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LTTP: Drakengard 3 - Zero Fucks

Drakengard 1 LTTP

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(Full spoilers ahead for Drakengard 1 and 3. I beat everything aside from Zero's DLC and haven't read all the weapon stories.)

Oh Yoko Taro, you lovable garbage fire piece of shit of a human being.

Drakengard 3 is the prequel/sequel???? to Drakengard 1/2 and probably Nier by that extent? Drakengard 1 being the bad Panzer Dragoon and bad Dynasty Warriors clone known for baby eating people and people eating babies and being "that one game where the hidden ending leads into Nier." Drakengard 2 being the lame one I skipped. Nier being the game people actually like that is by some miracle getting a sequel that is shaping up to be one of the best games ever made? Like how is this even possible?

What you have heard is true - Drakengard 3 performs like shit. While its not the worst performing game I've ever played (Just Cause 3 was released on modern hardware by a AAA developer and runs worse tbh) its the worst performing game I've ever completed and there are definitely times where you can feel the game dying, mostly during boss fights. It's a pretty ugly game too, fantastic character designs aside. Music wise its great, but I wouldn't put it in the same level as Nier's GOAT soundtrack and Drakengard 1's...hellish nightmare noise?

Fortunately, unlike Drakengard 1 - Drakengard 3 at least plays decently well. Its no Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden Black by any stretch, but there is at least some depth and fun to be had with its combat systems. Another MASSIVE plus is that you don't 100% require a guide to get all the weapons like in Drakengard 1. Drakengard 1 doesn't tell you where chests are or what the criteria is, and a lot of them have completely obtuse CastleVania II Simon's Quest-tier requirements, like "Stand in this one area for twenty minutes" or "examine these four paintings in this order" which makes it actually impossible to get all the weapons unless you know already. The side missions on the other hand get abysmal near the end. They consist almost entirely of enemies with too much health which can practically only be damaged via bomb carrying enemies, and time limits for gathering stuff from locked up chests you have to break open while enemies that do 25% of your health attack you from every direction. That aside, I even prefer it to Nier (which is still easily the most recommendable and playable Drakengard game) which is essentially a game where you spam the spear magic and rush attacks with a spear weapon to beat the game. No boar drifting here tho, which sucks. You get dragon flight missions instead, which I can't talk shit on because they aren't the ones from Drakengard 1 which SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKED. Especially the final boss of Drakengard 1, which is the worst thing of all time. Taro apparently heard this and grinned because he's a fucking dickbag.

"But Taro-san, you can't POSSIBLY make a worse final boss then Drakengard 1. That's impossible!"

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"Haha what if I made the final boss from Drakengard 1 again except this time its 6 and a half minutes long with no metronome again, you cannot fuck up even a single time even at the beginning, the camera keeps trolling you by flying into Three's face and the last two notes come when the screen is darkening? What then haha. Also as a final kick in the dick, every time you lose you have to skip the cutscene then watch the 30 second intro haha"

FUCK. YOU. The end boss of Drakengard 1 is bad enough. It's a musical mini game at the end of a murder simulator, and the last part of that fight is still more fucked up then anything in Drakengard 3's. Also when you kill the boss you get shot down by the Japanese Air Force because you tore open a portal to the modern day and then the end boss landed in the middle of Tokyo, then dies and causes the Black Scrawl to happen and well folks that's how Nier happens! The only thing that kept me going beside hatred and Ritalin was this thought -

"If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this. If I beat Sans, I can beat this."

In some ways, the final boss of Undertale's genocide run and the Stupid Fucking Flower Sisters Aerobics Musical Club of Bullshit are similar. They are a massive, massive jump in difficulty from everything that came before it. They have a rhythm to their fights - although Sans at least operates on the same gameplay as the rest of the game, even when he is cheating - but hey I'd still prefer hitting you in the menus and skipping a second of the fight to moving the camera to a location where you cannot possibly rely on sight anymore. Sans also allows you to fuck up. If you fuck up even once in Drakengard 3, its all over. And I eventually got to the point where I could reliably clear up to the last phases of the fight with little difficulty. But that's how these fights drain you. I imagine its very similar to high end raiding content in MMOs like WoW - eventually you can reliably clear the first and second phases with minor issues, but you get to the third and lose...again, and again, and again, and again and again. And its not like you get to skip right past the first parts - you have to put in that time every single time, even if there is no way you will lose to that phase anymore. But hey the boss fight looks awesome! If you ever, EVER want to try this, you will need this - video because the fight is impossible without it and if you say you did it without it you are a liar. Pause the video at the first note being hit, and hit the first note in the game and unpause it at the same time. It took me around 4-5 hours, while Sans took around 10 altogether. And I would rather fight Sans 10 times over then do this final boss again. Think about that.

Alright but the reason anyone would ever touch this game is because of the writing, dialogue and characters. And they do hold up. Yoko Taro has a very unique way of constructing a story, especially when it comes to female characters. So here's the basic rundown of your cast -

Zero : An extremely impulsive woman, who fucks. Zero is just all around terrible. She eats food off the floor if she dropped it. She kills like 3,000 people (queue Caim laughing at this paltry number.) She wants to kill her sisters because she wants more power. Really, Zero is a piece of shit. I love her.

Mikhail : Mikhail used to be a big badass dragon with a booming voice but then he died or something and got reincarnated as a new personality. Mikhail is a child in intellect and morals, so he's pretty much the only decent, good-natured being in the game. His questions like "Do we really have to kill your sisters? Can't we just talk?" and "What's a virgin?" are immediately shot down by Zero (and everyone else) as soon as they leave his mouth.

Five : Five is the slutty one. She's even more impulsive then Zero. Food? Sex? Clothes? Jewelry? Food and Sex at the same time? Once she sets her sights on something, she'll get it. Or until she loses interest and switches targets.

Dito : Dito is Five's disciple and I hate him. He's like Caim but more of a little shit. He's a brutal sadist that loves all violence and macabre things, but hates that Five constantly trying to bang him. He gravitates more to Zero, until Five shows up later as a zombie with googly eyes and then he's super into her? Fuck you Dito! Like you weren't with Zero when she killed those thousands of dudes by herself!

Four : Four is the "innocent" one. She reminds me a lot of Sengoku Nadeko from Bakemonogatari because they're both the absolute worst on the inside.

Decadus : Decadus is a massive masochist about five levels beyond where I would tap out.

Three : Three is the creepy one. She speaks almost entirely in riddles and walks like a zombie. She has seemingly no interest in anything but human experimentation and her "children."

Octa : Octa is a walking sex joke. That's what 90% of his lines are.

Two : The braindead one. That's really it. In her DLC she's a lovebird with her disciple and the game just shits on them constantly for being happy.

Cent : Cent is a dumbass and I could never really get a read on his character. Was he with Zero because he wanted revenge on the world for screwing Two over?

One : The noble one. She's the only one without a disciple, and she split herself into two and has a brother. The brother goes on to make the Church that would spawn Manah. Good job you little shit.

Accord : Fuck it, you tell me, cuz I don't get it.

So Drakengard 3 is a revenge tale. Kinda? Zero's just shitty, really. It strays from Drakengard 1 and 2 and Nier's style of writing by going heavy into the dark humor. They are all murder games where you kill thousands, but Drakengard 3 is a lot cheekier about it. It also heaps on LOADS of sexual stuff. Like, way more then you would ever see in almost any other game. Y'know how in the God of War games there will be women Kratos can fuck in dumb minigames? That's lame, because not only does Zero kill her sisters - she STEALS their lovers, bangs them and makes her own Netorare harem.


Seriously. It owns. Not only does Zero want her sisters power - she wants EVERYTHING from them. On one hand, wow you are just turning these guys into your sex slaves and thats pretty fucked up. On the other hand, they don't seem too bothered by it and Octa even betrays his own Intoner before you killer her because he cannot control his massive lust. It seems to me upon release (I obviously didn't play it then) that people saw Zero as a cold-hearted and cruel bitch. Which she is. But in the context of the rest of the games industry...she isn't an outlier, except for the fact she's female. Like with the Kratos example, people probably wouldn't think twice if Zero and her sisters were all male. Hell, Kratos is worse then all of them. I guess she's closest to Bayonetta - in complete control of her own sexuality and doesn't take shit from anyone.

The DLC are expensive but if you like the game its probably worth it. Also the secret best character in the game (Gabriella, the grandma dragon who doesn't take shit from ANYONE and spits fire back hotter then any of the sisters can handle) only appears in the DLCs. Also Four's DLC is probably the funniest stuff in the game.

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AHAHAHAHAHA
 

Luminaire

Member
I loved this game but had little issue with the last boss. I wonder why so many people had trouble with it? I should play it again. I should also play the first two...
 

cj_iwakura

Member
I beat the final boss and Drakengard 1. Bite me, Taro. Do your worst. I expect it.

By the way, his justification for why the final boss was so damn hard?

Because it is final boss.

Shine the hell on.


Wait, so you saw all the endings and still think Zero's out for revenge?


I must say, this thread title is brilliant.
 

Wagram

Member
Drakengard 3 has a lot of problems and it's not even a game I could recommend to the average person, but damn if I didn't love it.

That final boss is a total fuck you and it was awesome.
 

fvng

Member
As a huge Nier fan I really disliked D3. And I tried real fucking hard to enjoy it and I tend to let a lot of shit slide...

The fact that Zero was such a bitch to her dragon Mikhail who exhibited childlike innocence was especially offputting. I get that she's supposed to be an edgy character but it's almost to a fault where I can't empathize with the main character who is so verbally abusive to what is essentially a child.

Nier was great because there was such a great endearing relationship between the crew and was full of a lot of love. Kaine was rough around the edges for a reason they did a great job explaining why she's grumpy, but despite that she cared a lot for Emil, a child.

Also the literal slideshow frame rates made me quit D3. Hopefully they're a PC port. PS3 never played friendly with Unreal Engine
 
As a huge Nier fan I really disliked D3. And I tried real fucking hard to enjoy it, I tend to let a lot of shit slide...

The fact tha Zero was such a bitch to her dragon Mikhail who exhibited childlike innocence was especially offputting. I get that she's supposed to be an edgy character but it's almost to a fault where I can't empathize with the main character who is so verbally abusive to what is essentially a child.

Nier was great because there was such a great endearing relationship between the crew was full of a lot of love.

Also the literal slideshow frame rates made me quit. Hopefully they're a PC port. PS3 never played friendly with Unreal Engine

You certainly aren't supposed to like Zero. She's awful. I took her shitting on Mikhail to be a play on the average idealistic JRPG protagonist and how Caim and Zero would react to them.

Hey wait that's just the Drakengard 2 protagonist.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
I actually platinum this game...
Haven't play the dlc. Maybe one of these days

Accord is like some kind of world watcher i guess. Trying to make sure the world didn't go fucked up
 
Great game

I almost didn't give it a chance after REALLY not liking Nier. Glad I did, it's definitely one of the funniest games I've ever played.
 
This makes me think Nier is a very ordinary game.

What in the everloving fuck.

Sequel to this!

So what's the deal with Drakengard 2 exactly? Yoko Taro didn't direct it, correct? Is it even related to 1 and 3 and Nier?

Don't think Taro was involved in Drakengard 2 at all. It's a sequel to ending A of Drakengard 1. I was told to skip it and read/watch an LP and I'm glad I did. You have to replay the entire game over again on a harder mode to get the consecutive endings, and the main character looks and feels like he wandered in from a Tales game.
 

Ralemont

not me
I really don't agree that the writing in Drakengard 3 holds up. I thought it was terrible nearly across the board. Apparently there's novellas that assist in understanding the Sisters backstories? Meanwhile we have to listen to pages on pages of awful innuendos that are somehow supposed to be a substitute for actual character development. And then there's Accord, who by herself almost submarines every cutscene she's in.

After D1 and Nier I wanted to cut Taro a lot of slack, but this story is by far worse than Drakengard 2's, which is at worst cliche.
 
Sequel to this!



Don't think Taro was involved in Drakengard 2 at all. It's a sequel to ending A of Drakengard 1. I was told to skip it and read/watch an LP and I'm glad I did. You have to replay the entire game over again on a harder mode to get the consecutive endings, and the main character looks and feels like he wandered in from a Tales game.

And the parts with Caim in them are the best parts of it, just about all can be experienced fully on youtube. Other then some battle chatter that is harder to find.
 

Dio

Banned
These are essentially my thoughts on D3 as well, to a degree. I like this more than Nier, too, and I've said as much before on this site.

The budget is tiny and the performance of the game goes to epically bad levels (1 FPS boss fight with the cannon anyone?) but the combat is far more fun than Nier's and the game is one big shocking, unrepentant 'fuck you' at the player, so much so that I give it props. It's like I'm playing the physical embodiment of a middle finger and it's filled with a level of personality and uniqueness that makes me feel like Nier is milquetoast in comparison.

I still like Nier and what it did, but something so bold and endearing in how much it wants to fuck with you (Yoko Taro intentionally making a hard as shit and annoying final boss, and never fixing it) just attracts me a lot more than the more conventional Nier because of that.
 
Sequel to this!



Don't think Taro was involved in Drakengard 2 at all. It's a sequel to ending A of Drakengard 1. I was told to skip it and read/watch an LP and I'm glad I did. You have to replay the entire game over again on a harder mode to get the consecutive endings, and the main character looks and feels like he wandered in from a Tales game.
Well it's also extremely expensive for a second hand copy, so I guess it's good that it's rather inconsequential. It was also published over here by Ubisoft of all publisbers...weird!
 

Manbig

Member
I'm usually down to play through some mediocre to okayish gameplay so I can get in on that Taro madness, but this game fucking sucked dog shit. I can't remember the last time I ever forced myself to finish a game like I did this one, but then all I got rewarded with was a triple down on the shitiness with that last boss.

Fuck Drakengard 3 forever.
 

Zafir

Member
I really don't agree that the writing in Drakengard 3 holds up. I thought it was terrible nearly across the board. Apparently there's novellas that assist in understanding the Sisters backstories? Meanwhile we have to listen to pages on pages of awful innuendos that are somehow supposed to be a substitute for actual character development. And then there's Accord, who by herself almost submarines every cutscene she's in.

After D1 and Nier I wanted to cut Taro a lot of slack, but this story is by far worse than Drakengard 2's, which is at worst cliche.
Yeah I didn't appreciate the writing at all. I thought it was awful, and honestly felt as if they were just trying too hard to be outrageous and funny.

Between that, and the fact that the game itself ran absolutely abysmally. I gave up the game after 5-10hoursish.
 

DVCY201

Member
Platinum Club, represent. I loved D3, and the story comes together nicely after completing all the branches. It isn't hard to understand. The only sleight against the game? DLC, because some of the stories are really important, like Two, Three, One.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Sequel to this!



Don't think Taro was involved in Drakengard 2 at all. It's a sequel to ending A of Drakengard 1. I was told to skip it and read/watch an LP and I'm glad I did. You have to replay the entire game over again on a harder mode to get the consecutive endings, and the main character looks and feels like he wandered in from a Tales game.

He wasn't. I'm still working on my copy. Jury's out on my opinion.


Also, D3's writing is so insane because he actually found out about the Dark Id's LP and deliberately broke the fourth wall. Or so the story goes.


I wish more RPGs had the protagonist murder the narrator during the prologue.

I'm usually down to play through some mediocre to okayish gameplay so I can get in on that Taro madness, but this game fucking sucked dog shit. I can't remember the last time I ever forced myself to finish a game like I did this one, but then all I got rewarded with was a triple down on the shitiness with that last boss.

Fuck Drakengard 3 forever.

I've played much, much, much worse games than Drakengard 3.

I'd happy play this again and again than ever touch the likes of Neptunia or Oneechanbara.
 

Manbig

Member
Didn't 8-4 play mention on their podcast that the localization changed the tone of Zero's character dramatically?
 

Dio

Banned
Platinum Club, represent. I loved D3, and the story comes together nicely after completing all the branches. The only sleight against the game? DLC, because some of the stories are really important, like Two, Three, One.
Platinum club reporting. I'd pay full price for a Bluepoint remaster that fixed the framerate and let the game run at a constant full 60.

Didn't 8-4 play mention on their podcast that the localization changed the tone of Zero's character dramatically?

Actually, yeah, they did. Zero's character is way more angry and pissed off IMO than she was in Japanese. The lines are similar, it's just the delivery that paints her differently. Then again I played with Japanese voices so I didn't play through the whole game with Eng dub, even though it was a really good eng dub.

Drakengard 3's dub is fantastic. Taro's games usually get great dubs actually, like Nier.

The problem with the dub, however, is that the main character Zero was characterized very differently in the dub via her voice than in the Japanese version.

Zero in Japanese is an aloof, murderous person who finds the people in her way to be 'exhausting' and would rather kill them than bother to talk to them, and go on her way.

The way the dub decided to characterize her was as an eternally angry character that came off really, really bitchy.

If you played the dub of Drakengard 3, you're almost getting a completely different version of Zero thanks to voice direction. I'm not saying Japanese Zero never got angry (she did,) I'm saying that a central part of her character finding everything a pain came off very differently in the dub. I was really glad I got the JP voice DLC for that game because of this difference.
 
Didn't 8-4 play mention on their podcast that the localization changed the tone of Zero's character dramatically?

I looked into that and I'm not convinced it matters a whole lot.

It seems the lines are mostly the same (the subtitles are) but Zero's inflections and voice are different.
 

Manbig

Member
I've played much, much, much worse games than Drakengard 3.

I'd happy play this again and again than ever touch the likes of Neptunia or Oneechanbara.

To clarify, I meant that I usually wouldn't force myself through a game that I was disliking as much as Drakengard 3, but I pushed through it because I knew it was a Taro game, and I feel that his stuff is worth experiencing.

Having finished that game 100%, I can honestly say that I have nothing but regrets and wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. I wouldn't say that for his other games though.
 
Yarp. The drakengards really make it clear that maaaaybe Taro should be relegated solely to design/concept/marketing roles.

Is part of why i'm getting the feeling that Automata will be the best of the lot.
 

DVCY201

Member
Platinum club reporting. I'd pay full price for a Bluepoint remaster that fixed the framerate and let the game run at a constant full 60.

Actually, yeah, they did. Zero's character is way more angry and pissed off IMO than she was in Japanese. Then again I played with Japanese voices so I didn't play through the whole game with Eng dub, even though it was a really good eng dub.

Ditto, I'd rebuy Nier and D3 Remastered.

And I agree, I found that Zero is more nonchalant/apathetic in the Japanese Dub. But in English, she's more harsh/critical. It can change your perception of the character unfortunately, because I still think the English Dub is good.
 

Manbig

Member
I agree that the English dub is good as far as line delivery went, but I can only imagine that such a shift in tone can really paint a character in a much different light.
 

Dio

Banned
Yarp. The drakengards really make it clear that maaaaybe Taro should be relegated solely to design/concept/marketing roles.

Is part of why i'm getting the feeling that Automata will be the best of the lot.

It's not really Taro's fault that the game runs like crap, by the way. It's an Access Games production, who did the epically technically flawed Deadly Premonition.
 
Yarp. The drakengards really make it clear that maaaaybe Taro should be relegated solely to design/concept/marketing roles.

Is part of why i'm getting the feeling that Automata will be the best of the lot.

Nah it makes me feel like he should do his thing but with experts around him like with Automata. Nobody designs games like he does (because its a bad idea, really) but he's one of the more experimental game designers out there. Kind of like gaming's David Lynch or Werner Herzog.

I expect some great shit.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
To clarify, I meant that I usually wouldn't force myself through a game that I was disliking as much as Drakengard 3, but I pushed through it because I knew it was a Taro game, and I feel that his stuff is worth experiencing.

Having finished that game 100%, I can honestly say that I have nothing but regrets and wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. I wouldn't say that for his other games though.

I always found it amusing that my then-gf was fascinated by the story, she always wanted me to tell her what was happening. Or she acted like she cared, either/or.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
Nah it makes me feel like he should do his thing but with experts around him like with Automata. Nobody designs games like he does (because its a bad idea, really) but he's one of the more experimental game designers out there. Kind of like gaming's David Lynch or Werner Herzog.

I expect some great shit.

The whole 'well, Platinum's doing it, I don't have to do shit but drink' attitude kind of makes me think he's at his best when he's dealing with ill equipped devs like Access. It's kind of the Taro charm.

The notion of an actual great game with his writing feels surreal.
 
The whole 'well, Platinum's doing it, I don't have to do shit but drink' attitude kind of makes me think he's at his best when he's dealing with ill equipped devs like Access. It's kind of the Taro charm.

The notion of an actual great game with his writing feels surreal.

As long as he doesn't attempt to the the Drakengard thing of "You're a murderer, you know that right? Should murdering really be enjoyable?" then Automata can be special.

That's what Drakengard 1 was, anyway and that concept really only works once, which is probably why Drakengard 3 went so heavy on the dark humor and sexual stuff.
 

renzolama

Member
I'd love to play this game, I'll add it to my justification list for re-buying a PS3. I recently added Yakuza 4 and 5, so combined with Killzone 2/3, Demon's Souls, SotC Remaster, and probably a few others I'm forgetting the list is probably almost complete.
 
It's not really Taro's fault that the game runs like crap, by the way. It's an Access Games production, who did the epically technically flawed Deadly Premonition.
I didnt even take into account performance, tbh. Just considered that it, much like the graphics, was a casulaty of a a shoestring budget. Is more from the perspective that what i like about his games are the concepts, world, characters, story and music, but never the gameplay. Which is part of why i tell peeps to read TheDarkId's LPs instead of playing the damn things.

So, yknow, match made in heaven with platinum and allathat.
Nah it makes me feel like he should do his thing but with experts around him like with Automata. Nobody designs games like he does (because its a bad idea, really) but he's one of the more experimental game designers out there. Kind of like gaming's David Lynch or Werner Herzog.

I expect some great shit.
I mean, i largely agree: let him design whatever he wants. Just... also let people that understand what constitutes good gameplay bring those concepts into reality.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
I didnt even take into account performance, tbh. Just considered that it, much like the graphics, was a casulaty of a a shoestring budget. Is more from the perspective that what i like about his games are the concepts, world, characters, story and music, but never the gameplay. Which is parte of why i tell peeps to read TheDarkId's LPs instead of playing the damn things.

So, yknow, match made in heaven with platinum and allathat.

Despite everyone telling me otherwise, I made a point of hunting down Drakengard 1 to play it myself. I'm glad I did. There's no substitute for diving in headlong.
 

Hastati

Member
Reading the OP I think you should write for and/or translate Yoko Taro games, you're a natural fit. Maybe you already do.

This makes me want to play it but that last boss sounds :|

At least Automata is coming soon!
 

Dio

Banned
I mean, i largely agree: let him design whatever he wants. Just... also let people that understand what constitutes good gameplay bring those concepts into reality.

Well, he's also said in interviews he's considered making a 3-minute long game that was 60 dollars, and a boss in a game that intentionally lowered the framerate. Both have potential, but are basically forbidden and off-limits for games to try.

Even if it was the most beautiful 3 minutes ever created, to paraphrase.
 

4Tran

Member
Mikhail : Mikhail used to be a big badass dragon with a booming voice but then he died or something and got reincarnated as a new personality. Mikhail is a child in intellect and morals, so he's pretty much the only decent, good-natured being in the game. His questions like "Do we really have to kill your sisters? Can't we just talk?" and "What's a virgin?" are immediately shot down by Zero (and everyone else) as soon as they leave his mouth.
Mikhail is the best, but he's surprisingly racist against wyverns.
 

Manbig

Member
Drakengard 1 was fun. Maybe not so much now if you've already played a lot of hack and slash games, it's hard to go back to, but it's a very unique package. The camera also isn't as offensive as it is in part 3. It also has some dumb fun giant combat areas where it really feels cool to fuck shit up with your dragon, unlike in Drakengard 3 where the combat areas are super confined and you only clear out a handful of enemies at a time.
 

SephLuis

Member
I've played much, much, much worse games than Drakengard 3.

I'd happy play this again and again than ever touch the likes of Neptunia or Oneechanbara.

I actually liked and had some enjoyment with the last Neptunia and Oneechanbara games so I have some good practice with crappy games. Even then, I was pushed to my limits when I played D1 after Nier.

I guess that's why I also liked D3 a lot. It's D1 insanity with not so shitty gameplay.

Platinum Club, represent. I loved D3, and the story comes together nicely after completing all the branches. It isn't hard to understand. The only sleight against the game? DLC, because some of the stories are really important, like Two, Three, One.

I also got the platinum, but I want to go back to it someday.....

To defeat that sob boss with the video >.>

As long as he doesn't attempt to the the Drakengard thing of "You're a murderer, you know that right? Should murdering really be enjoyable?" then Automata can be special.

That's what Drakengard 1 was, anyway and that concept really only works once, which is probably why Drakengard 3 went so heavy on the dark humor and sexual stuff.

Taro was saying he put a happy ending on Automata....

And honestly, that worries me a lot. How twisted can this happy get ?
 
Drakengard 1 was fun. Maybe not so much now if you've already played a lot of hack and slash games, it's hard to go back to, but it's a very unique package. The camera also isn't as offensive as it is in part 3. It also has some dumb fun giant combat areas where it really feels cool to fuck shit up with your dragon, unlike in Drakengard 3 where the combat areas are super confined and you only clear out a handful of enemies at a time.

The only time I had issues with enemy size was at the end of Three's DLC. Those guys are WAY too big.
 
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