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Kotaku: Next Xbox will require online connection to start games
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haha well done good sir
wtf am I even reading...is this the real life
There are people who actually defend such a move (if true)...yikes
dragonbane
Member
You already earned GAF's trust by writing excellent articles and admitting to your own mistakes. The same cannot be said about all Kotaku's writers unfortunately.Interesting that Kotaku breaking news about the PS4 controller's touchpad and share button, breaking news about Doom 4's troubled development cycle, showing video and images from Star Wars: First Assault, breaking news about LucasFilm shuttering LucasArts and canceling their games, showing concept art from the Boba Fett version of Star Wars 1313, telling the story of what really happened to Aliens: Colonial Marines, and many, many more stories just weren't enough to get some NeoGAFfers to trust that maybe we know what we're doing.
But hey, we'll just keep on keeping on.
I have no idea when the Durango unveil will be.
This is what I think this means as well.
From their own article..
"other sources familiar with the codenamed Durango console have told us that they are still unaware of any Microsoft plans regarding an online requirement" - Kotaku
So here's the question "sources" there is plural. Do we have "two sources" saying it does require online and then "five sources" saying it won't be?
I'd love clarification there. There's just no way to know who to believe....(head asplodes)
Seriously though Microsoft...it's time to say SOMETHING.
Edit** As a side note, I can't INSTALL any of my Steam games without an Internet connection....but I can play (most of) them offline.
"other sources familiar with the codenamed Durango console have told us that they are still unaware of any Microsoft plans regarding an online requirement" - Kotaku
So here's the question "sources" there is plural. Do we have "two sources" saying it does require online and then "five sources" saying it won't be?
I'd love clarification there. There's just no way to know who to believe....(head asplodes)
Seriously though Microsoft...it's time to say SOMETHING.
Edit** As a side note, I can't INSTALL any of my Steam games without an Internet connection....but I can play (most of) them offline.
Gonna be interesting of see the way this is actually implemented.
My consoles are always online, but sometimes for some random unknown reason it drops out. Sometimes I have or restart the modem. Would suck to not be able to keep going.
Maybe its the connection that's required just to start and verify the disk? Hopefully.
My consoles are always online, but sometimes for some random unknown reason it drops out. Sometimes I have or restart the modem. Would suck to not be able to keep going.
Maybe its the connection that's required just to start and verify the disk? Hopefully.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
So I don't get many inside scoop honestly and I'll never put my GAF account at risk so take it with more than a grain of salt but my good friend at Treyarch, the one who told me about COD:blops2 back in the wust days when it wasn't announced yet, told me that:
online connection is indeed required to start games for the first time
kinect integration like manu navigation is mandatory for every game but it's actually done at system level
used games are not blocked per se
Hardly breaking-news info but I thought maybe someone would have been interested in such speculation nontheless
online connection is indeed required to start games for the first time
kinect integration like manu navigation is mandatory for every game but it's actually done at system level
used games are not blocked per se
Hardly breaking-news info but I thought maybe someone would have been interested in such speculation nontheless
And the worst part? You let them in.
Not that it "won't be" just that they aren't aware of it. There's a big difference.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Very good points, I find it hard to disagree on most of them apart from the MS GC.
I can't see them being happy going from 77m down to 20m or thereabouts. They will be looking to increase their market-share, not limit it and this is exactly what this feature does. It limits their growth/,market-share.
Flame Lord
Member
I'm not believing any of this until MS says it themselves.
krypt0nian
Banned
Hmmm. Noted.
IHaveCandy
Banned
Still don't believe this. I can see a particular console game requiring it, but be whole system?
Kudos bro. Long time since I'V READ something so smart in gaf.
AstroNut325
Member
Ok folks... seriously... I've had internet go down like 3 times in the last 2 years. Each outage lasted maybe a few hours at most. I really do not see the big deal. Not being able to play a few hours in a given year is something that I don't even blink an eye to! So help me understand... why is this a big deal?
Glorified G
Member
All he did was repeat the story from EDGE, which is arguably the most reputable site out there. He didn't exactly go out on a limb.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Microsoft has had such terrible PR leading up to the announcement, such terrible word of mouth, and such a terrible time combating rumors that if Don Mattrick showed a cardboard box with 720 written on it and walked off stage people would shit themselves with excitement due to the low standards set.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Microsoft is being too quiet. The 360 had at least some features unveiled at GDC.
Raitosaito
Member
They got the PS4 stuff right.
So what positive features can gamers expect from this move? I mean, if it's true, they are going to spin this like a merry go-round.
I can't honestly think of a single positive thing this restriction brings, not for any consumer out there.
Do you live in some kind of isolation bubble where only your experience is representative and only your opinion matters? Read the thread.
I can't honestly think of a single positive thing this restriction brings, not for any consumer out there.
Do you live in some kind of isolation bubble where only your experience is representative and only your opinion matters? Read the thread.
Katana_Strikes
Member
I can just imagine it now. You're just about to beat a boss and get to a save or autosave. You're Internet connection cuts out and BAM! Not only can you not play your game, you're gonna have to do that boss again
Just like your electricity cutting out, now you have to worry about the Internet as well.
Just like your electricity cutting out, now you have to worry about the Internet as well.
legacyzero
Banned
Kaz and Cerny are kicking back right now going "AWW YISS"
Seriosly not buying this console if this and anti used rumors are true.
Seriosly not buying this console if this and anti used rumors are true.
Because there is absolutely no reason to require an internet connection to start an application that benefits the consumer!
It actually did a good job of convincing me, actually.
Miles Quaritch
Member
It does seem to be most obvious reason for having a feature at the initial launch of a game. What is important is that will a connection be required every time you want to play after installation? My gut tells me there will be such a requirement, but being the optimistic that I am, I hope for the best in that there won't be such a requirement.
Metalmurphy
Member
Weren't they just reposting already known leaks?
Think of it like youtube for instance, you can only use it online and in turn youtube is able to feed you ads. Youtube for obvious reasons values an online user than an offline one that cannot consume content. It's clear that Microsoft will have numerous services to entertain your time and keep you online in order to continue to feed ad content to you. I have also mentioned previously that they are likely to subsidize the cost of the new console as well to get even more people onboard, so there's that aspect.
So you're saying it's a strategy.
You uuuh.. can be always.. connected, so.. ehm..
BINGO!
I actually believe most people in this thread who said they won't buy an Xbox because they will view this as gaming machine first.
But if MS sells it as DVR/Cable box then some of those people will definitely buy this system just save costs as long as the price hike on their cable bill doesn't go up by too much.
More importantly in the larger market the people who care about TV and movies more than gaming will eat this system up.
The only way to punish Microsoft for this is if Sony and Nintendo make a big move to offer streaming TV and movies and instead of charging an inflated cable subscription fee you just pay the upfront cost of their console. That way everyone against this move can heavily promote those platforms over MS because while their upfront cost will be higher their cost over time will be far lower.
They have two sources confirming always online. One of them has been 100% accurate so far.
All the other sources who don't know about it are less reliable and are unable to disprove this claim through whatever means they have.
So when the moron working on utilities down the street from my house cuts my cable connection, I'll have 3 minutes to save my progress before I'm locked out of my game for 1-2 weeks while they repair it? Awesome...
Please MS, for the love of all that is holy don't do this.
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edit: Then again.... I could always just turn my smartphone into a wifi hotspot and hook up to that. But that will definitely not suffice for multiplayer gaming.
Please MS, for the love of all that is holy don't do this.
edit: Then again.... I could always just turn my smartphone into a wifi hotspot and hook up to that. But that will definitely not suffice for multiplayer gaming.
Baconsammy
Banned
I love the " unless they changed it" part. So if it's not true, Kotaku can just claim MS changed their mind. Real ballsy reporting, Kotaku.
Really no way. Just think about this. Think again. Just no way.
I'm starting to think that this stuff comes from MS intentionally to troll people.
Then at the Durango reveal it's just a very powerful next gen console on par with PS4 with 1-2 major payed 3rd party exclusives plus impressive showings of their first party stuff with a good price. Boom.
I'm starting to think that this stuff comes from MS intentionally to troll people.
Then at the Durango reveal it's just a very powerful next gen console on par with PS4 with 1-2 major payed 3rd party exclusives plus impressive showings of their first party stuff with a good price. Boom.
dragonbane
Member
Jep
I just thought of this as well...
I'm pretty sure he was saying it before the edge story broke.
ThisWreckage
Banned
No, because a strategy would imply that they planned this. What I'm saying is that this thing is a focus tested nightmare and they still don't know how they're going to unveil it.
Beermeister
Banned
No 720 for me. I'm buying two PS4.
May 20th
Kotaku aren't the only ones who have reported about that "feature" though.
Sounds more like Kotaku are covering all the bases so to speak, in fact i just can't see this happeining and i won't believe it until Microsoft says it themselves, it just doesn't make business sense to me.
Raitosaito
Member
Well, for the PS4 controller I think there's came after Joystiq, but the pics were totally different.
I think their timing was just behind other outlets, but evidence seems to state that they have their own source.
Neuromancer
Member
Remember when Xbox Live was down (off and on) for a couple weeks (2007-2008)? Remember when PSN was down for 24 days (2011)? How would you feel about not even being able to play single player games during those times? Or do you think those things are never going to happen again?
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
I'm assuming that I will no longer "own" or have control over "my" games if this is true. I'll be cool with that as long as all retail games are $5-$10.
No way am I spending upwards of $70 just to have my game locked into some subscription or console.
No way am I spending upwards of $70 just to have my game locked into some subscription or console.
Baconsammy
Banned
I've never played my 360 or PS3 offline either, but its not my connection I'm worried about. It's theirs.