
Edit: 1:10:00 or so, Steven notes a slight shake in Joe raising his coffee, sees it with his own lens and throws a playful gotcha at him that deflects back and forth in breezy volleys of mutual personal insight...that they're each smirking slyly for. They're both keen observers and storytellers, there's mutual respect and honesty but they're both playing mind games with each other the whole time too. Who's interviewing whom? Mmm.
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