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[cormack12]

The hardware isn't even good enough for their own ambitious games. We should get a decent looking xb in 2036 at this rate.

 

[Radical_3d]

The Take (Komatsu, 1980).​

 

[PeteBull]

Just a reminder to the OP and every1 else- switch is 2017 handheld, it has roughly 1/3rd of xbox one power docked, its somewhere midway from ps360 to xbox one powerwise, ofc almost all games will look extremly terrible on it, with exceptions of exclusives who reduce graphics in super smart way so its less visible how underpowered switch is by todays standards.

TLDR: No amount of console optimisation, coding to the metal and programing magic can make up for very outdated weaksauce hardware

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I want to believe that 99% of the Switch users are well aware that the 3rd party games available on the system run and look better on Xbox/PS/PC...

That said, I have just over 100 Switch games, and about 70% of them are multi-platform titles that run and look fine. You just need to spend a couple of minutes researching before buying a 3rd party game to see if you're okay with what you're getting. That’s about it.

 

[Ozriel]

With the Steam Deck, ROG Ally and other AMD SOC-based gaming handhelds out, I simply find myself not bothering to get any multiplat on the Switch anymore. They all run - without exception - much better on the Deck, the Ally or even the Ayaneo 1+.

I know this is like the beating the deadest horse ever, but Nintendo absolutely must understand that the NSW was already long in the tooth in 2019. And Nintendo looks set to repeat this same strategy. If the leaked specs are real (eight-core Cortex-A78AE processor, 10 streaming multiprocessors, 8GB of RAM, and 64GB of storage ), we are going to be looking at similarly muddy multiplat titles in less than 2 years.

Well, the Switch 2 will put out games with better visuals than the Deck, and will be much more popular.
If you’re fine with playing multiplat games on the Deck right now, you’ll be fine with playing them on the next Switch.

 

[cireza]

Almost all multiplat run like shit indeed. This has been known like forever.

 

[kubricks]

I have not purchased any ports on NSW since 10/2022 and that was the date I received my Steam deck.
NSW was the only mainsteam handheld I can play those last gen AAA games back then, once there was alternative I jumped ship immediately and never looked back.

Time has changed as the handheld market opens up. There are absolutely no reasons to buy any ports from Nintendo even if Switch-2 is more powerful... softwares are almost always cheaper elsewhere.

That said I will most likely still buy the Switch-2 when it is out, for their exclusive obviously.

Thinking back, If the OLED Switch is just 15-20% more powerful and can run their more demanding exclusive games at a stable 30fps (Age of calamity for example) as well as improve frame pacing on ports, I would have stayed within their ecosystem and happy to play downgraded ports for the sake of convinence.
They didn't, so I moved on.

 

[Ponderling]

Most 3rd party switch ports are lazy hack jobs.
The visuals Nintendo can produce from a 10 watt system are mind blowing.

 

[Kataploom]

Best looking Switch games are those natively created for it, whenever people praise ports like TW3 or Doom all I can think is that they're thinking on the other versions more than the Switch one, those ports look bad to me but that's what the console can deliver anyway

 

[Drell]

Why does it need to be a topic?

 

[ArtHands]

Its selling point is portability. You're not going to be able to play these games natively on the road by lugging the PS5 around

 

[Komatsu]

Most 3rd party switch ports are lazy hack jobs.
The visuals Nintendo can produce from a 10 watt system are mind blowing.

Nintendo hasn’t blown the minds of anyone over the age of six with their visuals in a very long time, sorry.

These are wrong. It's 8xA78C, 12SM (1536 CUDA), 12GB LPDDR5X (120GB/s), 256GB UFS 3.1.
Also 12 RT cores and 48 Tensor Cores.

DLSS will help it a lot. Switch 2 will punch way above its weight for being a closed platform, but there will always be a limit with a handheld hardware (specially the Switch 2, that won't be as big and heavy as a Steam Deck or ROG Ally, thus having a smaller battery and going for a much lower TDP in handheld mode)

Thanks for the correction. Yes DLSS will definitely help.

 

[JimboJones]

Sometimes the convenience factor of being portable outweighs some image quality and performance concerns.

 

[Deerock71]

 

[LordOcidax]

 

[hemo memo]

The Switch is an indie, AA, and first-party video game console. It is considered a secondary console for hardcore gamers or the only console for Nintendo hardcore fans or casual fans. Therefore, trying those games was the only way, so graphics are not the thing that will bother them, and that's why.

Personally, when it comes to Switch games, is the downgrade worth the portability trade-off? For the games you mentioned (Doom, The Witcher 3, Nier: Automata), it's absolutely not. But again, a Nintendo fan with only a Switch or a casual player wouldn't be bothered.

 

[K' Dash]

We did it guys, we traveled back to 2017!

 

[RoboFu]

oh no NOT THE GRAPHICS!!!

Do you guys even lift? err ... play games for gameplay?
The short of it is if you only have a switch and want to play those games there inst a need to buy a super expensive alternative. And some ports are awesome like Dragon quest 11.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Let's lie: most multiplatform games play best on the Switch.

 

[Dorfdad]

I’m more surprised it took you 7 years to figure this out!

 

[Ponderling]

Nintendo hasn’t blown the minds of anyone over the age of six with their visuals in a very long time, sorry.

Don't be sorry, you're just wrong that's all

 

[Impotaku]

The most hilarious thing about this thread was the backfire, op fully intended to start some console war ragebait shit & failed hard. Maybe try again make a switch 2 thread and get ahead of the curve LOL

 

[cireza]

The Switch is an indie, AA, and first-party video game console.

Except that it struggles with Dead Cells, Outer Wilds and Tunic. So it is not even a proper indie console.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

The Switch is an indie, AA, and first-party video game console. It is considered a secondary console for hardcore gamers or the only console for Nintendo hardcore fans or casual fans. Therefore, trying those games was the only way, so graphics are not the thing that will bother them, and that's why.

Personally, when it comes to Switch games, is the downgrade worth the portability trade-off? For the games you mentioned (Doom, The Witcher 3, Nier: Automata), it's absolutely not. But again, a Nintendo fan with only a Switch or a casual player wouldn't be bothered.

I mostly play my Switch for First Parties, Puzzle Games, Visual Novels, Point And Click Adventures, Indies and JRPGs

The ones that don't run well I just buy on Steam and just play on my Steamdeck and even than I can get iffy performance out of it. For example Metaphor ReFantazio, some recent patches to the game I had issues with the game running slow but they fixed that

All I want with a Switch 2 is XBONE/PS4 Level Graphics Docked/Undocked with around 8 GB to 16 GB of RAM. Also full Backwards Compatibility with OG Switch. Both Digitally and Physical

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

This has been the case from day 1. The hardware isn't good enough, and it never was - that's true whether you're focused on 3rd party or 1st party games.

 

[justiceiro]

That's why I hate the switch concept, we basically got a handheld platform that upscaled on your tv.

It's definitely a b port of a b game, but at least it exists. On most Nintendo generations, you simply wouldn't have this port at all.


Also it's kind of funny how Nintendo created a market that neither Microsoft nor Sony tried to copy, but every PC parts company tried to, lol.

 

[darrylgorn]

 

[Tertullian]

Yeah, fucking New South Wales developers always messing shit up

 

[SweetTooth]

That's why I hate the switch concept, we basically got a handheld platform that upscaled on your tv.

It's definitely a b port of a b game, but at least it exists. On most Nintendo generations, you simply wouldn't have this port at all.


Also it's kind of funny how Nintendo created a market that neither Microsoft nor Sony tried to copy, but every PC parts company tried to, lol.

Sony will fix that next generation. You will get a console that scales down to be a handheld.