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Kendrick Lamar is performing at Super Bowl LIX Halftime Show

Kendrick was the one part of the Dre halftime show I didn't really care for, so I guess I'll be doing something else for this one.

Bruno Mars had the best halftime show in the last 10 years:

 

HRK69

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Like come on, who else could do anything close to this kind of a freestyle flow?

Flow? Easy.

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It's rather hilarious to see complaints that rock music won't be featured and "you'll only get hip-hop now" when for decades all we got was old, past their prime rock bands that nobody in my age cohort was remotely interested in.

I hope it's Kendrick for the next 5 years straight.
 

SF Kosmo

Banned
It's rather hilarious to see complaints that rock music won't be featured and "you'll only get hip-hop now" when for decades all we got was old, past their prime rock bands that nobody in my age cohort was remotely interested in.

I hope it's Kendrick for the next 5 years straight.
Yeah it's hard for Xers and elder millennials to accept that rock is no longer the force it was in popular music. Like it continues to exist and there's still good music in the genre, just as jazz and blues and reggae still exist, but it hasn't been one of the primary genres of popular music in like 15 years.

I have never liked pop music much so I get how it's easy to get crotchety about how there isn't really an "alternative" lane in popular music in the same way, but if you're going to dismiss literally all hop hop in the last 10 years as mumble rap, including a Pulitzer prize winning lyricist, then you just sound like Grandpa Simpson.
 
There have been barely any good halftime shows for almost 20 years, remember how awesome The Rolling Stones and Prince were? A handful of decent ones but none even come close to Prince since then.

Rap is way, way overexposed, it's boring now.
 

ResurrectedContrarian

Suffers with mild autism
It's rather hilarious to see complaints that rock music won't be featured and "you'll only get hip-hop now" when for decades all we got was old, past their prime rock bands that nobody in my age cohort was remotely interested in.

I hope it's Kendrick for the next 5 years straight.
meh, I'm over the genre and I do think "mumble rapper" is an appropriate description of Lamar. He's boring, and I don't need the purveyors of hip hop to act as if they brought sophisticated poetry to music when I was listening to the likes of Leonard Cohen decades ago in the folk genre. If anything, the increasing corporate / widespread media saturation of hip hop has made American pop culture more third-world-trashy in a tangible way, and reduced the overall intelligence of music. It's not a race thing per se, because I consider jazz one of the greatest American music / art forms, but ghetto lyrics really just are ghetto and gross for humans to participate in, and there really is no redeeming artistry here.

I agree, however, that the rock bands at past Super Bowls were terrible. But to be clear, that was only a small passing phase--we had maybe a decade or 15 years of that. If you look back at the shows in the 70s/80s/ even into most of the 90s, you saw a lot of "__ marching band does a tribute to __". In retrospect, that was much better than the popstar nonsense we've been letting drag the game down for so long now.

Rap is way, way overexposed, it's boring now.
More than that... it's corporate now, which is an embarrassing position to be in. Don't pretend to be street artists or authentic souls when you're the face of Apple Music and Coke ads, and nodding to Lamar is basically a shibboleth to prove you're not one of the bad racists. It's so tired and standardized, and a giant funnel from the dumbest white kids whose listening provides all the cash to keep it going, straight into the hands of corporate handlers and then into the talentless mumbler hacks... who just play their part in this corporate machinery without the slightest awareness of irony. There's nothing bold or challenging to be found in any of it, it's a ruse and a boring one now.

tl:dr for the threadbump post above mine:

1) You can’t please everyone.
2) Rap/hip hop is too popular.
3) Popular Rap/hip hop music isn’t for him.
Even on the central point ("Rap/hip hop is too popular") this is a complete misread. If anything, I'm supportive of music being popular / for the masses in the general sense. After all, I brought up the era when marching bands would play halftime with suites of crowd-pleasing medleys like "tribute to the seventies." My criticism is of a corporate and synthetic popularity, which is a different thing entirely. But again, if one thinks Lamar is a genius, these kinds of subtleties of language are sure to pass over your head.
 
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tl:dr for the threadbump post above mine:

1) You can’t please everyone.
2) Rap/hip hop is too popular.
3) Popular Rap/hip hop music isn’t for him.
 
Even on the central point ("Rap/hip hop is too popular") this is a complete misread. If anything, I'm supportive of music being popular / for the masses in the general sense. After all, I brought up the era when marching bands would play halftime with suites of crowd-pleasing medleys like "tribute to the seventies." My criticism is of a corporate and synthetic popularity, which is a different thing entirely. But again, if one thinks Lamar is a genius, these kinds of subtleties of language are sure to pass over your head.
You might as well actually reply instead of doing the back-quotes lol. Nothing of what I said is meant as a defense post for Kendrick Lamar. I literally just summed up your very long rant post in 3 points.

And yes, number 2 is accurate because when a genre of music becomes too popular it will eventually become corporate and synthetic. That's an inevitability and shouldn't be considered a separation.

I laughed at your post because

1) You bumped a thread that's almost a year old just to rant
and
2) You went on a rant about rap that people here have already expressed in lengthy detail time and time again.

A large majority of posters on this forum do not like rap, especially rap after the 2010s. I get it. You get it. Everyone gets it. 🤷‍♂️

I don't know how much more can be added to the pile of criticism about the genre because just about everything has been said. I'm betting nu-metal fans and other genre fans are glad that rap takes all of the flack online, literally every single time, to the point where it's funny enough to fit this meme image very well:

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You'll just have to wait out the wave of popularity like everyone else until the next genre appears at the front of the carousel. My bet is Country music making a comeback, but not old hits, instead the newer stuff people keep sharing on social media. So I guess we'll see if anyone here will be receptive to that when it comes.

Just be glad that Dubstep didn't stick around to make it to greater heights. I think that was the only genre people hated more. Hated it so much it's 6-ft under on the popularity charts.
 
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More than that... it's corporate now, which is an embarrassing position to be in. Don't pretend to be street artists or authentic souls when you're the face of Apple Music and Coke ads, and nodding to Lamar is basically a shibboleth to prove you're not one of the bad racists. It's so tired and standardized, and a giant funnel from the dumbest white kids whose listening provides all the cash to keep it going, straight into the hands of corporate handlers and then into the talentless mumbler hacks... who just play their part in this corporate machinery without the slightest awareness of irony. There's nothing bold or challenging to be found in any of it, it's a ruse and a boring one now.
A similar thing happened to rock n roll, it got way too corporatized, no authenticity, the biggest difference though is people got tired of that type of rock pretty fast and it went away relatively quickly, rap has been astroturfed for at least ten to 15 years now, especially by this point it feels exhausted.
 

SF Kosmo

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It might not have pleased everyone but people tuned in, and at the end of the day that's all they care about.


I watched the game at the bar and everyone turned up for the halftime show, got out of their seat dancing. It wasn't until the next day I saw all the salt. It's funny to me that the biggest complaint was that they literally couldn't hear what he was saying, like it's weird to me that the culture gap is that vast that there's an actual language barrier like that.
 

DeafTourette

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Serena doing the Crip Walk even though her sister was killed by Crips doing a drive-by over 20 years ago. You should know this.

Nope. I didn't know that. And like SF said, C Walking morphed into Compton pride. Lots of people do it and they aren't associated with the crips.
 

DeafTourette

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The symbolism of the halftime show went over a lot of heads ... Definitely not for those who don't care about the dark parts of our history ...
 

IntentionalPun

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The symbolism of the halftime show went over a lot of heads ... Definitely not for those who don't care about the dark parts of our history ...
It wasn’t all that deep.

And the moment most are talking about who liked the show is when a bunch of mostly rich and white people in the crowd yelled “a minorrrrr.”

Truly a defining cultural moment.
 
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DeafTourette

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It wasn’t all that deep.

And the moment most are talking about who liked the show is when a bunch of mostly rich and white people in the crowd yelled “a minorrrrr.”

Truly a defining cultural moment.

The stage being a video game controller, Sam Jackson pushing respectability politics at Kendrick to be more palatable, the dancers forming a divided American flag, Serena Williams doing the CWalk because of stupid uproar when she was at Wimbledon, the words in the stands....
 

Jinzo Prime

Member
The stage being a video game controller, Sam Jackson pushing respectability politics at Kendrick to be more palatable, the dancers forming a divided American flag, Serena Williams doing the CWalk because of stupid uproar when she was at Wimbledon, the words in the stands....
It's symbology for one part of America, not for everyone. It makes sense that a lot of people don't like it or don't get it.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
It's symbology for one part of America, not for everyone. It makes sense that a lot of people don't like it or don't get it.

American history is supposed to be for everyone but the majority keeps thinking certain parts don't apply to them when they do.
 

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
I’m finally caught up on Modern Hip Hop 101 (god I’m old) and rewatched the halftime show, and that was just great lol. I love all the lore between the artists, and the weird interpersonal stuff. All of the symbolism and whatnot. It’s great, and funny, and feels super nerdy.

I’m really enjoying how into it people are getting. I’m barely on the periphery, but even I’m choosing sides now 😂
 

Jinzo Prime

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I’m finally caught up on Modern Hip Hop 101 (god I’m old) and rewatched the halftime show, and that was just great lol. I love all the lore between the artists, and the weird interpersonal stuff. All of the symbolism and whatnot. It’s great, and funny, and feels super nerdy.

I’m really enjoying how into it people are getting. I’m barely on the periphery, but even I’m choosing sides now 😂
Maybe that's the best way to view it. Just treat it like Star Wars or Marvel and only tune in every few years to see the recaps.

It’s also funny seeing the lil guy act tough in his size 28x26 jeans LOL
I had no idea he was that short, I was laughing so hard. Serena towers over him, he 5'5, she's 5'9 🤣
 
Watching people’s reactions online to Kendrick spitting the first verse of not like us at the Super Bowl has given me life. My wife is definitely one of those “this show was dumb” types, shit went over her head. I sent her down the Kendrick vs Drake rabbit hole over the past 48 hours and now she running around the house screaming A-minoooor.

Shit was watched 24 million times in 17 hours and people want to talk about “it was wack”

Nah that shit just wasn’t for you and that’s ok. Not everything is going to be for you. I don’t sit there and be like “man why is the industry wasting its time with these JRPG’s”

That shit ain’t for me, I move on.
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The stage being a video game controller, Sam Jackson pushing respectability politics at Kendrick to be more palatable, the dancers forming a divided American flag, Serena Williams doing the CWalk because of stupid uproar when she was at Wimbledon, the words in the stands....
I mean it’s decent in concept and execution. Like a decent music video. It’s referencing deep and important issues and all that but in the end it’s just pretty basic symbolism.

And either way in my opinion it’s marred a bit by corny rap beef.
 
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