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[GHG]

Well you have a nice library indeed, but I have plenty of legitimate purchased games. I won't get into it with you on the piracy debate because its not appreciated here.

Calling people who don't buy a product at full price a beggar is still an insult, and yes you should get off your high horse.

And same with calling people who use Gamepass beggars its just pathetic behaviour.

I've never called people who don't pay full price for games beggars, I outlined sales and 3rd party keysites as reasons why services like gamepass on PC have failed to be an attractive proposition to the vast majority of individuals who game on the platform.

I've specifically outlined which people I consider to fall in to the category of being "beggars", and those people typically don't buy games at all (or don't anymore). Sorry if you feel like you happen to fall in to that category and feel offended by it.

Did you pay full price for all those games and bought the most expensive version (premium, deluxe, etc....) of those that had it??? If no, you are a beggar too.

Swing and miss.

Wow. Who hurt you lmao.

Beggars.

The ones partially responsible for studios such as Tango getting shut down.

 

[MMaRsu]

I've never called people who don't pay full price for games beggars, I outlined sales and 3rd party keysites as reasons why services like gamepass on PC have failed to be an attractive proposition to the vast majority of individuals who game on the platform.

I've specifically outlined which people I consider to fall in to the category of being "beggars", and those people typically don't buy games at all (or don't anymore). Sorry if you feel like you happen to fall in to that category and feel offended by it.

I dont fall into that category at all but I think its a stupid opinion to have of someone who uses a service where they rent games.

As if renting games has somehow become a beggars way of playing videogames. Like some sort of gatekeeper on how games must be enjoyed and purchased/consumed. Oh you must purchase the product, even at full price otherwise thou art a beggar

 

[vkbest]

Never. Game Pass is a failed strategy.

Gamepass was designed to kill competency, but killed Xbox instead

 

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With PC game adoption on the rise and the semi success of game pass for Xbox, how long before we see a steam pass?

Would you even be interested in a steam pass if it had, let’s say 100 titles that rotated in and out on a bi monthly basis?

They already do steam sales, which are deeply discounted games. This could be another pillar to that or they could offer if you’re a member of steam pass that you get a 50% discount if you purchase a title ins inside the steam pass.

I think this would make them massive amounts of money if they charged $15-$20 a month they have such a massive collection of titles that they could include. With 40% of the titles being a mixture of older and newer AAA titles with Indies

This would typically give a lot of titles that people skip over a chance to be seen and played while also offering AAA players access to some games that are not available on other platforms

What are you guys think of the idea what would make a successful or do you think it would just be a complete waste of time?

I'd bet most Steam users already have backlogs which already destroys any value of a "pass". As you mentioned, they already have Steam sales which is their main draw.

Also, the idea that a "pass" gives exposure to games is flawed, IMHO. Just because a game is "free" or available to you doesn't mean you're going to play it. EGS gives away free games yet can't generate any engagement on their platform and there are dozens of games on Game Pass that nobody ever plays.

I mean, just applying Pareto's Principle, 20% of the games on Game Pass will generate 80% of the engagement from the subscribers. And that 20% is probably going to be dominated by MS first party games like CoD, Forza, Starfield, etc., along with whatever big AAA game (lol) they've signed deals for. I haven't looked into any of this because I honestly don't care enough to do the research but I'd bet engagement on Game Pass lines up damn near perfectly with Pareto.

Steam won't ever have a subscription service but you MIGHT see one on EGS if they get desperate enough.

 

[GHG]

I dont fall into that category at all but I think its a stupid opinion to have of someone who uses a service where they rent games.

No, because you'll just gladly pirate if you can't get your way.

As if renting games has somehow become a beggars way of playing videogames.

The behaviour that I've outlined goes far beyond "renting":





If these kinds of people aren't beggars, what are they?

 

[MMaRsu]

The behaviour that I've outlined goes far beyond "renting":





If these kinds of people aren't beggars, what are they?

Oh no some random twitter users yelling stuff, its the end of the world as we know it!

 

[GHG]

Oh no some random twitter users yelling stuff, its the end of the world as we know it!

People on this very forum have said exactly the same things and words to that effect.

If it were only isolated to a couple of people on twitter then Xbox software sales wouldn't have tanked globally and they wouldn't have had to resort to porting all of their games across to other consoles.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Just trying to have a civil conversation and ask about the possibility, but I don’t think that game pass has failed in any manner. I think it’s continuing to grow and it’s a pillar of their gaming division, but who knows I could be totally wrong.

You are totally wrong. Gamepass has failed because it couldn't reach the critical subscriber numbers that could support itself. And reason is because the millions of subscribers NEEDED, are all either playing free to play games or playing GaaS that meant they play at most one game for multiple years. Gamepass is a pillar of salt that couldn't hold its own weight.

And it doesn't matter what you want to believe, because faith can't help Xbox pay for Gamepass.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Gamepass is proof that subscribing to video games is not ever going to be profitable or successful

Why would anyone else try to copy Microsoft's failure? "Hey guys, MS literally nuked their own console, destroyed their gaming market, and ended their entire gaming brand. Let's copy what they are doing!" said literally no one ever

 

[Nintendo's Witch]

Why the fuck they would go gainst their own business model? lmao.

 

[Dorfdad]

I'd bet most Steam users already have backlogs which already destroys any value of a "pass". As you mentioned, they already have Steam sales which is their main draw.

Also, the idea that a "pass" gives exposure to games is flawed, IMHO. Just because a game is "free" or available to you doesn't mean you're going to play it. EGS gives away free games yet can't generate any engagement on their platform and there are dozens of games on Game Pass that nobody ever plays.

I mean, just applying Pareto's Principle, 20% of the games on Game Pass will generate 80% of the engagement from the subscribers. And that 20% is probably going to be dominated by MS first party games like CoD, Forza, Starfield, etc., along with whatever big AAA game (lol) they've signed deals for. I haven't looked into any of this because I honestly don't care enough to do the research but I'd bet engagement on Game Pass lines up damn near perfectly with Pareto.

Steam won't ever have a subscription service but you MIGHT see one on EGS if they get desperate enough.

I fall into that category myself lol. However I still see a value added service for them to offer something similar or even partner with Microsoft and add Gamepass to stream.

A lot of us on here tend to live in a gaming bubble. As for those saying Gamepass is a failure I’m not sure where their proof comes from that because Microsoft is still promoting and investing in it. I do think however their goal was to offer Gamepass to Sony and Nintendo but they didn’t want to be part of it so they are now having to release their games 1 by 1 on those platforms to get some money.

 

[Sooner]

Because GamePass is soon successful, right?

 

[Pedro Motta]

Gabe Newell is not stupid.

 

[Sooner]

Just trying to have a civil conversation and ask about the possibility, but I don’t think that game pass has failed in any manner. I think it’s continuing to grow and it’s a pillar of their gaming division, but who knows I could be totally wrong.

You are

 

[poppabk]

You are totally wrong. Gamepass has failed because it couldn't reach the critical subscriber numbers that could support itself. And reason is because the millions of subscribers NEEDED, are all either playing free to play games or playing GaaS that meant they play at most one game for multiple years. Gamepass is a pillar of salt that couldn't hold its own weight.

And it doesn't matter what you want to believe, because faith can't help Xbox pay for Gamepass.

Why are we saying gamepass failed? Last I checked it is still going?

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Why are we saying gamepass failed? Last I checked it is still going?

It destroyed Xbox
It destroyed all game sales on Xbox
It convinced Xbox owners not to buy games even from 3rd parties.

Still good news it's still going.

 

[damidu]

Why are we saying gamepass failed? Last I checked it is still going?

so does series consoles, should be a success by that logic.

 

[MMaRsu]

Why are we saying gamepass failed? Last I checked it is still going?

Its the daily "shit on Xbox" thread with the usual suspects at the helm

 

[Crayon]

You want to NOT do what xbox does. Jfc I can't believe there's still people who think ms is leading the way on everything right down to the perfect time to end consoles.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Why are we saying gamepass failed? Last I checked it is still going?

Oh, OHHH.....

I am sorry. I think I didn't know I was talking to a child. Have a good day. I mean it, I though you know how things worked.

 

[poppabk]

Oh, OHHH.....

I am sorry. I think I didn't know I was talking to a child. Have a good day. I mean it, I though you know how things worked.

After reading this thread I feel like I am the only one who understands how things work.
People don't want to deal with the facts -
Most subscription services are making money. Most major gaming companies have a subscription service. Subscriptions are taking over everything.
You aren't putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Hopefully never.

 

[Edgelord79]

Gamepass gamepass gamepass.

I love these threads lol. People get so worked up.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Valve doesn't need anything like that. They are selling games and getting a good percentage while running a relatively small staff. Players are happy and the service is breaking user number records (probably due to a sudden wave of new Chinese players, but still).

 

[Ozzie666]

I honestly think it goes agains't everything Steam and Gabe represents. Where do you stop, do you pay wall on-line play? achievements?

Steam is the anti console enviroment. Last thing they want to do is follow Microsoft's Gamepass road map

 

[GHG]

10 minutes of literal begging:




Must be my imagination though.

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

Evidently OP has been living in a coma the past five years. Subscription services don’t make money and don’t add value. They destroy it.

They add a ton of value for me. So I dont know what youre on about.

 

[Fafalada]

Humble already did this as part of humble monthly. It got quietly discontinued.