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Japan Monthly Charts: March 2006 (2/27 - 3/28)
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I was going to comment on the same thing. Media Create had Yawaraka Atamajuku at 1,043,298 as of Jan 22/06, whereas Famitsu had it at 1,109,928 as of Jan 22/06. So Famitsu was tracking the game about 65,000 units higher than Media Create. For March, it looks as though Media Create probably had Yawaraka at about 55,000 - 60,000 for the month, compared to just over 20,000 for Famitsu. So basically, it appears as though Famitsu just kind of slowed down its tracking a bit in order to bring it more it line with where Media Create is at. Of course, it could also be the opposite - that Media Create accelerated its sales for the game this month in order to get closer to Famitsu.Rock_Man said:That´s around 5k per week and outside the top 30 even though both Medica Create and Dengeki reported much higher chart positions. Could it be that Famitsu lower the numbers on purpose to make the LTD number match what Nintendos has shipped?? Since I think Famitsus total is too high.
Did they learn these methods from ioi?
That's probably just weird coincidence, but I've seen it happen with several games over the past few months. The most notable example was Tamogotchi, where Media Create was tracking the game much higher (in the area of 100,000 or so) than Famitsu for the first few months, and then all of a sudden, Famitsu sales for the game just spiked to a really weird level for several weeks, and closed the gap, and even pulled ahead of Media Create. It makes me wonder if Nintendo or other companies don't periodically contact either Famitsu or Media Create (or vice versa) to update them from time to time with their own internal numbers on certain games. It's just interesting to follow, because the vast majority of the time, Famitsu and Media Create track very closely together - and then it is weird when you do see the odd examples where there is a sizable discrepancy, and then all of a sudden several months down the road, the discrepancy ends up being resolved within just a few weeks anyway.
I remember reading this article a while back, which states that Bandai Namco Games was supposed to open its doors on March 31/06.Fuzzy said:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/680/680761p1.html
Code:
01 DC 7,127 7,127 Grev/Sega Under Defeat
01 GC 16,722 151,585 Nintendo Super Mario Strikers
02 GC 8,082 20,430 Nintendo Baten Kaitos II
03 GC 7,311 429,675 Nintendo Mario Party 7
01 GBA 21,400 43,586 Konami Yugioh: Duel Monsters EX 2006
02 GBA 19,260 1,139,093 Nintendo Famicom Mini Super Mario Brothers
03 GBA 17,728 17,728 Sting Yggdra Union
04 GBA 15,324 683,773 Pokemon Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Aka no Kyuujotai
05 GBA 15,130 565,106 Capcom Rockman EXE 6 Graygar / Faltzer
06 GBA 14,965 14,965 Banpresto Crayon Shinchan: Shock Gaun
07 GBA 14,489 14,489 Square Enix Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Ultimate Hits)
08 GBA 11,931 1,719,968 Pokemon Pokemon Emerald
09 GBA 11,068 11,068 Marvelous Mahou Sensei Negima! Private Lesson 2
10 GBA 9,561 22,368 Nintendo MOTHER 1 + 2 (Value Selection)
11 GBA 9,104 2,617,986 Pokemon Pokemon FireRed + Leaf Green
12 GBA 8,499 8,499 Banpresto Ueki no Housoku Shinki Sakuretsu!
13 GBA 7,778 209,659 Square Enix Final Fantasy IV Advance
01 PSP 113,546 113,546 Square Enix Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
02 PSP 77,421 564,088 Capcom Monster Hunter Portable
03 PSP 30,820 82,562 Sega Initial D Street Stage
04 PSP 29,419 29,419 Daito Giken Daito Giken Koushiki Pachislot Simulator
05 PSP 19,282 116,793 SCE TALKMAN
06 PSP 17,474 17,474 SCE Derby Time 2006
07 PSP 15,786 15,786 Sega Sakura Taisen 1 & 2
08 PSP 13,383 275,937 Sega Nouryoku Trainer Portable
09 PSP 13,349 13,349 Koei Shin Sangoku Musou 2nd Evolution
10 PSP 13,027 27,478 SCE Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner
11 PSP 12,598 12,598 Konami Eyeshield 21: Portable Edition
12 PSP 10,762 21,707 Konami Genso Suikoden I & II
13 PSP 10,366 17,530 Namco Namco Museum Vol. 2
14 PSP 9,614 9,614 Konami Mahjong Fight Club (PSP The Best)
15 PSP 8,370 115,608 SCE Minna no Golf Portable (PSP The Best)
16 PSP 7,237 7,237 Spike Pursuit Force
01 PS2 2,057,835 2,057,835 Square Enix Final Fantasy XII: The Exodus of Bebpo
02 PS2 228,925 529,969 Koei Sengoku Musou 274,316
03 PS2 224,486 224,486 Bandai Kidou Senshi Gundam: Climax UC
04 PS2 117,390 117,390 Namco Ace Combat Zero: The Predictions Soar
05 PS2 79,578 543,079 Capcom Monster Hunter 2 (Dos)
06 PS2 77,693 77,693 Atlus Devil Summoner
07 PS2 53,542 53,542 Koei Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Empires
08 PS2 51,286 173,712 Konami Genso Suikoden V
09 PS2 38,792 123,644 Konami World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 Bonus Pack
10 PS2 37,165 134,621 Nippon Ichi Disgaea 2
11 PS2 33,621 33,621 Koei Harukanaru Jikuu no Uchi de 3
12 PS2 29,414 29,414 Capcom Capcom Classics Collection
13 PS2 27,905 27,905 Sega Tenkabito
14 PS2 23,767 53,216 Capcom Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition
15 PS2 22,136 22,136 Konami Guitar Freaks V and Drum Mania V
16 PS2 21,801 21,801 Konami Popp'n Music 12 Iroha
17 PS2 20,923 20,923 Koei Neo Angelique
18 PS2 18,323 247,400 Daito Giken Daito Giken Koushiki Pachislot Simulator Osu!
19 PS2 16,911 16,911 Konami Mahou Sensei Negima! Dokidoki Beachside
20 PS2 15,475 15,475 EA 007: Russia yori Ai wo Komete
21 PS2 14,028 14,028 Media Works Shakugan no Shana
22 PS2 13,805 485,013 Square Enix Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
23 PS2 12,575 12,575 Kid Memories Off ~Sorekara again~
24 PS2 11,824 11,824 Genki Ninkyouden: Toseinin Ichidaki
25 PS2 11,752 320,396 Capcom Shin Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams
26 PS2 11,276 82,995 Square Enix Final Fantasy X (Ultimate Hits)
27 PS2 10,999 81,997 Koei Nobunaga no Yabou: Kakushin
28 PS2 10,239 59,504 SCE Bleach: Hanatareshi Yabou
29 PS2 9,792 9,792 Koei Winning Post 7 Maximum 2006
30 PS2 9,772 107,304 SCE Tourist Trophy
31 PS2 8,971 1,105,650 Square Enix Kingdom Hearts II
32 PS2 8,786 78,785 SCE Siren 2
33 PS2 8,372 15,762 Koei Warship Gunner 2
34 PS2 8,242 8,242 Bandai Dragon Ball Z3 (PS2 The Best)
35 PS2 8,089 38,747 SCE Siren (PS2 The Best)
36 PS2 7,561 7,561 Sega Jissen Pachislot: Ultraman Club ST
37 PS2 7,309 39,032 Interchannel CLANNAD
38 PS2 7,306 7,306 D3 Publisher Simple 2000 Series Vol. 93: The Unou Drill
01 DS 372,348 2,347,363 Nintendo Animal Crossing:
02 DS 356,916 1,695,755 Nintendo Brain Training 2
03 DS 217,370 1,855,550 Nintendo Brain Training
04 DS 189,314 189,314 Nintendo Pokemon Ranger: Diamond and Pearl e-no Michi
05 DS 181,115 660,193 Nintendo English Training
06 DS 179,194 179,194 Square Enix Seiken Densetsu DS: Children of Mana
07 DS 80,045 1,212,185 Nintendo Mario Kart DS
08 DS 36,175 1,177,569 Nintendo Nintendogs (Shiba + Drinky + Chihuahua)
09 DS 34,430 1,037,006 Bandai Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisetchi
10 DS 34,084 34,084 Sega Doraemon: Nobita no Kyouryuu 2006 DS
11 DS 32,912 471,928 Nintendo Dare Demo Asobi Taizen
12 DS 24,499 59,631 Namco Machigai Museum
13 DS 23,812 90,550 Nintendo Eyeshield 21 MAX DEVIL POWER
14 DS 22,216 22,216 Bandai Chou Gekijouban Keroro Gunsou
15 DS 21,949 1,203,807 Nintendo Yawaraka Atamajuku
16 DS 20,237 361,612 Nintendo Mario & Luigi RPG 2
17 DS 19,770 19,770 Nintendo Puzzloop
18 DS 19,031 708,737 Pokemon Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Ao no Kyuujotai
19 DS 16,965 930,057 Nintendo Sawaru Made in Wario
20 DS 15,766 884,054 Nintendo Super Mario 64 DS
21 DS 14,190 76,323 Sega BLEACH DS
22 DS 10,584 273,596 Square Enix Slime Morimori Dragon Quest II
23 DS 9,422 245,802 Bandai Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Ressen
24 DS 9,419 163,061 Sega Mushiking: Greatest Champion e-no Michi DS
25 DS 9,256 280,707 Pokemon Pokemon Trozei
26 DS 8,541 16,618 TDK Core Choco Inu no Omise Patyshe and Sweets Shop Game
27 DS 7,902 77,708 Marvelous Harvest Moon: Corobockle Station for Girls
28 DS 7,719 526,843 Nintendo Jump Superstars
29 DS 7,250 106,057 Konami Power Pro Kun Pocket 8Totals for top 100
Code:
PS2 3,377,666
NDS 1,982,431
PSP 402,454
GBA 176,237
NGC 32,115
SDC 7,127
Xbox 360 000,000Katana_Strikes
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Dalthien said:
Looks like Media Create is right about this one at least. Yawaraka Atamajuku must have sold better in March. It doesn't make sense that it follows the sales pattern of the original brain training closely for seven months and then goes down to zero when bt still sells in large amounts. The graph bellow shows weekly sales according to Famitsu, where interpolation is used for Yawaraka (Gentle BE) in March.
Rock_Man said:
I agree completely with this point of view.
The difference is that instead of being able to go back like I can and just adjust all the Everything and Nothing figures to match (Brain Flex is the first game in a long time with a scale factor I have used of less than 1- it's about 0.97) then they have to make adjustments another way since they have been simply overtracking the title by quite a large amount and have already officially published their previous charts. Do people at least begin to believe me now that the supposedly crazy methods I use to post-adjust data when we have more information is all that different to what these tracking services would do themselves if they could?
As I'm sure you would expect, I think my figures for Brain Flex are a fairer reflection of sales trends so far, as they do not have this huge drop off in Mar as you have also spotted (I have been wondering about this myself for a few weeks now) and tie in more closely with the actual shipped figures:
http://www.everythingandnothing.org.uk/vg/japgamewk.php?name=Brain+Flex
JoshuaJSlone said:
I don't get what you want to do but I can answer your question. Through March 26:
# DS first party = 34
# DS third party = 131
Total number of DS games = 165
# PSP first party = 30
# PSP third party = 133
Total number of PSP games = 163
(re-releases not counted)
Rock_Man said:
Well I think what he is trying to do is get a better feel for the "unaccounted" games. If for example there were 30 Nintendo games in the top 100 (there are only 17) then it would only mean 4 below 100 so they would likely not occupy the same kind of ratio as the Nintendo/third party split we get from the top 100.
It's one of these things we will probably never know JJS, to be honest I'd be inclined to say about a 50-50 split even though from Rock_Man's data we'd have around 120 third party to 17 first party DS games below 100k the Nintendo titles do tend to perform better.
If you wanted to investigate further it would probably be easier to try to estimate the 17 Nintendo games and take the total from that from the total unaccounted which could be done with a reasonable accuracy, and would probably be the best way you'd have of estimating the data you want.
For example, Princess Peach has been tracking about 80% of Pokemon Trozei so I'd expect it to be just off that chart, about 7k, Kirby's Canvas has been hanging around the bottom of the top 100 as well, so about another 6k for that, while titles like Another Code, Polarium etc have dropped right away and will be sub 1k by now (you can get an idea from E&N as to which games have dropped right off based on the yearly data we had for 2005 and the extrapolation through the later months that was done to match up with the totals which in many cases weren't much higher than when the games dropped off the charts back in say march of that year or whatever).
That should certainly give you a fair idea when accounting for the Nintendo titles as all of them should be included.