Running Man with no guests is usually the best bet for a good one, followed by RM with guest actresses.
I don't like the use of helmets
I agree, I just really like the Suzy episodes as well.
The Yoomes Bond episodes are my personal favorites.
I don't understand how people like one twin better than the other. Not that there's anything wrong with them (for the sake of argument), but they're twins...
I think Woohee has a better chance at winning 2nd place than her.Yooara better win aegyo.
she can win the marvin the martian awardHow was Yoonhye not in selca category. She basically takes them for a living, more selcas than lines in songs.
Huh, I think you quoted the wrong post.
you have blinders on if you think Yuri was worse than sooyoung has been lately
Edit 2: Because Alt was blind and didn't see the clearly displayed winners, he didn't realize we are mostly voting for 2nd place here and wanted me to say it in my post even though the poll already says it.
dice said:[03:42] <&Dicetrain> it is an attempt to get people to look beyond their one-track minds
That one line makes it look shallow, vindictive, and not well thought-out. Why not include the original explanation before that bottom-line? Did it make too much sense? In reality it's similar to my T-ara pimping in the original thread. Aside from philosophical reasons, it really is a waste of time to take a traditional approach.Lol. Thank you Dice. I just want to make sure it's explicit that the lack of Soshi/T-ara from basically all voting options is because Dice is playing Big Brother for us.
This is rigged. SNSD didn't even comeback this year, and they are artist of the year.Don't hurt me.
still, she never looked as bad as sooyoung has been
Nobody needs to see that again.I need proof of Yuri's dark days. I've yet to see them so it did not happen.
WATAlso, digital prices are going to increase like a mother trucker. Say goodbye to all our beloved nugu groups.
CRAYON POP ;~;
That one line makes it look shallow, vindictive, and not well thought-out. Why not include the original explanation before that bottom-line? Did it make too much sense? In reality it's similar to my T-ara pimping in the original thread. Aside from philosophical reasons, it really is a waste of time to take a traditional approach.
[03:35] <&Dicetrain> I typically try to find ways to promote the thing right under everyone's nose
[03:35] <&Dicetrain> stuff still mainstream they arent looking at
[03:35] <&Dicetrain> my biggest shock in prior polls wasn't snsd's domination in itself
[03:35] <&Dicetrain> it was all the people saying they don't pay attention to or EVEN KNOW ABOUT most others
[03:36] <&Dicetrain> so remove SNSD from the thought process
[03:36] <&Dicetrain> make them think and compare the rest against each other
[03:36] <&Dicetrain> now they are paying attention
Lol. I think so too. I have no idea what I was responding to anymore.
[03:35] <&Dicetrain> my biggest shock in prior polls wasn't snsd's domination in itself
[03:35] <&Dicetrain> it was all the people saying they don't pay attention to or EVEN KNOW ABOUT most others
[03:36] <&Dicetrain> so remove SNSD from the thought process
As I said before, plenty of people can and will focus on SNSD, and they will get into a cyclical reinforcement and be blind to other groups. The end result is that anything set up against them is a waste of time. It's not a comparison, it's a "find and check SNSD" or a "Check SNSD because I'm not familiar with others" exercise. I didn't feel like wasting my time, and if someone thinks SNSD is best they can enjoy figuring out who they think is second best. I don't see how it is shallow, vindictive, or thoughtless to encourage awareness, consideration, and comparison of many other groups. I didn't do it out of hate for SNSD. I did it because we have a beautiful industry that is often being overlooked or ignored for the bigger few.There's your original explanation. It's just as shallow, vindictive, and not well thought-out as the other quote. This isn't about who YOU think should be highlighted or who YOU think people should pay more attention to.
That's what I said, though. It's what they have always been so I went for something different. Not enjoying it seems based in the title of the awards. If they were the "Don't waste my time with a popularity contest, let's put in a few minutes to at least try to appreciate the art AWARDS" you wouldn't have an issue. So it's silly to be upset and...No, that's bull. Polls / awards have always been popularity contests.
Exactly.If I cared that much I would make my own awards.
As I said before, plenty of people can and will focus on SNSD, and they will get into a cyclical reinforcement and be blind to other groups. The end result is that anything set up against them is a waste of time. It's not a comparison, it's a "find and check SNSD" or a "Check SNSD because I'm not familiar with others" exercise. I didn't feel like wasting my time, and if someone thinks SNSD is best they can enjoy figuring out who they think is second best. I don't see how it is shallow, vindictive, or thoughtless to encourage awareness, consideration, and comparison of many other groups. I didn't do it out of hate for SNSD. I did it because we have a beautiful industry that is often being overlooked or ignored for the bigger few.
Ultimately, you seem mad because of your idea of what a year-end awards needs to be. I didn't do that because year-end awards are a joke and these things are why. Full democratic process affirms very little except marketing effectiveness and social trends. It shouldn't be about affirming the favoritism and levels of public awareness that we all know has been the case for all the rest of the time. It should be a time to appreciate and compare everyone's work in the arts and give honors to those we find pleasing from among them. SNSD gets that every single day.
Well if everyone agrees I can just go ahead and take this down and forget the results and someone else can waste their time making a "real" one.
Lol. I think so too. I have no idea what I was responding to anymore.
That's what I said, though. It's what they have always been so I went for something different. Not enjoying it seems based in the title of the awards. If they were the "Don't waste my time with a popularity contest, let's put in a few minutes to at least try to appreciate the art AWARDS" you wouldn't have an issue.
Well if everyone agrees I can just go ahead and take this down and forget the results and someone else can waste their time making a "real" one.
Arguments aside, HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAX!!
Edit: great avatar choice EJ. choaaaaaa
Nobody needs to see that again.
WAT
when you can viably buyback your way up the charts, yeah prices need to go up
How many times do I have to say it's a waste of time? We all know and have seen the actual collected and tallied data. Aside from Hyomin and MAYBE Jaekyung, soshi members dominate the shit out of these. Unless you are purposefully doing an SNSD member ranking poll, it's a waste of time.That is an option. Why not just add Soshi to the idol awards. Why is this such a big deal?