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It Has Been Almost 2 Years Without a FPS Halo Reveal (New Record). What Is 343 up To?
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LastGamer84
Member
Nah, too busy figuring out how to cut content and hide things behind REQ packs.
People complain about Destiny 2's content, but Halo 5 was missing standard modes at launch...
Oooo!
Oooooooooo!
I know what it is!
No Warden Eternal fights...
No Prometheans...
No... Whatever that was they did to Cortana in Halo 5.
IceBringer
Banned
Hopefully they're figuring out how to bring back brutes and their weapons. I miss my maulers and spike grenades
Deliver us from evil, friend.
LordOfChaos
Member
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
I still havent even touched my copy of Halo 5. The lack of splitcreen is so disappointing. Me and my brother have played through all the hHalo games together. Glad Halo 6 will have it back.
tiredheadcrab
Member
So in terms of halo multiplayer maps, I was think 343 could just stick to a mixture of halo 2 and halo 5 maps. Some maps are built for pros and then other maps like, Zanzibar from halo 2 with vehicles and neat little environments. Id like to see the mixture in the regular slayer and team objective playlists and then stick the pro maps in an arena or pro playlist.
Also why do people keep bringing up the precursors? Are they dead or what?
Also why do people keep bringing up the precursors? Are they dead or what?
I just re-read my post. It was pretty rude because I was in a bad mood. My bad.
343's campaigns aren't awful but they do miss the mark in terms of story and direction. Maybe they try to do too much and as the pull back and cut stuff (features, dialogue, levels, etc.) the campaign suffers. Multiplayer improved in H5 but there's *too much* of a focus on making all maps and modes being hyper competitive. And of course H5 was missing a lot of MP gametypes at launch and still missing today. (There's some smaller decisions that I didn't like such as shoving Oddball & Assault under the same general ball gametype.)
Honestly, I probably won't buy Halo 6 unless 343 pivots and delivers a Bungie-style and Bungie-quality Halo game.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Hopefully, they're reinventing the focus of the campaign that they've had in the last two games. More sandbox and tactical value to the core combat, less storytime setpieces.
katsubento
Member
They are playing Destiny 2.
PersonAndStuff
Member
They've been dropping 100 Spartans on a space island.
Fine by me. Let them take their time. But.
Keep Halo 5 MP. Just fine tune it. Its already great and the best Halo MP since Halo 2
Let me play with MC most of the time.
Some sandbox SP where you can choose your own mission
Give my starting weapons more ammo. I dont want to take enemy weapons after 3 min because i ran out of ammo.
Keep Halo 5 MP. Just fine tune it. Its already great and the best Halo MP since Halo 2
Let me play with MC most of the time.
Some sandbox SP where you can choose your own mission
Give my starting weapons more ammo. I dont want to take enemy weapons after 3 min because i ran out of ammo.
Welfare
Member
Multiplayer doesn't need a year in advance for the beta as Halo 6 will be very similar to 5. We'll get a server test beta and maybe Warzone 2.0 with that.
Campaign is probably going to be the biggest evolution Halo has seen as I don't think it'll be the same linear mission to mission we've had since the beginning. They'll probably expand on the hub levels they had in Halo 5 and go in the direction Destiny is in. Hub levels with multiple things to do, while still have unique levels outside of these hubs for massive missions.
Halo 6 needs to be "New Halo" in presentation when revealed. I trust 343 to keep the gameplay excellent but how the campaign is laid out needs an overhaul. A kind of mini reboot to make Halo more appealing to the open world MMO-lite fans.
Multiplayer just needs a massive content launch. Halo 5 was extremely bare bones.
Also, this is just me, but add more things to earn through the REQ system. Bring in emotes, start of and after match animations, more unique armor, more skins for weapons, etc..
Campaign is probably going to be the biggest evolution Halo has seen as I don't think it'll be the same linear mission to mission we've had since the beginning. They'll probably expand on the hub levels they had in Halo 5 and go in the direction Destiny is in. Hub levels with multiple things to do, while still have unique levels outside of these hubs for massive missions.
Halo 6 needs to be "New Halo" in presentation when revealed. I trust 343 to keep the gameplay excellent but how the campaign is laid out needs an overhaul. A kind of mini reboot to make Halo more appealing to the open world MMO-lite fans.
Multiplayer just needs a massive content launch. Halo 5 was extremely bare bones.
Also, this is just me, but add more things to earn through the REQ system. Bring in emotes, start of and after match animations, more unique armor, more skins for weapons, etc..
... what? I think your mistaking the offer that MultiLockon got from 343i but got taken away due to his comments.
Vire is making humors with you.
Vire
Member
😘
You know, realistically what I would like to see is something similar to Destiny. Not at all in the RPG sense, but the idea of multiple planets or worlds to explore. Maybe even playable space flight sections to get in between the destinations. A seemless world as it were.
#imaginethemostexpensivegamepossible
BizzyBum
Member
Halo 6 BR confirmed.
clarknova156
Member
Maybe they could write a story that isn't boring cliche bullshit and ruin one of the best characters in the game this time around? Maybe focus on the "fun" aspect of MP and not try and sell MLG bros on your game first by having them put in shitloads of feedback for what ends up being a near dead MP competitive scene?
In the end 343 we know you can't engage us to the level Bungie did with story but if you want a long term and thriving MP scene? Make.... it.... FUN!
In the end 343 we know you can't engage us to the level Bungie did with story but if you want a long term and thriving MP scene? Make.... it.... FUN!
It makes too much sense so it wont happen.
True evil has arrived
Feel_The_Pain
Member
Just make the next halo like star wars The force awakens.
BizzyBum
Member
So retell the story of Halo 4?
Saucycarpdog
Member
No. Not the covenant again. Just because the Prometheans suck doesn't mean we should give up on doing a new enemies altogether.
Honestly, they need to start from scratch for Halo 6.
Make sure heavy aim is not there from day 1 and that the servers do not cause blank shots and the more items you get from req packs do not cause the heavy aim too.
Forge is amazing, no game on console let's you do what Forge can on an FPS game like Halo.
Theatre is horrible. It looks like every hit/snipe and beat down misses completely yet it was a kill/hit/snipe. They need to make it better. When they host the Pro League games, who wants to see someone shooting 2 meters from a spartan but kill them?
The maps are garbage. Mention Halo 1, 2, 3, Reach and I will tell you all the memorable maps it has. Halo 4 and 5 just do not have that.
Firefight is great, especially considering not everyone wants to play against players so this is a nice addition, no complaints from me.
LESS PLAYLISTS. The amount of playlists just splits the community too much. They need a competitive playlist, Team Slayer, Doubles, Free For Fall and Snipers for the ranked.
In Social they can have a few permanent ones and have one slot for a rotating playlist. No need to have around 7 playlists for social and ranked. Just too many.
Armour customization... For the love of god, they need to stop giving me the exact the same armour but with a different colour pattern. I will take 70 unique armour pieces over 140 with many duplicates.
Campaign was terrible compared to previous titles. They had me fighting the same Warden 100 times that I actually got fed up before completing the game... Halo 4, despite its issues, had a really good campaign.
There's probably more to say but that's just about a quick write up of a few things.
Make sure heavy aim is not there from day 1 and that the servers do not cause blank shots and the more items you get from req packs do not cause the heavy aim too.
Forge is amazing, no game on console let's you do what Forge can on an FPS game like Halo.
Theatre is horrible. It looks like every hit/snipe and beat down misses completely yet it was a kill/hit/snipe. They need to make it better. When they host the Pro League games, who wants to see someone shooting 2 meters from a spartan but kill them?
The maps are garbage. Mention Halo 1, 2, 3, Reach and I will tell you all the memorable maps it has. Halo 4 and 5 just do not have that.
Firefight is great, especially considering not everyone wants to play against players so this is a nice addition, no complaints from me.
LESS PLAYLISTS. The amount of playlists just splits the community too much. They need a competitive playlist, Team Slayer, Doubles, Free For Fall and Snipers for the ranked.
In Social they can have a few permanent ones and have one slot for a rotating playlist. No need to have around 7 playlists for social and ranked. Just too many.
Armour customization... For the love of god, they need to stop giving me the exact the same armour but with a different colour pattern. I will take 70 unique armour pieces over 140 with many duplicates.
Campaign was terrible compared to previous titles. They had me fighting the same Warden 100 times that I actually got fed up before completing the game... Halo 4, despite its issues, had a really good campaign.
There's probably more to say but that's just about a quick write up of a few things.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I remember halo 3 getting some backlash years later but then that stopped and people are back to loving it again, I also remember halo reach getting a lot of praise and now I'm hearing most people dislike it than anything, I also remember ODST getting shitted on and that's turned around too.
They didnt realize until after the reception to Halo 5 that people would rather play as master chief than some random character whos never been introduced before. So I doubt theyll be able to figure out what made those games great.
Next game will be probably be alternating protagonists again, but this time Locke and the Arbiter.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Making Halo 6 obv.
Warzone Firefight gives me hope for the next campaign. They've been able to push the amount of enemies on screen and mess around with encounter designs. The Golden Fleet boss is something the campaign couldve really used. Brutes coming back will also be cool. Halo 5's campaign isnt near as bad as some here believe, but it was sorely lacking in giant sandboxes with epic moments, like The Covenant from Halo 3.
Keep MP the same, add BR and Payload games. Maybe make Warzone a bit more dynamic with objectives. Drop Warzone Assault or heavily alter it. Waste of resources as is.
Warzone Firefight gives me hope for the next campaign. They've been able to push the amount of enemies on screen and mess around with encounter designs. The Golden Fleet boss is something the campaign couldve really used. Brutes coming back will also be cool. Halo 5's campaign isnt near as bad as some here believe, but it was sorely lacking in giant sandboxes with epic moments, like The Covenant from Halo 3.
Keep MP the same, add BR and Payload games. Maybe make Warzone a bit more dynamic with objectives. Drop Warzone Assault or heavily alter it. Waste of resources as is.
Jaguar Victory
Member
Keep Breakout plz. Love how tense it is.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I didnt like it at launch, but love the current variant. It feels so good.
This is what it comes down to. Someone a few posts above clearly thinks MC is core to a Halo campaign. I couldnt care less who Im playing as.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I still think halo 6 is coming out in 2018. Would be epic if we got our first announcement and teaser for the game at e3 and then they say it's releasing in November. More games should do this honestly. But if they are really doing a beta then thats not happening lol.
I think it could work very well. Especially as more Covenant or whathaveyou would land, bringing me weapon and vehicle types.
The progression could be dealt with in a million different ways than just making it an RPG
Yup. H5 launch MP was a fucking travesty. Good thing the gameplay is top notch, because only 3 game modes with no BTB and Forge was stupid.
MarauderShields
Member
Fixing MCC
Gnome Scat
Member
Hopefully they're taking their time with this one, Halo 5 overall was definitely a step up, but they've still got some issues to address with their game design. Multiplayer Arena maps were pretty mediocre, Warzone became unbalanced after a year because superior REQs dominate, the Campaign took a very disappointing direction story and character wise, level design had better arenas but still very weak vehicle segments, and Prometheans (especially Warden Eternal) are still not a compelling enemy gameplay and story wise.
A man can dream.
Lol this was exactly my thinking but you went pretty ham and all the "Wow!"s make it seem like you're being sarcastic
Except for "survival elements". What do you have in mind? I dont see how survival fits into Halo.
Lol at "fantastic story".
Halo 1 captured imaginations with its open approach to combat and traversal. A "storm in a teacup" open world strategic sandbox would be a perfect fit for that.
Uncharted are also cinematic narrative driven games and even Naughty Dog realised you can open things up more and more while sustaining that.
That said, i don't know what Cpt Lmao means by "survival elements" and i don't really see how that fits
Like Prey sans the imsim/RPG stuff. Exactly.
Nah. A lot of people (probably not the majority) feel that the series never fulfilled CE's potential and an open world action Halo would work very well. Literally just take Silent Cartographer, up the scale 10-15 times, then smash in the Flood plot line. It could be a masterpiece.
CaptainClaw
Member
The Arbiter was a "random character" but as time went people started to like him and now he's one of the most loved characters in the game...people just have a hard time with getting accustomed to new things.
I mean why can't they keep the focus still on Chief but have lets say Arbiter/Locke/Blue Team or whoever still playable and in the loop. Gears does it with Marcus/Dom/Cole and Baird as well as so many other games
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Scheming how they could further ruin a once great franchise.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Halo 6: Battle Rifles is not a game I want to think about.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
Halo karting fury. All your favorite halo characters in kart racer form.
Feel_The_Pain
Member
Nah, the first Halo.