitler...they're dead and long gone, but their followers most certainly aren't. That's what people dare defend and use to pompously justify themselves for every participle of hatred toward Israel, Israeli Jews and Jews globally. Hopefully more will stick it to them too as I know many are growing tired of this clown show in the West.
 

ADiTAR

ידע זה כוח
I really hope TGAs won't turn into a Palestinian masturbation contest. I hope they'll keep their ignorant politics outside, since I do enjoy the show and I would turn it off if this shit starts.

People need to remember, Hamas started this war. They fucked around, and now they are finding out. Don't celebrate 10/7 if you can't handle the consequences.
 

tommib

Gold Member
I really hope TGAs won't turn into a Palestinian masturbation contest. I hope they'll keep their ignorant politics outside, since I do enjoy the show and I would turn it off if this shit starts.

People need to remember, Hamas started this war. They fucked around, and now they are finding out. Don't celebrate 10/7 if you can't handle the consequences.
I do feel we’re going to have some Hamas love at the TGAs. Just like you, I’ll turn it off immediately when that happens.
 

FunkMiller

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I really hope TGAs won't turn into a Palestinian masturbation contest. I hope they'll keep their ignorant politics outside, since I do enjoy the show and I would turn it off if this shit starts.

A large amount of video game developers are young, middle class, rich, entitled Americans, who have attended higher education…. So good luck with that.
 
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Wildebeest

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A large amount of video game developers are young, middle class, rich, entitled Americans, who have attended higher education…. So good luck with that.
You don't understand. When they come out in support of genocide of Jews it isn't going to be some sort of nasty old patriarchal genocide with shouting white men but a cosy crowdfunded indie genocide with very diverse representation. Totally different.
 
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RE: the university question: that’s a masterpiece of a gotcha question because the most correct answer is “it depends.” And I think that’s where their minds melted down, because they’re thinking of the…I dunno, one time out of a thousand where it’s not? So they don’t want to say yes because they’re thinking of the exception to the rule, where that hate speech might not be considered bullying or harassment (e.g. said in private to a non-Jew; no one is bullied or harassed in this scenario). Then they get called out for that one exception and can’t have that!

But the way it’s worded using “calling for” …you don’t really call for things to a single person in private, it’s done from a pulpit or during marches or put on signs. That’s obviously harassment and bullying Jewish students who definitely will hear and see it. So the likelihood of there being any real exception to the rule is basically nil. You could confidently answer yes and use that above explanation to someone piping up and saying “well what about this (extremely unlikely thing)?”

Well, how many times do you “call for” genocide in private because you don’t want the people you hate to know about it, moron?

Anyway, that’s my viral video meltdown analysis.
 
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FunkMiller

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You don't understand. When they come out in support of genocide of Jews it isn't going to be some sort of nasty old patriarchal genocide with shouting white men but a cosy crowdfunded indie genocide with very diverse representation. Totally different.

Ah yes, the 'Humble Bundle' genocide.

Support the destruction of Israel and the death of Jews with these fifty indie games for a buck.
 

Raven117

Member
After supporting 10/7 they'll ask and cry for a ceasefire, because it's only ok for one side to use force.


Ya know, I always thought this whole “cultural Marxism” thing was just right wing bs. Seems that is not the case and once again I was mistaken.

Also, just wtf?! How warped is someone’s mind to described Oct 7 the way that deeply misguided women described it?
 
Espe
I really hope TGAs won't turn into a Palestinian masturbation contest. I hope they'll keep their ignorant politics outside, since I do enjoy the show and I would turn it off if this shit starts.

People need to remember, Hamas started this war. They fucked around, and now they are finding out. Don't celebrate 10/7 if you can't handle the consequences.
c considering tonight is the first night of Hannukah.
 

tommib

Gold Member
Ya know, I always thought this whole “cultural Marxism” thing was just right wing bs. Seems that is not the case and once again I was mistaken.

Also, just wtf?! How warped is someone’s mind to described Oct 7 the way that deeply misguided women described it?
I wrote the exact same message to a friend today. “Guess the alt-right breitbart trolls weren’t that wrong about the cultural Marxist boogeyman”.

We live and learn, I guess.
 

Happosai

Hold onto your panties
Shades of 1938. These pasty noodle armed cunts have no idea the beasts they will awaken upon them if they keep pushing. They are creating the monsters they project.


This is indeed and I don't have a Twitter / X account, therefore I didn't catch the name of the business who did this to a Jewish woman. If you're wondering why, with the help of Jewish businessmen...we've successfully shutdown two anti-Semitic businesses already and seen many terminated from employment. It's my mission that lessons or repercussions aren't slapped on the wrist afterward but right now. I'd also advise anyone who see's this to do your part: review bomb their Google or Yelp pages, document so you're in the right and be civil. I do not use fighting words or profanity. We stay calm when approaching the people who run these businesses and people are going to learn fast in the West that the 1st most certainly does not protect this.
 

Happosai

Hold onto your panties

Oh boy...we know exactly what the Western mobs are doing with these photos too. They'll say, "look at those poor palestinians or hamas (whatever) and how they're abused by the evil IDF." IDF needs to interview every last man there and publish their war crimes publicly too as rebuttal. Let the word hear it from them in interviews because these monsters are proud of what they did on the 7th.

Question: What's the deal with all the shoes in the first photo?
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
After supporting 10/7 they'll ask and cry for a ceasefire, because it's only ok for one side to use force.



We support Palestine.....anonymously!

Seriously, do these clowns think a real life event is supposed to work like some discord chat room where you can show up, spout your bullshit, and not face any consequences?
 

StueyDuck

Member
I don't really understand why Americans aren't pulling out of these universities en masse and just simply not paying them.

it's time these establishments die anyway, look at those gross ass loser professors there in congress, not a single one has lived a real day in the real world. Almost definitely were the types that studied there years ago and were too terrified to get a real life so they just extended their studied and moved on to tutoring then lecturing and now they are the heads of the establishment, the most qualified dumbest person you will ever meet.
 
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