CesspoolofHatred
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it's so rare to watch someone reach the final boss blind
This is gonna be a treat
all your links are descendus, brah
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LTTP: Drakengard 3 - Zero Fucks
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it's so rare to watch someone reach the final boss blind
This is gonna be a treat
all your links are descendus, brah
cj_iwakura
Member
Everything was descendus.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Dang it. Fixed.
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
Haha I was about to say, thanks for the links though
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah well the boss fight is twice as long so it probably evens out.
Throw a coin and decide based on that.
No one in their right mind is going to tell you to play it. The game has too many problems. Gameplay wise it would range from horrible to acceptable, that depending on how much you can tolerate the game technical shortcomings .
Story wise some love, others hate it. It's the kinda of thing you would have to see for yourself. The story certainly gets weirder and weirder by the moment.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
You probably shouldn't. The gameplay, graphics, and performance are a neverending dumpster fire, and the writing requires reading some hefty short stories to tie it together properly. It also helps to have some knowledge of Japanese idol culture.
But it is Taro Yoko through and through, and you won't find an experience quite like it anywhere else.
You could always read this LP of it. Spares you from the worst aspects of the game, and it includes the short stories at relevant points.
I speel my dreenk
Member
This is where I'm at, as well. Unlike Nier, I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone actually play it - but it was kind of amazing and I loved it.
If you platinum'd Drakengard 3, well done and congrats.
Also you're fucking insane
InsaneTiger
Member
I don't understand that boss fight. How are you "fighting" it?
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Mechanically -
it's a rhythm game where you press a button to hit the incoming notes. The player is the dragon on the bottom of the screen at the beginning, the rings are the notes.
I could see it as Mikhail absorbing the Flower's power to use a super energy blast, or just letting the women finally release all of the suffering and trauma that they've pent up and then Old Yellering them after they've had their catharsis.
InsaneTiger
Member
That whole thing is fucked up. The camera moves and the dragon moves fucking up the timing and trying to see the rings in relation to the dragon. WTF.
yep this is me (well other way around, Nier 1 then D1 then ain't gonna play D3 I'll just youtube because fuck this series lol).
Nier has a legit good story and fine characters. Drakengard is a "it's so bad it's good" levels and how crazy it can get.
Sometimes it feels like they were done by a different guy... until I read the Nier short stories and Drama CD lol
the trick is not to rely on the visuals. do it by ear instead - you can finish the whole thing with your eyes closed.
the only part i needed a visual aid for was the very last
troll
Just started this going off of NieR Automata's high.
Just beat five.Game is really fun so far.
The performance is abysmal ,but I can honestly say the core game is actually good. The game would be great if the performance was consistent.
OST is great.Its 19.99 on PSN for those wondering.
Just beat five.Game is really fun so far.
The performance is abysmal ,but I can honestly say the core game is actually good. The game would be great if the performance was consistent.
OST is great.Its 19.99 on PSN for those wondering.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Top tier title.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Picked this up a few weeks ago for $20 after reading this thread. Hope I enjoy it, never experienced anything Yoko Taro before
cj_iwakura
Member
Me and you both. Must not cave and read LP.
I didn't want to make a new thread with this one being fairly recent, but I have to say...what the hell am I playing?
I knew that Nier was well regarded in some circles, but never got around to picking it up. Earlier in the year I ran across it in a Gamestop for under $20, and grabbed it in case it got really popular with the release of Automata. People started gushing about Automata, and somehow I got interested in the weirdness of the whole series.
Not being able to find a copy of Drakengard easily, I read the LP, and decided then and there I have to play Nier and Drakengard 3. Nier was great. I did all of the endings except the final one because I didn't feel like grinding through everything.
I started playing Drakengard 3, and after a few chapters found the gameplay to be kind of dull. I considered quitting and just reading the LP before playing Automata, and then I defeated Five. The story was batshit enough to keep me playing, and I think I'm going to finish this game now.
But what the hell am I playing? As far as I can tell I'm a genocidal freak that can regenerate my body and I also steal the disciples of my sisters (all of whom I am trying to kill). Yeah, the framerate sucks, but I can look past it. The game seems to vacillate between horror and humor, seemingly on a whim. It's a real change of pace coming off of the more somber Nier, one that I really didn't expect. I'm glad I stuck with it, and it doesn't seem like it's a very long game either, so maybe I will look into the DLC before moving on to Automata. I'm glad games like this exist, warts and all.
I knew that Nier was well regarded in some circles, but never got around to picking it up. Earlier in the year I ran across it in a Gamestop for under $20, and grabbed it in case it got really popular with the release of Automata. People started gushing about Automata, and somehow I got interested in the weirdness of the whole series.
Not being able to find a copy of Drakengard easily, I read the LP, and decided then and there I have to play Nier and Drakengard 3. Nier was great. I did all of the endings except the final one because I didn't feel like grinding through everything.
I started playing Drakengard 3, and after a few chapters found the gameplay to be kind of dull. I considered quitting and just reading the LP before playing Automata, and then I defeated Five. The story was batshit enough to keep me playing, and I think I'm going to finish this game now.
But what the hell am I playing? As far as I can tell I'm a genocidal freak that can regenerate my body and I also steal the disciples of my sisters (all of whom I am trying to kill). Yeah, the framerate sucks, but I can look past it. The game seems to vacillate between horror and humor, seemingly on a whim. It's a real change of pace coming off of the more somber Nier, one that I really didn't expect. I'm glad I stuck with it, and it doesn't seem like it's a very long game either, so maybe I will look into the DLC before moving on to Automata. I'm glad games like this exist, warts and all.
A bad game that has like one or two moments worth remembering. The story is awful by Taro standards - it's simultaneously too weird and not weird enough. The characters are fucking terrible and substitute innuendos every 30 seconds in gameplay for character development. The actual meat of the development is done in novellas not included with the game, and a result all the sisters are boring wretches of antagonists.
Part of the reason I hate this game's story so much is because I know from Nier that Taro can do much better.
Just keep playing bro, it's an amazing game. The kind you can only get from Yoko Taro.
As with all his games you gotta keep playing and going through all the story routes to get a proper picture of what's going on. You've just seen the tip of the iceberg.
Zero is easily one of my most fave female characters.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
Drakengard 3 is just really meh. It's not as absolutely crazy as 1 or as well written as Nier so it's just pretty much a really mediocre hack and slash with only a few good moments.
Did the novellas or whatever ever come stateside?
I will probably check out the LP when I'm done with this game regardless. I got a lot of the backstory from Nier from it. I'm not sure where that information was sourced from, but it filled in a more complete picture going from the end of Drakengard through the start of Nier.
I will probably check out the LP when I'm done with this game regardless. I got a lot of the backstory from Nier from it. I'm not sure where that information was sourced from, but it filled in a more complete picture going from the end of Drakengard through the start of Nier.
All but two are available officially here
http://drakengardgame.com/
The other two you can read as fantranslation over here
http://drakengard.wikia.com/wiki/Novellas
However these two are pretty spoilery
Already played through Nier and I'm a good ways into Drakengard 3, so it's probably too late for this advice.
I prefer playing the games over videos anyway.
cj_iwakura
Member
Same way I felt. That's why I played Drakengard 1 personally.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I don't think a ~2 hour (for Nier) youtube summary is a very good substitute for an entire game that is best known for its character interactions, music, and gameplay-narrative synergy
I've played this game for the first time recently so this topic is kinda convenient
Couldn't beat the final boss, got to almost the end of it then lost the last 2 notes in a 3double note string so i said "fuck it"
The game is funny, but it really didn't click with me like Nier: Automata did, the plot felt silly and most character i loved i just loved to hate(dito you sick lil bastard )
I wish they'd explain more in game because since i borrowed the game i didn't want to bother buying the dlc, but it looks like the best parts of the plot are there :/ .A lot of questions i had about the game wouldn't be answered unless i read some novella online too, and that was a bummer considering how nier:a explained almost everything you needed to know in game
This was my first drakengard game though and i kinda want to play the first too, it was crazy enough that i really wanna see how the other yoko taro games are
It also seemed like a pretty hard game befor i've learnt the spear combo, that shit is so cheap...
Couldn't beat the final boss, got to almost the end of it then lost the last 2 notes in a 3double note string so i said "fuck it"
The game is funny, but it really didn't click with me like Nier: Automata did, the plot felt silly and most character i loved i just loved to hate(dito you sick lil bastard
)I wish they'd explain more in game because since i borrowed the game i didn't want to bother buying the dlc, but it looks like the best parts of the plot are there :/ .A lot of questions i had about the game wouldn't be answered unless i read some novella online too, and that was a bummer considering how nier:a explained almost everything you needed to know in game
This was my first drakengard game though and i kinda want to play the first too, it was crazy enough that i really wanna see how the other yoko taro games are
It also seemed like a pretty hard game befor i've learnt the spear combo, that shit is so cheap...
I've played this game for the first time recently so this topic is kinda convenient
Couldn't beat the final boss, got to almost the end of it then lost the last 2 notes in a 3double note string so i said "fuck it"
The game is funny, but it really didn't click with me like Nier: Automata did, the plot felt silly and most character i loved i just loved to hate(dito you sick lil bastard
I wish they'd explain more in game because since i borrowed the game i didn't want to bother buying the dlc, but it looks like the best parts of the plot are there :/ .A lot of questions i had about the game wouldn't be answered unless i read some novella online too, and that was a bummer considering how nier:a explained almost everything you needed to know in game
This was my first drakengard game though and i kinda want to play the first too, it was crazy enough that i really wanna see how the other yoko taro games are
It also seemed like a pretty hard game befor i've learnt the spear combo, that shit is so cheap...
You sure you can handle that? :>
Just lemme warn you, gameplaywise, this game is 100% tedium and it goes actively out of its way to be as frustrating as possible.
It's also Yoko Taro at his most unleashed, it's probably not gonna feature most of the things you liked about Automata, but it's also by far the most insane thing he's done.
Did you listen to some bits of Drakengard 1's OST yet? Cos that delivers a very good first impression.
In regards to Drakengard 3, that game was rushed and had virtually no budget. They couldn't even afford PS4 devkits. While it's definitely unfortunate that important things like, well, character development of all characters that aren't Zero or Mikhail were relegated out into other stuff, i suppose there wasn't much they could've done to prevent that.
I've started the game two years ago but the weapon switching felt too slow(might be just my ps2 giving up though) so yeah i know how bad the game is, but i like to play things mostly because of the plot and that game already felt way better than 3 on that regard, i think i should make the most of my Yoko Taro hype phase or else i'll never play 1
I gave up on the final verse of 3 mostly because of lazyness and the ability of watching the gamescenes online(i saw it through my friend playing before too...lets just say i saw the real ending of that game too many times to bother getting it in a "legit" way, or else my friend will never get his game back), i'll probably try harder in draken 1
Really, i'm in for the crackpot plot twists, not for platinum quality of combos, thanks for the warning though
Edit: this game deserved a bigger budget than it got, getting platinum to do Nier:Automata was a miracle, and I hope it allows Yoko to do more of his crazy games
momshotdad
Member
Such an insane game and I loved every second. It's my favorite bad game I've ever played.
cosmicspooks
Member
Drakengard 3 is secretly my fav Taro game. Even within his own work there doesn't exist anything quite like 3. It's an absolute insane, borderline broken mess and more games should follow its example
snow in jamaica
Member
I probably could have found a copy on eBay, but I just didn't want to go through the trouble so I just stuck with the LP on that one. The other two I was able to pick up for under $20 each at area Gamestops so I figured what the hell.
cj_iwakura
Member
I got Drakengard 1 for $20 off Ebay three years ago. Still seems to go for that.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
That's definitely what
the Flower/Intoners were doing, but do you think that was what Mikhail was doing too?
snow in jamaica
Member
Well...
maybe he was just taking the brunt of it, like he had been throughout the game. Or something
dongs
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Yeah, that was my read too.
The Intoners are singing about their suffering/struggles, and Mikhail listens and endures.
That's a really cool parallel that I never thought to draw -
the final boss is just Mikhail swallowing Zero's verbal abuse like he always did.
cj_iwakura
Member
Oh, you sweet summer child. It gets worse.
Haha, I didn't play much last night but I actually made it to undead enemies that are bolstered by spirits, and then some trolls that weren't too bad if I used bracers.
Basically whenever I've gotten annoyed I've just started firing off Intoner mode to power through. Summoning Mikhail doesn't ever really seem to help so now I'm swearing at him too.
CannonFodder52
Member
Love hearing people's experiences with this game.