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Lokaum D+

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Apparently, the mandatory gay scene is a lie


You can be gay if you choose to, though. Which is a departure from their vision in KCD1. I was going to buy KCD2 just to support their stance against wokeness, but that makes no sense now

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Apparently, the mandatory gay scene is a lie


You can be gay if you choose to, though. Which is a departure from their vision in KCD1. I was going to buy KCD2 just to support their stance against wokeness, but that makes no sense now




- The other source says they did encounter the first two scenes, but there was no exposed phallus and that the scene (all scenes in game) are skippable. Said it was a very "Game of Thrones" type of vibe and you kill the guy.


I don't know why everyone's focusing on the 'skip' part, the first game had skipable cut-scenes too. My best guess is that the machine translation of the Arabic tweet meant that it's an unavoidable part of the story, not that the scene itself cannot be skipped.
 

Fake

Gold Member
Big oof if true. Stumbled upon this about the first opus:

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What happened to you Warhorse?
Damn, I didn't really care about some option to make Henry gay (as long as it's handled realistically within the historical context).
But this really does raise some red flags. They've basically taken a complete 180 turn from the previous game. They went from "Henry is NOT you, he is a pre established character who is straight" to " You ARE Henry, and he is bi".

Agree. This is pretty much a red flag to me. Henry is not an avatar, he is character for the first one and if they made that kinda of change, would be better to have a character creation instead.

What a shame. I'll prefer to skip this game for now.
 
Apparently, the mandatory gay scene is a lie


You can be gay if you choose to, though. Which is a departure from their vision in KCD1. I was going to buy KCD2 just to support their stance against wokeness, but that makes no sense now

Grummz is simping hard for this game, not sure I'd trust him. Not that I trust the source he's referencing either, but his Tweets on all of this seem very questionable and he's got a lot of vitriol in his replies aimed squarely at him for appearing to ride some kind of fence.

I don't care about Grummz either way, just can't help but watch this trainwreck, it's better than old History channel content.

Edit: By "source he's referencing", I'm talking about the screencap of the Steam comment, not whoever his alleged source is, sorry for that poor wording.
 
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In rural, out of parent's house and before all his experiences ranging from not being able to read, nor sword fight nor craft, nor...

A blank state Henry that barely moves a feet in front of the other

ok

I mean, by all means, skip on the game guys if that's the threshold it takes.
I mean, don’t take your basketball and leave the court with hurt feelings. People are pointing out that there was a clear change in direction of travel here, and you’re really stretching to find some asinine alternative to justify it. No, henry was not some blank slate that went off to a liberal college and found himself and identified his true gender lol
 

Buggy Loop

Gold Member
I mean, don’t take your basketball and leave the court with hurt feelings. People are pointing out that there was a clear change in direction of travel here, and you’re really stretching to find some asinine alternative to justify it. No, henry was not some blank slate that went off to a liberal college and found himself and identified his true gender lol

Don't buy it then

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I don't care. I'm predicting GOAT reviews in just a week or so. Let's see who holds and who breaks their convictions.
 
Don't buy it then

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I don't care. I'm predicting GOAT reviews in just a week or so. Let's see who holds and who breaks their convictions.
Nice deflect, but you didn’t address the point. I don’t care either way, but I saw a couple of your posts and thought them fairly ridiculous, that’s all 🤷‍♂️
 

Buggy Loop

Gold Member
Nice deflect, but you didn’t address the point. I don’t care either way, but I saw a couple of your posts and thought them fairly ridiculous, that’s all 🤷‍♂️

What point?

That there's no such thing as discovering a new sexuality or falling in love with someone else later in life, after a long parkour of crazy events and life changing meetup of peoples he had never dreamt of even hanging with when he was a peasant?

That's the subject you want to fight for?

Sorry, I don't want to waste my time lol

Do boycott it if that's a no-go. I'm not trying to convince anyone of the contrary. You make a choice... like an RPG.
 
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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Bros, it's a role-playing game, so being able to do whatever you want is part of the course, even if that includes engaging with a few cocks here and there.

Just avoid the cocks and rest asured, you'll be fine. Press X to cock? Don't press X. Easy.

Also, some people are mentioning a change of direction. KCD was never about no cocks, it was about historical accuracy. Vavra mentioned that ingame the matter is treated as a demonic act like it was in the middle ages, and if that's the case then I guess it's fine.

Imo people are focusing a lot on this. KCD was all about the writting and the immersion, and if that's still as great or even better as before then we are in for a ride. Now, if the writting turns out to be shit, then the game will be shit as well. We'll see, but personally I bet on the game being good.
 

Lokaum D+

Member
You can be gay if you choose to, though. Which is a departure from their vision in KCD1. I was going to buy KCD2 just to support their stance against wokeness, but that makes no sense now
They are woke cause they add an option to be gay, even though u can kill gay npc apparently and cause they allocate one black npc in game ? if this is being woke wtf DAV and BG3 are ?
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
Bros, it's a role-playing game, so being able to do whatever you want is part of the course, even if that includes engaging with a few cocks here and there.

Just avoid the cocks and rest asured, you'll be fine. Press X to cock? Don't press X. Easy.

Also, some people are mentioning a change of direction. KCD was never about no cocks, it was about historical accuracy. Vavra mentioned that ingame the matter is treated as a demonic act like it was in the middle ages, and if that's the case then I guess it's fine.

Imo people are focusing a lot on this. KCD was all about the writting and the immersion, and if that's still as great or even better as before then we are in for a ride. Now, if the writting turns out to be shit, then the game will be shit as well. We'll see, but personally I bet on the game being good.
I don't really care about the gay stuff, even though it's very different from what was established in the first game about Henry and contradict the declaration of the studio itself. It feels forced and in contradiction but that wont stop me from playing the game. Now with the merchant, why not choose an Ottoman instead of a West African? Why does he have to say how much better Muslims treat women(!)? For a game that is know for it's historical accuracy with the dev making it a strong selling point, this is ridiculous.

At the end of the day I think people are just tired of seeing this king of stuff shoveled everywhere. If you want to include gay characters go for it! But do it right, that's why many don't care about BG3 for example and love the game. At least that's how I feel.
 
They are woke cause they add an option to be gay, even though u can kill gay npc apparently and cause they allocate one black npc in game ? if this is being woke wtf DAV and BG3 are ?
Obviously, we have to wait a little bit more to know whether the game is woke or not. I am not saying it is woke. But their previous stance was Henry is heterosexual and that´s it, and there were no black people in Bohemia in the 14th century, and they were called nazis and taking flak for it. They were the canary in the coal mine. Having a game without DEI or LGBT options for the main character is the proof that you can do it. And I wanted to support them just for that, to prove that you can do a game about white heterosexual people if you want to.
 
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TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I don't really care about the gay stuff, even though it's very different from what was established in the first game about Henry and contradict the declaration of the studio itself.
What declaration are we talking about?

Now with the merchant, why not choose an Ottoman instead of a West African? Why does he have to say how much better Muslims treat women(!)? For a game that is know for it's historical accuracy with the dev making it a strong selling point, this is ridiculous.
Don't know about what he says but I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Game's supposed to take place in one of the biggest cities of the kingdom, so I can understand there being one black dude which also happens to be a hystorical figure.

Imo, if there's a good reason for him to be there, then it's all good. On the other hand, if suddenly the game is filled with black people or other ethnic groups that have no place in medieval Bohemia then yeah, I'd assume they bent the knee.
 

Jigsaah

Gold Member
I wish I got the draw of this game. I tried but ultimately dropped the first game. It honestly all came down to the combat. I just couldn't get over how slow, clunky and unintuitive it was. From the little bit I've seen of the sequel, it doesn't seem to improve much on that. I'm aware the is about more than just the combat, but in my opinion, if the combat is bad, the game is bad.
 

Flabagast

Member
I wish I got the draw of this game. I tried but ultimately dropped the first game. It honestly all came down to the combat. I just couldn't get over how slow, clunky and unintuitive it was. From the little bit I've seen of the sequel, it doesn't seem to improve much on that. I'm aware the is about more than just the combat, but in my opinion, if the combat is bad, the game is bad.
Combat is only 10-20% of the game though (at least in the first one)
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
What declaration are we talking about?
You know, the one where the studio state Henry has a few defined things like his sexuality, who his father is and where he's from. I posted it here.

Take any character that has been defined as gay, make it a big part (Henry loves women, we even have a shitty DLC playing a women that Henry fucks) and then turn it straight. I would call that bullshit the same as I'm doing it here.

Don't know about what he says but I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Game's supposed to take place in one of the biggest cities of the kingdom, so I can understand there being one black dude which also happens to be a hystorical figure.
I've written what he is saying in the game. And it's stupid and clearly a political statement. Put an Ottoman, a Mongol or a Turk it doesn't matter! But they chose a Muslim which is highly unlikely, not to say impossible. They should have remained consistent with their "accuracy first" line of conduct.

Imo, if there's a good reason for him to be there, then it's all good. On the other hand, if suddenly the game is filled with black people or other ethnic groups that have no place in medieval Bohemia then yeah, I'd assume they bent the knee.
It won't be filled with black people, but the one that is here will lecture you about how good Muslims treats women (!).

And again, this wont stop me playing the game but I'm tired of this shit.
 

stevish

Member
And we finally made it to "the original vision was constrained", omfg :messenger_grinning_squinting:, what a roller coaster:





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If this is "sarcastic trolling", it's just more nonsense.. either way, this whole thing is :messenger_grinning_squinting::messenger_grinning_squinting::messenger_grinning_squinting:


The first game they didn't have time/budget to implement the option, now they do for the second. Why is this an issue? Seems reasonable.
 

stevish

Member
Does it? Why would it cost more to make him gay from the start if that was the plan?
It depends on what systems they have implemented around it.

What's the punishment for being gay? Do people treat you differently? Would need to create quests and cutscenes and everything else.

It likely wasn't that important, considering the state of the game at launch I could believe it.
 

pudel

Member
Yea I didn't get very far before I was bored to tears. Maybe I should give it another shot. What would you say is the best parts of the first game?
The whole world feels good, natural and realistic....its basically a first person medieval simulator. Thats why it even makes sense that the combat feels more slow and clunky, especially when you are running around in full plate armor. I dont know much other games which ever did "forests" that good like KCD did it. The story is engaging and believable with pretty nice cutscenes, you have quite a few big sidequests which some of are very unique and hilarious funny. The language, dialogues, writing and voiceacting is as you would it expect it in a medieval game. HR was definitely never allowed to enter the room.

Its hard to compare it to another game...as there is not really something similiar. Maybe Witcher3...just without magic and monsters? 🤷‍♂️
 
The whole world feels good, natural and realistic....its basically a first person medieval simulator. Thats why it even makes sense that the combat feels more slow and clunky, especially when you are running around in full plate armor. I dont know much other games which ever did "forests" that good like KCD did it. The story is engaging and believable with pretty nice cutscenes, you have quite a few big sidequests which some of are very unique and hilarious funny. The language, dialogues, writing and voiceacting is as you would it expect it in a medieval game. HR was definitely never allowed to enter the room.

Its hard to compare it to another game...as there is not really something similiar. Maybe Witcher3...just without magic and monsters? 🤷‍♂️
All facts, KCD is incredible.


I must be missing something. It just looks like people are upset they are now given a gay romance option. What else is there?
Yes, there's a lot more nuance here, but I can't recount it all right now - there are 3 threads which detail the goings on, including this one. I'd say just roll through those to experience the ups and downs.
 
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MarV0

Gold Member
It happens every day, i had gay friends that missunderstood something i said and tried to hit on me, thats fucking life.
You've never met a gay person let alone be friends with. Gay people are very straight forward. They would ask you if you are straight before saying or attempting anything stupid.

If they did then you were flirting with them and I got some news for you:
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Lokaum D+

Member
Yea I didn't get very far before I was bored to tears. Maybe I should give it another shot. What would you say is the best parts of the first game?
If i knew that kcd was this good, i would had give a fair shot years ago, just by looking at gameplay on YT i was bored, oh boy, i was wrong, here are some tips to help you If you decide to give another shot

Once you get to Rattay and got a horse all the parts are good, but i would recommend following the MQ and doing some bandits camp to get the combat, learn Master Strike as soon you got to Rattay and have fun, choose a weapon and stick to it in order to learn combos, combat is basic Parry>combo>kill

Once u are strong enough you ll be killing enemies in one hit after a master strike, like a true Knight.

Do some Theresa SQ for some hot action and do Hans SQ, they are awesome.

As soon you have your horse go learn how to read, its a game changer since you get lots of free skill points from books.

One last thing, combat is not the focus of the game even If its fun once you understand how it works, Its all about the joy of exploring the world, characters and stories that are presented to you.
 
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It feels like the twitter thread Daniel Vavra posted a few days ago addressing some of this is being ignored? Seemed a lot more like Warhorse sticking to their guns if anything.
 
It feels like the twitter thread Daniel Vavra posted a few days ago addressing some of this is being ignored? Seemed a lot more like Warhorse sticking to their guns if anything.
It's not. Read the thread. In fact, it's definitely part of it.

Once you get to Rattay and got a horse all the parts are good, but i would recommend following the MQ and doing some bandits camp to get the combat, learn Master Strike as soon you got to Rattay and have fun, choose a weapon and stick to it in order to learn combos, combat is basic Parry>combo>kill

Once u are strong enough you ll be killing enemies in one hit after a master strike, like a true Knight.

Do some Theresa SQ for some hot action and do Hans SQ, they are awesome.

So true. I did not follow through to learn the combat mechanics like I should have early on and it caused a lot more difficulty for me than was necessary, but I still loved it!
 
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