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[FoxMcChief]

So I’m over 40 and finally feeling it. Some aches that happen if I spend all day working and not getting sleep.

I make noises when going to the ground to change a diaper, or when getting up.

I want people to leave me alone, and want to kill any creature that comes and fucks with my lawn. I’ve killed 4 gophers this year, after they fucked it up.

Then there’s these young people and their unearned sense of entitlement.

It’s a weekend thread.

 

[Hookshot]

It's because lots of liberal ideals don't work and you see them fail in real time. Then some idiot kid comes along and believes it will work so the idea is never stamped out.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Yes. Also no politics.

 

[Trogdor1123]

This is pretty normal, people usually slip in these types of things. All men eventually become Red Foreman lol.

I don’t think young people are the worst though. Just the stuff they like is. Kids, as a rule, are the same generation to generation just they slip in different models based off of society.

I love the idealism of kids. Let them keep it as long as possible before they have to deal with the weight of the world.

their music is just awful though. Holy crap is that bad.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Yes. Also no politics.

I’m not even talking about politics. I hate democrats and republicans equally. I’m more talking about just my way of life.

 

[Jaybe]

 

[Mr Reasonable]

I roll my eyes internally at the fashion, the piercings, the politics of some of the young people I meet at work, but I also like some of them and think they're funny, say interesting things, are intelligent.

I imagine it has never been any different for any generation since the 60s.

Sorry to hear about the diapers, OP, btw. Rough to need them at 40.

 

[poppabk]

So I’m over 40 and finally feeling it. Some aches that happen if I spend all day working and not getting sleep.

I make noises when going to the ground to change a diaper.

You are far too young or old to be wearing diapers.

 

[rm082e]

Young people today are not worse than young people of the past. They're different because they grew up with phones and social media. That's a thing our generation (44yo here) and everyone before us didn't have to deal with.

I've got a 15yo girl and an almost 13yo boy. I see their friends, their classmates, team mates, influencers, etc. Do they annoy me with the things they're into? Sure, but I probably annoyed the shit out of my parents when I went to school wearing a padlock chain around my neck, baggy ripped up jeans and a Dead Kennedys shirt. They didn't get my culture just like I don't get my kids culture. They're exactly what I would expect for a generation of kids who grew up with the internet.

Us Gen X and Millennials grew up and are now running the world our Boomer parents left us. We're going to see the same thing with our kids and grandkids. They have to go through their experimental phase to figure out what works, what doesn't, and who they want to be when they grow up. It will all turn out fine in the end.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I roll my eyes internally at the fashion, the piercings, the politics of some of the young people I meet at work, but I also like some of them and think they're funny, say interesting things, are intelligent.

I imagine it has never been any different for any generation since the 60s.

Sorry to hear about the diapers, OP, btw. Rough to need them at 40.

Not my diapers, lol!

My 2 year old daughter. We are going to start potty training next week.

 

[DKehoe]

Young people today are not worse than young people of the past. They're different because they grew up with phones and social media. That's a thing our generation (44yo here) and everyone before us didn't have to deal with.

I've got a 15yo girl and an almost 13yo boy. I see their friends, their classmates, team mates, influencers, etc. Do they annoy me with the things they're into? Sure, but I probably annoyed the shit out of my parents when I went to school wearing a padlock chain around my neck, baggy ripped up jeans and a Dead Kennedys shirt. They didn't get my culture just like I don't get my kids culture. They're exactly what I would expect for a generation of kids who grew up with the internet.

Us Gen X and Millennials grew up and are now running the world our Boomer parents left us. We're going to see the same thing with our kids and grandkids. They have to go through their experimental phase to figure out what works, what doesn't, and who they want to be when they grow up. It will all turn out fine in the end.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Not my diapers, lol!

I did realise!

 

[Unknown Soldier]

People who have lawns tend to be more conservative than people who don't

Still not sure if this is supposed to be a stealth political thread but oh well

 

[FoxMcChief]

People who have lawns tend to be more conservative than people who don't

Still not sure if this is supposed to be a stealth political thread but oh well

I promise you, I hate all things political. Maybe I should have said closed minded instead of conservative.

Like, there’s my way (the right way) and then there’s the wrong way (anything that isn’t my way).

 

[Wheeljack539]

So I’m over 40 and finally feeling it. Some aches that happen if I spend all day working and not getting sleep.

I make noises when going to the ground to change a diaper, or when getting up.

I want people to leave me alone, and want to kill any creature that comes and fucks with my lawn. I’ve killed 4 gophers this year, after they fucked it up.

Then there’s these young people and their unearned sense of entitlement.

It’s a weekend thread.

In short you've finally reached:

 

[FoxMcChief]

I don’t accept that this world will continue to spin after I die. How can it? I never thought that when I was younger. Like, who’s going to put up the Christmas lights or give the pets baths or groom them? See? Life everywhere ends when I die. Sucks for everyone else.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Liberal ideas are more appealing to younger people because they usually give you freedom that conservative ones don’t. So yeah, makes sense young people are drawn to it.

I blame lack of education and parenting for it being favoured by the younger generation. Telling your kids not to do something they want to is not enough, you have to explain the consequences. I find it funny that already Plato warned about it 2500 years ago and people have learned so little - and now that barely anyone reads it’s not wonder these lessons are forgotten.

 

[Blade2.0]

Older I get more left I get. Neoliberalism has destroyed this country (USA).

 

[gothmog]

At some point in your life you start steadily losing your opportunity, abilities, friends, and family. It's not surprising that you start seeing any kind of change negatively.

 

[Dacvak]

I learned SOOOO much Gen Z/alpha slang a month or two ago just so I could annoy my nieces. (They don’t use that slang, but the annoying boys in their classes do.)

im str8 bussin like a skibidi rizzler no cap fr fr, hittin that sigma grindset but lowkey vibin

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

It’s because you have stuff you don’t want to lose / don’t think you can really afford to lose.
And you’ve seen some shit, and you know how much effort it takes to get shit done.
And you know dreams and ideals don’t really pay rent nor make you a smarter, better person, and they don’t make the harsh realities of life better or easier either.
And yeah, the generational gap is real. I can’t really gel with a lot of late 20s - early 30s people either. Used to be your 20-something parents couldn’t understand you when you were a kid, but now a single decade is enough for a quantum leap in tastes, fashion, mentality and everything.
I was thinking about this these days, after working with some younger colleagues. I’m very happy I’m in that phase of life when I’m not a decrepit old geezer who can’t reach the restroom before pissing and maybe even shitting his pants, but I’m not young enough to be swindled by the latest fad or to like the latest shit in music either.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I learned SOOOO much Gen Z/alpha slang a month or two ago just so I could annoy my nieces. (They don’t use that slang, but the annoying boys in their classes do.)

im str8 bussin like a skibidi rizzler no cap fr fr, hittin that sigma grindset but lowkey vibin

 

[FoxMcChief]

I watch Gran Torino and it all just makes sense, until he befriends the kids. That’s when I remember the movie is science fiction.

 

[thefool]

it’s natural, you’ve grown wiser

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I don't think you get more conservative, it's that as you age you realize problems are not black and white, they are complex. Young people do not want that, they want clear solutions. As older folks think: "Be careful what you wish for".

 

[The Cockatrice]

Not sure what conservatism has to do with it, but yes growing older makes you grumpier. It's pretty much part of human nature. We will all become Walter Matthau And Jack Lemmon.


For those that dont know the reference:

Grumpy Old Men (1993) ⭐ 7.0 | Comedy, Drama, Romance

1h 43m | PG-13

www.imdb.com

 

[cormack12]

Bottom line is, you get older and acquire assets and go through the carousel of being your own venture capitalist putting your money into debt for what you want, that you've earned. Therefore the economy and what happens to it becomes more important.

At this point in your life, you've probably earned enough experience to understand welfare is needed and a good thing to provide, but there are people who have no interest in working. Hell even some of your colleagues have no interest in working which means you have to pick up the slack. Which, in turn, sees you generally having disdain for unions (and realising they have little power anyway) and asking that your taxes don't find their way into the hands of those who refuse to work and use welfare as a lifestyle choice.

Lastly, a lot of people will end up with loved ones, families and children and want to have a justice system that works and protects them from assholes who don't get off on shitty charges of mugging, burglary, assault etc. Which means a lean on strong law and order policies.

There's a reason why most of the old people in these 'just stop oil' and -'antifa' groups look like they have one outfit, share a barber they see once every 3 years and have nothing to do on random Tuesdays.

 

[Drake]

I find with most things in life the answer lies somewhere in the middle. The problem is that now anything considered "the center" is now labeled as far right.

 

[AlphaDump]

Being a parent humbles you quickly, not age imo. It doesn't make me bitter but more intuned with what I need to fundamentally protect or uphold in terms of values.

It's important to not become a bitter asshole.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

People trend to be more conservative the older they get. On the other hand, young people trend liberal.

When you're young, got nothing but still think youre the smartest person in the world at 21 years old, you think everyone (parents, fam, work, gov) owes you the best job, money, free rent and student loans cancelled. At that stage you want as much free shit as possible off other people's backs and be as free as a bird (legalize drugs).

When you get old, you've been slogging it for decades at a job, paying bills, taxes, and having a fam. You realize the last thing you want is to give away more taxes and have losers get more free shit off your hardworking ass for 20 years. And when it comes to retirement age after grinding it for 40 years in the work force, the last thing you want are deadbeats taking your pension, losing healthcare perks, paying more taxes etc.... because you did your time working. It's time to relax, keep what you worked for and let the others work their asses to earn it. You want to give away as little free shit to others because you dont want to die broke or have your kids get nothing.

I dont have kids, but once you buy your first home and car with monthly mortgage and car loan payments, and other bills on top of it, it's a big wake up call. You look back at how easy it was to coast under mom and dad.

I cant even imagine how much more responsibility it is having kids, since I dont have any. I''m just the fun uncle my nieces and nephews see every month for a few hours and I buy them shit to make them happy. But if youre a good parent, I assume you want a combo of good family/kids liberal gov perks (expense deductions), but also want kids to have good values and not do wacky stuff (conservative views).

 

[Punished Miku]

Only people that don't understand what they're talking about as a young adult radically shift in their 40s. Its more of an indication of a life of shallow analysis focused mostly on themselves and little else.

 

[AJUMP23]

Churchill said “when I was young I was liberal because I had a heart, I became conservative because I had a brain.”

I probably never had a heart because I have always been conservative.

 

[Burning Blade]

I’m 44 now, this flag just seems appropriate.

 

[ConkerTheSquirrel.]

I tend to empathize with younger people, but only if they're open-minded enough to learn from their mistakes.

 

[Mattdaddy]

 

[SJRB]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Churchill said “when I was young I was liberal because I had a heart, I became conservative because I had a brain.”

I probably never had a heart because I have always been conservative.

Haha. For me, I've always been somewhere in the middle because I am hard left or hard right pending the topic. But for some popular hot topics, I've always been dead set at this:

Left - Universal healthcare (doesn't have to be 100%, Canada isnt), but close enough for the big stuff covered. Most health issues I believe are bad luck and people shouldnt be burned on that
Left - If there's any big taxes being spent, I will always support good schools and teachers because I believe all kids should have a chance at a good education
Right - Harsh on crime. Were talking hardcore shit you hear about if you do bad stuff in Singapore. I got zero tolerance for bad apples fucking up the city
Right - Small gov and low taxes. Cut out useless gov workers and bad spending. And funnel that to the above. Re-train redundant gov workers for private sector

If all things go well, you got smart, healthy people who dont do crime. And a gov in a budget surplus. It's utopia I know. But it can happen. Singapore hits all the notes.

 

[ConkerTheSquirrel.]

im str8 bussin like a skibidi rizzler no cap fr fr, hittin that sigma grindset but lowkey vibin

Is there something wrong with me? I'm 33, and I understood everything you said.

 

[Dacvak]

Is there something wrong with me? I'm 33, and I understood everything you said.

 

[jason10mm]

People who have lawns tend to be more conservative than people who don't

Still not sure if this is supposed to be a stealth political thread but oh well

This is a reflection on property owners versus renters.

When you OWN you have an investment, a tie to the land, a commitment.

When you rent you are just a transient.

Nothing is worse than when property owners agree to dumb shit...so long as it ain't in THIER backyard!

 

[Rockondevil]

Not my diapers, lol!

My 2 year old daughter. We are going to start potty training next week.

Found the problem. Shouldn’t have had a kid so old. I had mine in my late 20’s and they was pushing it. They age you.

But yes to the young people thing. All new generations are worse than the previous.

 

[Kraz]

I was far more conservative when I was younger with myopic thinking that I succeeded only due to my own effort, and not the result of the support of the rest of civilization. Greedy and isolationist. Then as I developed intellectually and expanded my experience the importance of community and supporting one another to reduce distress, importance of regulation, oversight to avoid corruption, and social liberalism preserving quality of life and the environment for the future. It's become clear these are the things that bring success and peace to the most people immediately while leaving something worth preserving for the future.

 

[MaestroMike]

The older I get the more I realize I need to be cool calm and relaxed can’t let little things stress you out. be hydrated eating fresh produce and drinking liquids throughout the day and let the blood flow through out your body more easily

 

[Jsisto]

Bet

 

[Dacvak]

I learned SOOOO much Gen Z/alpha slang a month or two ago just so I could annoy my nieces. (They don’t use that slang, but the annoying boys in their classes do.)

im str8 bussin like a skibidi rizzler no cap fr fr, hittin that sigma grindset but lowkey vibin

Lmaoooo I’m opening presents from my nieces and I got counter-trolled

Spoiler

The joke will be on them when I show up to their school musical wearing this in a couple months

 

[FoxMcChief]

Found the problem. Shouldn’t have had a kid so old. I had mine in my late 20’s and they was pushing it. They age you.

But yes to the young people thing. All new generations are worse than the previous.

I’ve got 3 daughters (15, 6 & 2), two of them autistic.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Lmaoooo I’m opening presents from my nieces and I got counter-trolled

Spoiler

The joke will be on them when I show up to their school musical wearing this in a couple months

That picture hurts my old brain.

 

[Billbofet]

My daughter (17) is very conservative-slant and not from my influence, for the most part. It gives me hope for the future as it is more based on common sense and observational learning vs. social media bullshit. My only influence has been doing my best to limit her social media intake. I am as center as it gets.

 

[jason10mm]

My daughter (17) is very conservative-slant and not from my influence, for the most part. It gives me hope for the future as it is more based on common sense and observational learning vs. social media bullshit. My only influence has been doing my best to limit her social media intake. I am as center as it gets.

It's only natural for the new generation to just reflexively go against the gen before them. What could be seen as a "return to traditional values" by us dying old folk will be the "hip new revolution!" by the kiddies against their danger haired parents.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

It seems that most people become more conservative as they get older. Some people become more liberal but in general it seems people get more conservative and that's pretty normal so I wouldn't worry about it.