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K-Pop Fanboy/Fangirl |OT7| A Great Trash Leader as Always
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Throwback Thursday:
Saw an article where Kan Mi Yeon talks about a Baby V.O.X reunion. I guess?
Get Up - This song really put them on the map. Sure Ya Ya Ya was a hit, this was better than any of their previous two albums by far.
Also, Yoon Eun Hye was super unpopular at the time. She was by far and away the youngest member of the group (only 15) and didn't really fit the image of the group. The crowd would be super loud at the other members parts, but when it was her line just silence. I think she got attacked once before as well - but has obviously gone on to be a successful actress.
Saw an article where Kan Mi Yeon talks about a Baby V.O.X reunion. I guess?
Get Up - This song really put them on the map. Sure Ya Ya Ya was a hit, this was better than any of their previous two albums by far.
Also, Yoon Eun Hye was super unpopular at the time. She was by far and away the youngest member of the group (only 15) and didn't really fit the image of the group. The crowd would be super loud at the other members parts, but when it was her line just silence. I think she got attacked once before as well - but has obviously gone on to be a successful actress.
superseohyun
Member
twice's weekly idol was so bad.
Berry good is.... actually very good
Berry good is.... actually very good
crimzonflame
Member
Here's a good new episode of Weekly Idol:
[Eng Sub] Weekly Idol 161019 Episode 273 DIA & Dal Shabet
Eunjin got some moves.
jongkookie
Member
Honestly? A K-Pop group should be music first and personalities second, what we have with Twice is the total opposite of that. When I watch fancams or their live performances, it honestly just seems like they're going through the motions with their routine and fanservice. On the other hand when they're on Weekly Idol or Knowing Brothers, they shine really bright even if their appearance is shitty at best. They know how to play the camera and audience and that's about it really.
I'm not gonna lie, I do enjoy watching their fanservice, but musically, you might as well put them on mute... it makes no difference to me.
Contrast that with their contemporaries like GFriend, Red Velvet and maybe even Blackpink. RV might've sucked with Russian Roulette, but One Of These Nights is one of the greatest songs all year... it's truly a beautiful piece of music. And guess what, they also know how to play to the camera and audience with weird shit like Irene being a master of ironing clothes.
Blackpink on the other hand, musically it's a little too early to judge them but we've got four songs and two of them(Playing With Fire and Stay) are musically more interesting than the pop drivel that Twice released since they debuted. Personality wise, ask me again when they finally get on Weekly Idol this week or the next.
And of course, last but certainly not least... GFriend. When they did the Mamamoo/GFriend Showtime thing, I was initially skeptical coz GFriend seems boring as fnck with their "pure" image, but ironically enough, they're actually a riot and fun to watch. Admittedly, I'm not quite a fan of their music since it's all pure and cutesy, but it sounds really interesting and the choreography is stunning to watch.
To put it in perspective, in the latest episode of Knowing Brothers with MMA man Choo Sung-hoon and Soshi's Yuri, those old dudes on KB could whistle Gee's and Genie's chorus off the top of their head. And it's been 7 years since both of those songs came out!
Twice on the other hand may have the most viewed video on YouTube, hell it could sell gangbusters and create a new record in the worldwide charts but views and sales don't mean shit to the average listener. They need a memorable tune but they don't have that, all they have are memes... and no one's gonna remember a meme 7 years from now.
TL;DR: Twice is overrated coz they are musically inferior to other girl groups who are both musically talented and full of personality.
This one I'll forever agree, at least until one of them announces they're dating somebody haha.
Quoting for truth, but I think that is Mina's appeal though. Her shyness is endearing to watch, and when she breaks out of that, it's just super cute to watch.
Tzuyu on the other hand I think is overtly cautious coz of the Taiwan bullshit that went down early in the year. She's probably keeping a close of watch of her words and deeds hence why she seems quite boring.
Supermanisdead
Member
That's nonsense. Twice's music is incredible.
jongkookie
Member
Lmao.
I think we'll see Trump's presidency end sooner than when we'll see Twice release a song that can rival Gee or Genie's popularity.
Twice is overrated in the sense that they are literally everywhere and being the most successful girl group atm. While their music isn't THAT great.
JYP gave his best single this year (Nomunomunomu) to IOI instead of Twice haha.
Also, their dancing looked kinda lazy lately.
and how many crazy fan girls bought it just because of this exact reason?
To be the best male group, to outshine EXO etc etc.
These fanwars about youtube views (lol) and the like are just batshine insane
I do fully agree that they are really really good. My favorite male group as well and their music is consistently one jam after another.
But, when skimming through the comment section of BTS and/or EXO related content one has to wonder whether these people completely lost their sanity.
JYP gave his best single this year (Nomunomunomu) to IOI instead of Twice haha.
Also, their dancing looked kinda lazy lately.
best selling album of all time on gaon
and how many crazy fan girls bought it just because of this exact reason?
To be the best male group, to outshine EXO etc etc.
These fanwars about youtube views (lol) and the like are just batshine insane
I do fully agree that they are really really good. My favorite male group as well and their music is consistently one jam after another.
But, when skimming through the comment section of BTS and/or EXO related content one has to wonder whether these people completely lost their sanity.
wolfwolfwolf
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Why do you think they have become so much more popular then compared to everyone else?
There aren't many rookie groups 'full of personality' and if there are some they're not selling it as well as Twice, who manage to infuse it into their MVs, promotional material otherwise, through heavy use of platforms such as V live. I mean, that AND the fact that they're 'visually appealing' but don't look like carbon copies. It's a very solid mainstream recipe.
I like Cheer Up but am not super sold on their music otherwise. But it's not that hard to see why they took off even more than usual from a JYP group.
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Time for k-pop groups to get behind this: http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=217898
I like Cheer Up but am not super sold on their music otherwise. But it's not that hard to see why they took off even more than usual from a JYP group.
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Time for k-pop groups to get behind this: http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=217898
TT is fantastic, it's one of my favorite releases of the year. And people dismissing them as being unable to release good music, lol. JYP is sticking to one formula with them now with the type of singles they are releasing, but that doesn't mean he is not going to switch it up at some point and release something more appealing to your tastes. C'mon they just debuted one year ago. I would rather have them not peak too early.
As a reference, SNSD released as singles in their first active year: Into the new world, the cover of Girls Generation, Kissing you baby and Baby baby (I don't even knoe what the hell is this song).
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And mess at April changing its lineup once again. DSP should have put her into April since day zero. Now I'm wondering what the hell they are going to do with Youngji and Somin...
As a reference, SNSD released as singles in their first active year: Into the new world, the cover of Girls Generation, Kissing you baby and Baby baby (I don't even knoe what the hell is this song).
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And mess at April changing its lineup once again. DSP should have put her into April since day zero. Now I'm wondering what the hell they are going to do with Youngji and Somin...
ITNW is an all-time classic. Baby baby is also great. Actually their first album is probably the best outside of the first Japanese album. Cutesy but chock full of melodies.
ITNW is great, I agree. Just listened to Baby baby and is definitely not my thing.
I would also like if Twice was at the level of non stop quality releases of KARA and 9muses (no playboy didn't happen), but it's just, not realistic. They would be probably less popular if they had went the quality route instead of the catchy formulaic they have now anyway.
Supermanisdead
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I just find it so disingenuous to argue that Twice are succeeding just on visuals. TWICEcoaster didn't sell 90k albums in a week without the music appealing to a huge number of people.
Doesn't Twicecoaster have 9 different random CD designs? I guess that also helped. I like Twice, but yeah, I can't defend their album tracks except for Like a Fool and One in a million. Nothing groundbreaking there, but really pleasant to the ear.
Splits contest way too close
Just to refresh peoples memories, Cheer Up is the biggest hit of this year, at the level of EXID's Up & Down, Crayon Pop's Bar Bar Bar or Gfriend's Me gustas tú. Of course it's not only the music that plays into this, but it's definitely a big factor.
[M/V] 나만 안되는 연애(Hard To Love) - 볼빨간사춘기(Bolbbalgan4)
Bolbbalgan4 with a quick MV release to ride on their sudden popularity.
Let's Dance:MOMOLAND(모모랜드
becomes BABOLAND because of JJan?_JJan! Koong! Kwang!(짠쿵쾅
lol, they are so noisy, I might end up checking "Finding Momoland". I didn't know the group was produced by Duble Kick.
[M/V] 나만 안되는 연애(Hard To Love) - 볼빨간사춘기(Bolbbalgan4)
Bolbbalgan4 with a quick MV release to ride on their sudden popularity.
Let's Dance:MOMOLAND(모모랜드
becomes BABOLAND because of JJan?_JJan! Koong! Kwang!(짠쿵쾅lol, they are so noisy, I might end up checking "Finding Momoland". I didn't know the group was produced by Duble Kick.
wolfwolfwolf
Member
I don't mind having more releases like this to be completely honest.
I don't fully understand why their previous single became such a massive hit but the album is very good. Also checked my prejudices - it's not the guitar n piano playing member who's the chief songwriter, but the blond vocalist.
crimzonflame
Member
This is exactly how I feel. I like the members of Twice but I do not think they should be at the top of K-Pop right now if we basing it on just their music.
I feel a lot of the rookie groups out there are full of personality. Even the ones from B-tier groups. A lot of them are stuck with crappy concepts (Lovelyz, WJSN), or haven't found their identity yet (DIA, Laboum). Thats why I find Blackpink so refreshing.
I honestly do not think there is a clear cut best rookie group yet (maybe Blackpink), but a lot of the fans and the media have already given that title to Twice. I just don't think their songs are that good.
Lastly, am I the only one who thinks the rappers + Nayeon are the best members of Twice?
[안투라지 MIXTAPE #3] 에디킴, 펀치넬로 (Eddy Kim, PunchNello) - 2NIGHT
From the Entourage "mixtapes"
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Eng subs for the V Live that Black Pink did the other day
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Knowing Brothers Heechul and Kyunghoon are doing a SM Station song
That picture though
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Beast not renewing their Cube contracts pretty much a sure thing now
From the Entourage "mixtapes"
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Eng subs for the V Live that Black Pink did the other day
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Knowing Brothers Heechul and Kyunghoon are doing a SM Station song
That picture though
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Beast not renewing their Cube contracts pretty much a sure thing now
broz0rs
Member
Let's not forget that SNSD were the queens of variety at one point and fans were always eager as to which shows they would appear. They pretty much had it all, and I think TWICE seems like the group that can replicate in that area. Musically, they are just in their first year and if JYPE plays it correctly and put their best resources to them, they'll have a banger eventually. Also want to point out EXO hasn't made a dent in variety, had just one memorable single (Growl), and is arguably the biggest group in Korea.
I wouldn't say EXO are the biggest group in Korea, in fact I think they kinda lost their top spot quicker than previous SM boy bands. The member exodus didn't help. They feel a bit like SuJu post-2011 in that they still sell a lot of albums but don't dominate the watercooler talk anymore. They were the hottest male sex symbols in the country when I lived there though.
베리굿(BerryGood) - '안 믿을래' 안무영상 (Dance practice)
Watch dat arm flailing in all its glory. The formation transitions are quite cool, though.
Watch dat arm flailing in all its glory. The formation transitions are quite cool, though.
I wasn't here when nomunomunomu came out, did you all like it? That song is shit tier
Do labels not realize that half of the appeal of dance practice vids are short shorts and t-shirts? Or maybe that's just me
Reminder that latest A.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You need to remember BTS doesn't have China.
I'm a fan of both and they are REALLY different. EXO achieved success with their 2nd release just because they had a hit song. If you think about it, every group that's been gaining some sort of recognition had a hit song, with the exception of two groups: BTS and Seventeen. EXO had Growl plus their insane Chinese fanbase, thus becoming a triple million seller. BTS had a 3 year build up with good music and a very smart CEO. ARMY is a huge fandom split between east and west and it's getting bigger by the minute because Big Hit knows how to use social media and Armys are annoying and beg for people to give BTS a listen. I'm not denying the bulk buying thing, but if a group has a fansign then there will be fans buying 4357893476 cds to get in.
Also, I don't think that Armys objective was to make BTS the #1 seller, but now that we know that's possible exo-l better save their money because SM will probably turn EXO into suju2 and give NCT all the attention because that's an expensive mess if I've ever seen one.
Youtube and easy internet access is now ubiquitous in everyday life, any device, TVs, tablets, smartphones, consoles, media players, cars, refrigerators), have internet access. Just PC on the old days. New records will be made for sure.
Oooh Ahhh > Cheer Up >>>>>> TT
Practice videos should be simple, but hail HD. Evolution: Genie, Chocolate Love, Oh, The Boys, Mr. Taxi and Mr. Mr.
IGAB is in SM dungeon, it exists but never released
That T-ara Tiamo song, it's just bland, what a waste for a comeback.
broz0rs
Member
I don't know if SM will give EXO the senior tour treatment just yet. They had their first tour of Japan this year and iirc they broke into the top 10 in Japanese concert sales even when they absolutely half-assed their promotions there. Plus, with BIGBANG set to enlist, EXO can make a run at being the top kpop act in Japan. By the way, there's nothing in this industry that brings more money than concerts in Japan. RIP YG 2017-2018
MOMOLAND (모모랜드 - Uh-gi-yeo-cha (어기여차 (Audio)
This is a fun song. Sounds like something OMG would release.
- Uh-gi-yeo-cha (어기여차 (Audio)This is a fun song. Sounds like something OMG would release.
wolfwolfwolf
Member
I hope Entourage picks up as it goes along, show feels like it's trying to adhere too closely to the original (without going anywhere near as far) instead of being its own thing. Should get some decent music out of it though with the soundtrack lineup.
pinkurocket
Member
Berry Good >>>>>>>>> latest releases tbqh
enjoying practice dances more after not comparing them to bing bing anymore
jongkookie
Member
Who are these girls? This song got me to listen to their entire album and it's full of good shit from start to finish. I think I'm gonna need to stan them lol.
The JYP hype machine.
If Twice debuted under another agency without the hype machine of the big three and without Sixteen, I imagine they wouldn't be as successful as they are right now. Successful enough to be a mid-tier group at best, but that's about it really.
"Not peak too early?" I take it that you also see that they don't really have lasting power either, but CMIIW.
All I'm really asking for from Twice is a song that I'd actually give them my money and time... none of their 3 releases have done that. Meanwhile I bought Hyolyn's One Step, Ailee's new EP, Shinee's 1 of 1 and BP's Square Two in the last month. Hell I just bought Bolbbalgan4's Red Planet on iTunes! I didn't even know who they were 3 hours ago, yet I already have their album.
I'm not asking for Twice to release folk-pop or some kind of R&B aesthetic jam like Ladies Code, I just want a song that I can actually connect and jam out to. And y'all know my weird ass musical tastes lol.
Again, they can sell gangbusters and many people might like their songs but at the end of the day, it's basic pop drivel. No one's gonna remember the melody to Cheer Up 7 years from now, but they sure as hell will remember shashasha.
Supermanisdead
Member
Yes lol, twice is just pop drivel. Manufactured. They don't write their own music! They can't play their own instruments! I was born in the wrong generation!
davidwhangchoi
Member
damn good. i'm going to ask my friend to learn to play and sing this =)
i started listening to the fancam concert and love this one too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U8uA702xrE
just got home from work:
JuJu Club - Sentimental 1997
Ok I'm not into K-pop but I'm just curious, is there a sudden rise in k-Pop popularity starting from last year? And what caused this?
From where I'm from (Philippines), K-pop was very popular during 2008-2010 with the the Wondergirls' "Nobody" and 2ne1's "Fire" being geuinely mainstream.
No mainstream hit from 2011-2014 save for gangnam style
In 2015, Bigbang's "Fantastic Baby" was mainstream but only that.
This year? I feel like there are more obsessed K-poo fans then before.
Nothing wrong with that of course but I wonder
From where I'm from (Philippines), K-pop was very popular during 2008-2010 with the the Wondergirls' "Nobody" and 2ne1's "Fire" being geuinely mainstream.
No mainstream hit from 2011-2014 save for gangnam style
In 2015, Bigbang's "Fantastic Baby" was mainstream but only that.
This year? I feel like there are more obsessed K-poo fans then before.
Nothing wrong with that of course but I wonder