Ehh..not really. I mean, NSMB U is going to dwarf anything PS3 releases.
Wii U's biggest competition initially will probably be the 3DS.
Japanese Sales: 2012 Jul 02 - Jul 08
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Ehh..not really. I mean, NSMB U is going to dwarf anything PS3 releases.
Wii U's biggest competition initially will probably be the 3DS.
Redesigned and cheaper were not a factor in the PSP vs. 3DS battle. PSP's MSRP is actually more expensive than 3DS in Japan IIRC.
metalslimer
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Pretty much. The PS3 selling 10-15k week isn't really what I'd call competition. The PSP was selling like 30k+ with big software releases left. After Resident Evil 6 and ToX2 the PS3 is pretty much done.
Not originally which is what we are talking about here.
3DS and the dead corpse of the PSP/Vita combo will probably bury the home consoles for a few years in Japan, if not permanently. Nintendo will still get theirs with 2D Mario and other mainstays but I could see Japanese console gaming going even further underground in the next few years especially if a majority of 3rd parties decide that 3DS is good enough graphically.
BishopLamont
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Price is meaningless without the software, Nintendo's firsty party is enough to drive Wii U's numbers higher than PS3's. If third party support on PS3 was so good, it'd be selling bigger numbers right now. The PS3 is still experiencing the "big release boost syndrome" where it sells decently on weeks with new releases, then drops back to underwhelming numbers the next week. Price drops have done shit all for PS3s as we have seen in the past. Redesign will give it a boost, but I don't expect it to be long term. Don't expect PS3 numbers to be any better than what they are already. So in the scenario that the Wii U does lower numbers than the PS3, they'd both be bombas, that doesn't make the PS3 a good competitor.
I don't expect alot from the Wii U in Japan, but I know at the bare minimum Nintendo's first party will carry the system in the short term, anything after that is anyone's guess.
When 3DS was more expensive than PSP the latter was putting up considerably better numbers than it is now. It has only been since the price drop + MH drop that PSP's hardware sales have really started to dry up.
I'd argue that the PSP sales drying up has almost nothing to do with the 3DS directly and more to do with it being in full on Zombie mode when it comes to releases. Oh it's getting them, but all of them have the stench of death on them. Endless low budget anime/light novel sequels.
BishopLamont
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Software ecosystem moved to the 3DS at that time, if PSP was any cheaper it'd still be no competition to the 3DS. Hell if every system in Japan got a price drop tomorrow besides the 3DS, nothing would change.
Recieving a bigger than usual price drop to coincide with three of Japan's biggest titles on the latest new system means alot more than a handheld getting a price drop that coincides with the end of its life and token titles in the future.
metalslimer
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Yeah I doubt the PSP would still be selling 20k even without the 3DS there. The support is just too inconsistent. Of course without the 3DS there the PSP would still be receiving a good amount of support so it depends.
BishopLamont
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Well yeah it comes down to the software support. Like PSP, the PS3 isn't gonna be supported with big releases for much longer, it also happens to be that a new console is launching with new releases to over shadow it, whether that support is first party or third party means nothing in the launch period. If third parties choose to ignore the Wii U, it'd be because of the 3DS not because the PS3 is doing amazing numbers, and if they do choose the PS3 it'd be because of the west, but to talk about Japan specifically, the PS3 is gonna be a low priority to third parties.
You said that Iwata can't be trusted, and that you're only going with what's announced now for Wii U launch support in Japan. Yet, Vita is too early to count out (wait at least another year to be sure), since it's also in a "no big games announced" area, but you just can't count it out, yet (for another year from now).
It's hard to take you seriously as a poster, at this point.
Not in the slightest, unless you think software support for PS360 (and Wii U, PS480, if they're all multi-platformed to each other) is "done" after those two games.
test_account
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I think that we still will see some big PS3 titles in 2013. I dont think that PS4 will launch before late 2013, and i expect that there will be some big console tiles in 2013 (and i dont expect them all to be WiiU exclusive).
You Are Viewtiful
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Don't forget Yakuza 5 guys 
Also that Super Robot Wars game. PS3 still has plenty of life left.
Also that Super Robot Wars game. PS3 still has plenty of life left.
BishopLamont
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Most will be for the west and most will be multiplatform. How they sell is in the air. PS3 exclusive software will be non existant. We were talking PS3 vs Wii U, multiplatforms will be a bigger win for the Wii U than it is for the PS3, but in the end it depends on how well the Wii U sells and how well those games sell on the Wii U.
test_account
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It is out this yearDon't forget Yakuza 5 guys
Don't forget Yakuza 5 guys
Another 500K seller. Japan-only, though. SEGA didn't mention Yakuza in the series they were keeping going, so does that mean it's done after this game?
Third-party exclusives are pretty much non-existant, so that's not a big deal. The PS3 will still be supported for years to come, because it's part of an ecosystem that should still be supported for years to come.
Yeah, I'm expecting for Wii U to be more desirable in Japan very soon after launch than PS3, so it should eventually match/surpass PS3 in third-party games sales (on a game by game basis). PS4 is a big "?", though.
test_account
XP-39C²
Maybe the last Yakuza game for this console generation. I cant imagine that they drop this serie when it sell this much.
metalslimer
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I was talking about about big releases. I guess there is Versus as well. Sega didn't mention Yakuza, but that was Sega Europe talking so it may just mean Yakuza is Japan only from now on.
BishopLamont
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Yes but they'll be driving PS3 sales as much as Wii U sales, its the exclusives that will differentiate which console will sell more, and Nintendo support will be the winner here. For years to come is a big exaggeration, the PS4 will be out by the end of next year most likely, there's nowhere for the PS3 to go but down, its just temporary competition for the Wii U til the PS4 hits, leaving the PS4 in even a tighter spot than the Vita/PS3 is in right now. The PS3 has always been supported with third party games, I don't know why anyone would expect that support to boost the PS3 numbers in a big way nearing the end of its life.
Oh to elaborate on PS3's software exclusivity, besides the actual exclusive PS3 third party games, all third party multiplatforms have basically been PS3 exclusive since the 360 is such weak competition. With a bigger userbase, the Wii U will bite another chunk out of the PS3's software pie. By the time the PS4 arrives it'll be 3DS vs Vita all over again.
Could go PSN-only, which is something I believe Sony suggested in the past IIRC.
BishopLamont
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The truth hurts.
metalslimer
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What an amazing contribution you've added to the conversation. Is there something you feel is being left out of the discussion?
The real interest happens when one of the Zombie PSP titles does well, or a LEVEL 5 game flops, or a DS sequel does better or worse than expected on the 3DS.
There's also the railroad collision fun of watching just how low the Vita will go and the amazing return from the dead certain Wii titles makes whenever that system does anything new or a kid friendly holiday rolls around.
AdventureRacing
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How many posts in any japanese sales thread even mention the 360? Outside of maybe 1 or 2 on the first page making a passing remark it isn't even mentioned so you're projecting there.
The vita is performing really badly and the 3DS is doing really well so that's why the discussion tends to go the way it does.
Amazing post junior
But, but, how can this be??? It's more powerful!!!
"Bestest" what?
Smiles and Cries
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has media create gone out of business?
has media create gone out of business?
Speaking of which, when do the top 50 usually come out for them? is it just randomly some time between Thursday and Friday?
BishopLamont
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EVERYTHING.
BOOM ROASTED.
Post count flame.
All the components of a GameFAQs thread have been assembled and siezed by Tenbatsu. Thus the dead GAF timeline will ensue.
metalslimer
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What...?
You Are Viewtiful
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Really? It doesn't sound smart for such a huge franchise to go DD only unless SEGA hates money. Or maybe they're bringing back Shenmue.
Please stop.
Still pretty much the same titles stuck between 21-50 then. Pity Kid Icarus ended up dying
.Still pretty much the same titles stuck between 21-50 then. Pity Kid Icarus ended up dying
Well, his flying power does last only 5 minutes... lol.
Anyways, any info on how Calciobit is perceived in Japan? Is word-of-mouth from the demo and release (prolly too soon to tell) positive??
I think if it catches on it could be a really big game, but well, it doesn't really have that big a chance.
You Are Viewtiful
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Did Inazuma Eleven get popular because of its anime? If not, then hoping that Calciobit becomes huge may not be 100% delusional 
Still pretty much the same titles stuck between 21-50 then. Pity Kid Icarus ended up dying
Hades!
Did Inazuma Eleven get popular because of its anime? If not, then hoping that Calciobit becomes huge may not be 100% delusional
I think the anime is what greatly helped IE become the successful franchise it is today (or was.. lol).
On the other hand, Calciobit has a totally different approach. It is backed by many japanese football players as a marketing campaign, plus having a nation-wide league/tournament could be very positive.
That's why i enquire about word-of-mouth from the demo
or first day(s) on sale!In the end, I love these kind of games and would like to see them localized, but i understand it is quite hard and would require a tremendous effort. Even if the game looks simple, i'm sure there's an enormous amount of depth within it.
metalslimer
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Would someone mind making a comparison chart of the first couple of years of DS/PSP/Vita/3DS/GBA ?
xxbrothawizxx63
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I lol'd.
Those were some of the funniest moments in the game (If I'm remembering correctly that happened multiple times).
Interesting. P4's hype and excellent performance might drive even more developers to give PS2 and PSP games the same treatment.
BishopLamont
Banned
On the contratry, Falcom just announced LoH is coming to the 3DS.
Comparison of what? Hardware or Software?
Garaph can definitely do the hardware and maybe even the software.
Media Create sellthrough:
02./00. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV: Denshou no Kyojin <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.07.05} (¥6.279) 95.506 / NEW <75.68％>
03./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400) 54.354 / NEW <60.90％>
First shipment for EOIV is ~125k and first shipment for LBX is ~90k.
02./00. [3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV: Denshou no Kyojin <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.07.05} (¥6.279) 95.506 / NEW <75.68％>
03./00. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400) 54.354 / NEW <60.90％>
First shipment for EOIV is ~125k and first shipment for LBX is ~90k.
slaughterking
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Pretty healthy sellthrough for both games.