Nice job!
I played the localization [Rune Story], and it's...not the best. I know it's a heavily butchered version though, as I've heard nothing but good things about WCP.
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Japanese Mobile Gacha Games: Gatcha hand on your wallet and I'm never letting go!
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Rune story is like a different game compare to shironeko. They cut the story and many good things about the original game
I know, it's really unfortunate. It's a shame how much potential was lost with the localization.
Honestly, if I knew more Japanese I'd probably give WCP a try, but since I don't know an extensive amount, I'd be missing out on a lot of the story/character dialogue, hence why I haven't started it. They couldn't even give us the 2D portraits/art. :/
I like gacha games but it seems the ones most likely to capture me do music (as rhythm gameplay, or maybe as theme) well. Dropped a few, have a few on regular rotation, pre-reg'd to more. Not counting im@s Starlight Stage, which is discussed elsewhere, Tokyo 7th Sisters and Show By Rock!! (SB69) are my mainstays, I'm quite into them and I guess I'm posting kinda wondering who else here plays them? im@s SideM I've also been playing almost daily to see what I can get out of it, and I guess I have gotten past the tutorial and a bunch of pulls in Ensemble Stars. I admittedly sometimes try things just because I like a certain seiyuu.
dakkumauji
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Cosmo Clock 21
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SB69 was really fun in concept except for the fact that they expected you to use three fingers which was ridiculously uncomfortable.
Spent a few hours today grinding out 250 gems for a 10 pull in Bleach. Ended up with 4 4* and 6 3*.
Sucks that they can't ever be evolved to 5*.
Burned through all my free tickets only to find that the energy system has to be the least generous of any gacha I've played. 5 energy max with a 50 minute full recharge? That's basically 7 mins of gameplay per 50 minutes.
Then I took a look at the upgrade trees and ascension mechanics, and holy hell, this game is grind city, and what's even the point of going out of my way on these 4* units when I'd trash them in a second the moment I'd get any 5* units.
I'll stick with gacha games that are actually satisfying and fair in their gacha models, like Brave Frontier, where every premium summon can evolve all the way 6*, and most to 7*.
Sucks that they can't ever be evolved to 5*.
Burned through all my free tickets only to find that the energy system has to be the least generous of any gacha I've played. 5 energy max with a 50 minute full recharge? That's basically 7 mins of gameplay per 50 minutes.
Then I took a look at the upgrade trees and ascension mechanics, and holy hell, this game is grind city, and what's even the point of going out of my way on these 4* units when I'd trash them in a second the moment I'd get any 5* units.
I'll stick with gacha games that are actually satisfying and fair in their gacha models, like Brave Frontier, where every premium summon can evolve all the way 6*, and most to 7*.
Couldnt install Bleach on my phone so i downloaded it on my iPad. Managed to get Jushiro 4* and Retsu 5* yesterday. Dont know how good Retsu is compared to the other 5* - she seems more of a support unit.
PS. The games looks better than expected in HD on the iPad - kinda surprised me.
PS. The games looks better than expected in HD on the iPad - kinda surprised me.
Iirc She is a healer, which might come in Handy in coop and Late Game.
The Game Looks gorgerous on my 6s+. Just Look at the street mirrors <3
Cool - how does coop work...do you need facebook/line or whatever ? Havent checked it yet.
And yeah the game looks great - even with the simple look the resolution and colors are great. Kinda made me realize how awesome 3DS games could look in HD.
I actually like the Soul Ticket mechanic. Every mission costs the same, so you don't need to worry about a Super Hard quest taking up half of your stamina to run. Early on, it might seem like a waste, but once you reach the higher levels where Missions are more advanced/difficult with higher pay-outs, it'll start leaning in your benefit.
No evolution(s) is disappointing, although the game young, even in Japan. It's possible we might get it later on, along with expanded character customization trees. At least, that's the hope.
3/4* units, if you're not going to use them, are still useful for ascension fodder for your 5* units since they give more XP than standard level fodder. Don't sell them!
I do agree that they need to work on their gatcha system. Having 5* be as rare as they are (3%, I heard), along with basically needing them for the later Missions (due to the difficult), means some people could eventually hit a wall that they can't overcome, unless they started with a few nice 5* (this is why I recommend re-rolling for one just in case) or get lucky along the way. It's the same situation in DBZ: Dokkan Battle actually, where SR are decent but to do the truly hardcore stuff you need awakened SSR/LR. If you don't get them via the gatcha, you're in for a rough time. What I'd like to see is a guaranteed 5*/SSR for every 10-pull. Given how expensive they are, as well as no guarantee that you'll get the 5*/SSR that you're after, people will still likely pull multiple times and/or reach into their wallet, and at least they will definitely see something "useable" out of their purchase.
I know, I doubt it'll ever happen.
You don't need LINE or anything, just hit Co-Op, make a room yourself or join a random one, and off you go. It can be laggy though, at least that's been my experience. It might be better for the host, I'm not entirely sure.
I agree, the game looks nicer than I thought it would, especially the special animations.
Hentailover
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So, people playing Grand Order probably know already, but still. this is kinda hilarious:
I dunno if the fact that Saber Lily is terrible stat wise makes it more or less amusing.
Hunh, well apparently I had let this game DL on my second device and forgot about it yesterday (SINCE IT TAKES SO LONG), so I finish the tutorial and rolled one last time, and got the focus 5* Uryu for Brave Souls. Second pull was a 3* Shunsui to go with 3* Chad starting pull.
Should I keep this account, or continue on with my 3*Rukia/4* Rangiku/4*Kisuke?
Should I keep this account, or continue on with my 3*Rukia/4* Rangiku/4*Kisuke?
Buster Machine
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That Bleach BS/White Cat comparison was way more accurate than I thought it'd be. Seems really similar outside of pvp (which is always a red flag for me in these games), somehow being even more grindy, a worse gacha rate, and a worse rate of free premium currency. Don't know why I bothered in the first place since I hate Bleach.
Yeah - I largely agree with you. The ticket system in this game seems completely bizarre.
You are being a little hard on it, though - the daily rewards make up for the lack of a growing Stamina bar. Completing 5 PVP battles gave me 5x soul tickets. Completing those 10 Story battles gave me 5 more PVP tickets. I've been auto-battling for literally 45 minutes this morning and I still haven't completely drained all my tickets.
But yeah, the weird thing about this ticket system is that it punishes you for going back to old content. Weird.
Nice. I doubt I have a full grasp on SideM yet, I haven't paid for anything yet, I get ranking Rs. But now Beit is in gacha, compelling me to go for SR chance tickets at least. Great cards this event.
I did use three fingers on one hand for the longest time, then I got lazy and now use my left thumb and right index+middle (which is actually the official recommended way). It's much easier. When's the last time you played?
T7S you can really only use thumbs since it's a two-button rhythm game.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Sometime before the anime got announced, I lost all my apps in a failed iOS update and couldn't be assed to start over again.
I think I tried that layout at one point but couldn't get used to it.
dakkumauji
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yep great cards, but the worst gatcha system and the worst kind of event so all I can do is admire them
Keep it. 5* are so much better than 4* in this game, it's worth trading two 4* for a single 5*.
That sucks. That may have been before the username and password system they implemented?
How's it the worst kind of event? But yeah the gacha system is unfair.
dakkumauji
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to rank and get a copy of the SR(top 1k) you basically need megaphones and the game barely gives you that many megaphones
for every other event (live, bingo), you can easily amass event ap bars doing premium lives/extreme lives that will provide a bit of a loop where you won't be burning through your stock of items as you keep getting expendable items
It won't be a separate server, they're just adding an English language option. You'll still be on the same account.
I'm just curious as to whether they'll make the app available on the NA app stores, as well as give you the option to purchase currency with our standard credit cards. Probably not, since it's still technically a Japanese release, but it seems like a waste not to do so when everything is already translated. But I guess copyright on all of the VO and all that probably has something to do with that.
I'd say the spear would be nice to have for wind affinity. I managed to get the Calow summon/weapon, and ifrit summon so far. Hopefully I can get the weapon before deadline.
That said, I currently can clear Very hard if I have the right friend summon for Ifrit and Calow, but I don't have a SSR for fire/wind right now, so no such luck on Sag.
Snakethesniper
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I'm always intrigued by this kind of game, played PAD for a little then had to format my iphone and lost all the progress even if I had the relative code, stopped playing then.
The other problem I have is that all those new gatcha games like DBZ and stuff, even if they're 2d sprites lag on my old iphone 4.
The other problem I have is that all those new gatcha games like DBZ and stuff, even if they're 2d sprites lag on my old iphone 4.
theMrCravens
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The wind spear (comes auto at 3*) + silver tablet thing to upgrade to 4* are pretty godly.
A whopping 45k points total though.
The difference from Ifrit event is that it doesn't require crazy firepower.
Fast join 1 BP Zephyros raid (it becomes 1 BP when near dead), and do a few hits.
Wait, so I don't have to get that spear 4 times to upgrade it to 3*? That's pretty cool. But wait, the wiki said that it is recommended to get the dagger. What's so good about it? It doesn't even have any skill
Mike Zhang
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The dagger does have a skill, which increases your contribution point in a multi-battle, which is very important in guild war events
The Harp is also useful, it has EXP+ skill
Granblue.
If you are relatively new player as me I don't recommend to mindlessly grind 45k points. This spear is very good but for new players this event has better cheaper items to grab.
First of all get all AP pots. They are so cheap and very useful. Then grab all gold certs for 2500pts each and lb4 your best SSR. Also don't miss 10k gold only for 250pts you need it for limit breaking all your first SSRs. There are 10 stacks of gold avaliable. Lastly grab all 5 silver certs.
If you are relatively new player as me I don't recommend to mindlessly grind 45k points. This spear is very good but for new players this event has better cheaper items to grab.
First of all get all AP pots. They are so cheap and very useful. Then grab all gold certs for 2500pts each and lb4 your best SSR. Also don't miss 10k gold only for 250pts you need it for limit breaking all your first SSRs. There are 10 stacks of gold avaliable. Lastly grab all 5 silver certs.
I tried the Star Wars gacha and it's not good... (yes, it's not japanese, but it's still a gacha)
pros:
- it's star wars
- audio is amazing, the sfx are on-point and music is classic star wars
- looks great, and it doesn't stutter much (rarely it does but I'm running it on a Nexus 5 and it's still very smooth overall except some lag in the menus) it's actually very friendly to your battery.
- has decent customization options, tons of characters and abilities.
now the bad stuff
- to get a new character you need to collect shards (some take ridiculous amount of shards for example: Darth Vader needs 80 shards)
- the above is not a problem if you could farm nodes that drop those shards, but that's not the case after farming a node 3 times you get hit with a 20 hours cooldown, yep 20 fucking hours. And it's not like you get the shard everytime you farm a node, nope, it's all rng. so if you farmed a node 3 times and didn't get a single character shard then tough shit, wait 20 hours. Unless you spend the premium currency obviously to reset the CD.
- the game doesn't give you that much of those crystals (the premium currency) you get them as rewards for everything... but you get 10-20, to do a pull of a single unit you need over 300 of them, to make a even bigger pull you need over 1k of those.
- so basically you are stuck with the same party for a long time.
- leveling up your character is a massive grind, in one piece treasure cruise it's as simple as gathering fodder units or turtles and feeding those to the good units. In this game you need to farm 6 different pieces of equipment to increase stats and farm character shards to increase an unit's rank. Just too much of a grind specially when nodes have CDs already, on top of a stamina meter.
shame because I like the aesthetics and the battles themselves are fairly strategic but the F2P model is garbage.
pros:
- it's star wars
- audio is amazing, the sfx are on-point and music is classic star wars
- looks great, and it doesn't stutter much (rarely it does but I'm running it on a Nexus 5 and it's still very smooth overall except some lag in the menus) it's actually very friendly to your battery.
- has decent customization options, tons of characters and abilities.
now the bad stuff
- to get a new character you need to collect shards (some take ridiculous amount of shards for example: Darth Vader needs 80 shards)
- the above is not a problem if you could farm nodes that drop those shards, but that's not the case after farming a node 3 times you get hit with a 20 hours cooldown, yep 20 fucking hours. And it's not like you get the shard everytime you farm a node, nope, it's all rng. so if you farmed a node 3 times and didn't get a single character shard then tough shit, wait 20 hours. Unless you spend the premium currency obviously to reset the CD.
- the game doesn't give you that much of those crystals (the premium currency) you get them as rewards for everything... but you get 10-20, to do a pull of a single unit you need over 300 of them, to make a even bigger pull you need over 1k of those.
- so basically you are stuck with the same party for a long time.
- leveling up your character is a massive grind, in one piece treasure cruise it's as simple as gathering fodder units or turtles and feeding those to the good units. In this game you need to farm 6 different pieces of equipment to increase stats and farm character shards to increase an unit's rank. Just too much of a grind specially when nodes have CDs already, on top of a stamina meter.
shame because I like the aesthetics and the battles themselves are fairly strategic but the F2P model is garbage.
Yeah, I gave the Star Wars gacha game a very fair shake. Probably about 20 hours logged into it. It's way too poorly monetized for me to ever spend a dime, and the battles get very bland, even to the eyes.
I wish they went for a simple, pixel art approach with some cartoon styling than this sterile look.
I wish they went for a simple, pixel art approach with some cartoon styling than this sterile look.
I think I'm going to give up on POTK, as well. It's a decent enough game, but I'm really starting to hate the growth rates in it. All of my best 5* units are hit with poor growth rates 90% of the time, and I can't do anything about it. Even IF you get a decent growth rate, you have to hope the game gives you points where you need it. This isn't Fire Emblem, where you can switch/reset jobs and keep building your stat points, the only way in POTK is Reincarnation, which costs a lot of Rare Medals and doesn't even let you keep the stats of your previous leveling.
There's just too much RNG in POTK. Got the rare unit from the gatcha you've been wanting? Nice! But wait, let's check the type...YES! Perfect type! Now, let's level this unit up!
*gets +1.5 stat growth per level*
....
You literally have to get lucky three times in a row for a great unit. Need to pull it to begin with, then need to hope it's the best type for it [not physical attack for healer, for example], and then you have to be lucky enough for it to have a nice stat growth. That's just too much for me. In gatcha games, if you get a unit from the gatcha that should be the end of your struggle, not the beginning.
That art. <3
theMrCravens
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GBF is amping up the purtiness with their last few character art.
I want!
Not sure that dagger is really worth it over the other stuff, unless you don't need anything.
I wonder if you can stack its effect though.
JP wiki strongly recommend to grab that dagger.
I have finished celestial event. Grabbed all AP pots and the 1st stack of BP, 10k pts dagger, all archangel weapons, 100k gold, 5 silver and 3 gold certs. Very good haul I think.
Also my Ifrit is lb3 and his weapon lb3 too. I couldn't clear extreme and didn't bother to collect 100 golden anima for lb4.
I have finished celestial event. Grabbed all AP pots and the 1st stack of BP, 10k pts dagger, all archangel weapons, 100k gold, 5 silver and 3 gold certs. Very good haul I think.
Also my Ifrit is lb3 and his weapon lb3 too. I couldn't clear extreme and didn't bother to collect 100 golden anima for lb4.
theMrCravens
Member
I think someone posted some a few pages back.
The one from the English written guide is indeed outdated.
It's not too hard if you need help. I was able to help Negator out when he streamed it lol.
Yep, thats exactly it, having to get through three layers of RNG before you can start leveling/evolving the unit is just too much.
How!? Are you farming the vhard seiryu? I'm barely at 10k from about an hour ago. Although I didn't really get to play at all yesterday due to work.
Dagger is automatic +10% to event points (forgot if it's both the guild event + regular event or not). Until you're at a point where you can fill an element w/ SSR Slv10 weapons you might as well have it in there to boost your contribution.
Archangel weaps are cheap, I'd recommend getting them as well and leave it in your present box unless you got a pressing need for em.
Archangel weaps are cheap, I'd recommend getting them as well and leave it in your present box unless you got a pressing need for em.
Extreme or Extreme+. Usually when I start Extreme I open it to public at once and try to get as much points as I can then I wait for strong players. Or I join Extreme+ fights near the end and just poke it to get rewards.
Its not enough to level up dagger to lvl 100.
D: Not rank 50 yet to do extreme :/ I've only been doing multi battles mainly too, against Seiryu and Zephryos.
It seems like the best thing I've seen so far are the angelic halo dungeons.