I was wondering that. The 7800x3D runs the cooler a lot more than my old i7 I upgraded from. Perf is great though.
There are legit better fans than the ones Deep Cool ships with. Are they worth the cost? That’s a different question entirely. The Silent Wings Pro 4 are going to push more air, which means he can lower the rpm and thus lower the noise. It’s also the quality of noise. I’m not bothered by a calm fan sound, but when you have a whine/hum added to that noise, I find that very distracting.
Yeah, those are good options too.
Cooler has no problem keeping the CPU mostly under 80c at load, but again like I said, a bit louder than what I upgraded from.
You have options. Problem is that there is no true way to know how they will fit. Deep Cools heat sinks are very specifically designed for their fans. A standard 25mm fan should fit, but ya never know. Aside from the Phanteks T30, it appears the Be Quiet Silent Wings Pro 4 are the best performance to noise option. They’re not cheap, but they’re not by worse than any other 120mm of high quality.
I'm coming from a 7700k, which I think is like a 60w part. Thing barely hit 60c and I never remember hearing the fan. I understand the days of elegant silicon are gone and now we're in the hot rod era. Just trying to get use to it and seeing where I can mitigate some of the noise. Perf is tremendous.
Absolutely not worth the hassle.
Any pics?
Most fans are awful when running on max speed, I'd investigate using software like Fan Control to modify your fan speed curves.
If you plan on keeping the GPU for a long time, like a few to several years.. the 7900 GRE's extra VRAM will be a boon. 12GB of VRAM is barely enough for 1440P with upscaling and RT. And this is coming from a 4070Ti owner. That GPU while good, is annoyingly hamstringed by its memory. Not due its bus, but its capacity. If you plan on playing and upgrading in a couple years the 4070Ti/4070 Super is a brilliant and efficient GPU and you can't go wrong with.
As good as Cyberpunk 2077 looks with pathtracing, I still don't feel that PT elevated the game all that much. It still looks damn good rasterized. I do like RT reflections but even those can look great rasterized.
90 fps is about the minimum for me that I want on PC. I will tolerate 60 on console. 30 fps is absolutely unplayable for me. OLED completely broke me.Every time I upgrade, I hate the idea of bending the knee to Nvidia. I hate that they have a soft monopoly, and I want more consumer choice. Buuuuuut, DLSS (quality), DLAA, and now frame generation all work extremely well. Also, I've been using Nvidia cards since I got back into PC with the GTX 680 and I've never once had an issue with drivers. That whole "it just works" thing has been 100% true for me. Everyone I've talked to (more like interrogated) with AMD cards have eventually admitted they've had some issues, although they typically downplay them.
So as much as I hate to say it, if you're going to go with one of those three options, I would vote for the 4070 Ti. I don't think there's any chance the 5000 series cards will come down in price point meaningfully. We need the AI market to crash for that to happen, and if it's going to, I think it's still more than a year out.
That said, if you're getting 80fps in Cyberpunk with acceptable settings with your current hardware, what are you actually going to accomplish by getting more GPU horsepower? 120fps? Does that increase in frame rate do a lot for your brain? I have to admit that it really doesn't for mine. I get 97% of the value from a solid 60fps. Going above that to 90, 120, or 165 (my monitor's max rate) barely adds anything for me. I use Riva Tuner to cap my card at 120 at the system level. That's as high as I can sense any difference at all. Anything above that is just wasting electricity.
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I doubt there's going to be any games out this year that are more technically demanding than Cyberpunk. So if you're already good with how that runs, you might take a cold shower and try to wait a while longer.
I am jelly. I haven't made the upgrade to OLED yet. Still running a 32" VA Dell monitor. I like it fine for brightly colored games. It's just those dark environments where it struggles a bit. Playing in an office where I can close curtains, turn off all the lights, etc. helps.
Yeah, it subtle but once you turn it on its hard to go back. Whether its worth the several hundred to thousands dollar upgrades needed to run it, is up to the person(s). Personally I don't think PT or even RT is a worthy investment rn, unless you have cash to burn. It just kills performance. Its a nice have though. Maybe when the PS6 releases we'll have more games+hardware with RT built in mind.
The MSI 360Hz QD-OLED is $799. It's Out of stock, but with a sale you may see it under $700 sooner than you thinkg
I really like the feel of curved 32" panels, so that's what I'm waiting on. I would also consider a curved 38" UW.
I’m still struggling to hold 60 in Helldivers, TLOU, Jedi, among others. But since I got the new CPU, much less so. I’m thinking in just adrift in the YouTube to Microcenter pipeline. lolEvery time I upgrade, I hate the idea of bending the knee to Nvidia. I hate that they have a soft monopoly, and I want more consumer choice. Buuuuuut, DLSS (quality), DLAA, and now frame generation all work extremely well. Also, I've been using Nvidia cards since I got back into PC with the GTX 680 and I've never once had an issue with drivers. That whole "it just works" thing has been 100% true for me. Everyone I've talked to (more like interrogated) with AMD cards have eventually admitted they've had some issues, although they typically downplay them.
So as much as I hate to say it, if you're going to go with one of those three options, I would vote for the 4070 Ti. I don't think there's any chance the 5000 series cards will come down in price point meaningfully. We need the AI market to crash for that to happen, and if it's going to, I think it's still more than a year out.
That said, if you're getting 80fps in Cyberpunk with acceptable settings with your current hardware, what are you actually going to accomplish by getting more GPU horsepower? 120fps? Does that increase in frame rate do a lot for your brain? I have to admit that it really doesn't for mine. I get 97% of the value from a solid 60fps. Going above that to 90, 120, or 165 (my monitor's max rate) barely adds anything for me. I use Riva Tuner to cap my card at 120 at the system level. That's as high as I can sense any difference at all. Anything above that is just wasting electricity.
Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I doubt there's going to be any games out this year that are more technically demanding than Cyberpunk. So if you're already good with how that runs, you might take a cold shower and try to wait a while longer.
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- Just wanted to say thanks again to you guys (and the other guys in the thread that chimed in on the cases). Finally after a few weeks of various issues and ordering stuff and waiting for it to arrive, I finally got my new rig booting tonight. I'm knee deep in installation and updating and configuration right now, but I took some time out to try Dragon's Dogma 2 at 4k and it was just really really nice. The whole thing is insanely quiet too. The loudest the fans got was right at the beginning when I assume it was auto-benchmarking and compiling shaders. Otherwise I forget the damn thing is even on. 
This was a massive upgrade for me and the first time I built from scratch in a very very long time. I had previously been buying refurb/open box PCs and then just replacing parts that I wanted to upgrade for the past 3-4 PCs.
To give some sort of metric on how out of date I was, I was shocked to find out that there was no VGA port on the integrated graphics on the mobo. I also had no idea that a NVMe drive had its own little cubbyhole under a heat shield on gaming mobos. I kept thinking I was missing a new cable to plug it in to the sata drive ports.
I had a few numbskull moments, but for the most part it went pretty well. My biggest issues were physical locations of ports on the mobo and making it tough to get to with the case I picked, and the modular cables that came with the PSU not being long enough to reach the necessary spots. I ended up just buying a handful of extensions instead of buying the whole cable since it was like 3x as much money to get the longer cables.
I was impressed with how easy the initial setup was after installing Windows. My motherboard (Gigabyte Aorus B650) prompted me to install their proprietary app that scanned and downloaded all of the other necessary drivers. That part always use to be a huge pain in the ass in previous builds.
I can't wait to try out some games that left my old machine crying.
Well Iike that I can finally use the Nvidia app without an account.
Typical, I use the PC with the 7900X mostly for gaming, only some Unity besides that but it’s the same thing, and only a 1440p screen. Badly planned. But it’s good enough right now at least.
| Case: NZXT H7 Elite RGB (Black, Standaard (without RGB) | € 184,90 |
| Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | € 394,00 |
| Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI | € 219,90 |
| Cooling: NZXT Kraken 240 RGB (Black) | € 169,90 |
| GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER (MSI GAMING X SLIM) | € 1.199,00 |
| Memory: Kingston FURY Renegade RGB DDR5 (32GB, Black/Silver) | € 154,90 |
| SSD1: Samsung 990 PRO (2 TB) | € 189,90 |
| SSD2: Samsung 990 PRO (1 TB) | € 129,90 |
| Third SSD: None | € 0,00 |
| Power: be quiet! Dark Power 13 850W | € 254,90 |
| Cables: Lian Li Strimer Plus V2 24-pin & 16-12 | € 134,90 |
| Software: Windows 11 Pro (Dutch) | € 59,00 |
| Building costs: | € 99,00 |
Yeah its ddr5-6000
