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Mad Men - Season 7, Part 2 - The End of an Era - AMC Sundays
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So Mad Men was just an origin story for the Coke ad?
All joking aside, I'd always imagined that we were going to get something more bombastic. I always thought that Don's false identity would catch up with him and it would lead to drastic measures. It's actually very surprising to me that they didn't take that route.
Not sure how much I liked the final season in the end. It wasn't bad, but it didn't exactly live up to my expectations.
All joking aside, I'd always imagined that we were going to get something more bombastic. I always thought that Don's false identity would catch up with him and it would lead to drastic measures. It's actually very surprising to me that they didn't take that route.
Not sure how much I liked the final season in the end. It wasn't bad, but it didn't exactly live up to my expectations.
When Don was hammered with all those vets at the fundraiser and they were trying to get him to share some stories in The Milk and Honey Route I thought for sure that was exactly where the series was going.
Yeah, that was the point where I thought it was all going to start going downhill and then it just... doesn't. I feel like Matthew Weiner knew that was how everyone thought it was going to go and then just wrote something completely different. He even kind of put some misdirection in with Don pushing on the window when they moved to the new building (I was positive that that was going to be foreshadowing of him jumping out of it).
I don't really know how I feel about it, to be honest. I want to like it, but I'm not sure if I do.
Many are actually surprised with how definite the ending was, myself included, I thought we would get much more of a non-ending.
It's just not the show Mad Men was, it getting bombastic shit-just-got-real ending would be kinda like a family sitcom becoming mob story in it's final arc and ending in a shoot-out, or Dexter getting a satisfying conclusion. Some things just weren't meant to be.
It's just not the show Mad Men was, it getting bombastic shit-just-got-real ending would be kinda like a family sitcom becoming mob story in it's final arc and ending in a shoot-out, or Dexter getting a satisfying conclusion. Some things just weren't meant to be.
Supercollider
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This is one of the greatest moments in the entire series. It's striking and poignant. I was fairly certain that Don was never going to jump out of any windows, so I didn't view this as misdirection. At any rate, the fact that Don didn't commit suicide doesn't really take anything away from this moment; its intrigue exceeds that particular interpretation.
Were we watching the same show? The finale was way more conclusive than almost anyone in this thread expected.
He had the final scene written during Season 4. Only told Jon Hamm.
Mhmm. Weiner knew the ending of Don and Betty in between the break of season 4 and 5.
There's something wrong with me. It's so easy for me to re-watch mad men multiple times. I'm now starting again for 3rd time and I had just re-watched over the last 2 months. I have so many new shows to watch too, but re-watching Mad Men.
Looking back on it, it was one of my favourite tv shows of all time.
Looking back on it, it was one of my favourite tv shows of all time.
Mad Men has never been about the drama.
I wasn't surprised that the ending was about Don evolving as a person.
Man, I hear you. I want to start from the beginning again.
But.... I haven't seen The Sopranos yet.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
goddammit Sal.
Don Draper's Hat
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I would have liked to have seen Pete confront Don at least once more about his real identity.
I think they grew past that around season 4 when Pete helped in conceal his identity, and in return Don paid for Pete's portion of a loan or something iirc.
Ignatz Mouse
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I'm pretty pissed we didn't get the bottlers convention!
/s
Seriously, Sal....
Also, I was thinking the other day that if AMC had insisted Better Call Saul style on some spinoff, that a Jimmy/Bobbie Barrett show would make good television.
Didn't know/remember that Harry got divorced. Makes all kinds of sense.
/s
Seriously, Sal....
Also, I was thinking the other day that if AMC had insisted Better Call Saul style on some spinoff, that a Jimmy/Bobbie Barrett show would make good television.
Didn't know/remember that Harry got divorced. Makes all kinds of sense.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Weiner didn't want Chauncey in the final season?
Yeah, I think that was already covered a few seasons ago.
Yeah, I think that was already covered a few seasons ago.
Supercollider
Banned
I feel like there's a Mad Men shaped hole in my life now. I'm really going to miss this show. I always feel kind of down after a show ends.
Where else will I find a show that is so rich with so many quietly unfolding and deeply devastating bits of profundity and/or poignancy?
- Don sadly murmuring "it's my birthday" to a flight stewardess ("Out of Town")
- Don crossing the street to a new apartment in the Village as Roy Orbison sings "Shahdaroba" ("Shut the Door. Have a Seat")
- Don's pensive gaze out the window after a hasty engagement ("Tomorrowland")
- Pete tearfully confessing, "I have nothing, Don." ("Signal 30")
- Don's troubled gaze down an empty elevator shaft ("Lady Lazarus")
- Don disclosing a long withheld piece of himself to his daughter as a gesture of amends, affection, and something like transparency ("In Care Of"), and then later seeing that affection reciprocated, which seems to strike him right in the heart ("A Day's Work")
- "We know where we've been; we know where we are. Let's assume that it's good...but it's gonna' get better. It's supposed to get better." ("The Forecast")
- Don driving onward, in a fog of discontentment and uncertainty, as David Bowie's "Space Oddity" plays ("Lost Horizon"), etc.
I could have listed so many other moments. Easily.
This was such a substantial show, and it offered some really distinct pleasures. It's an enormous achievement. I don't want to replace it, but I wish I could find a serialized drama that delivers this same level of insight and that is as closely engaged with the interior longings and dissatisfactions of its characters.
Where else will I find a show that is so rich with so many quietly unfolding and deeply devastating bits of profundity and/or poignancy?
- Don sadly murmuring "it's my birthday" to a flight stewardess ("Out of Town")
- Don crossing the street to a new apartment in the Village as Roy Orbison sings "Shahdaroba" ("Shut the Door. Have a Seat")
- Don's pensive gaze out the window after a hasty engagement ("Tomorrowland")
- Pete tearfully confessing, "I have nothing, Don." ("Signal 30")
- Don's troubled gaze down an empty elevator shaft ("Lady Lazarus")
- Don disclosing a long withheld piece of himself to his daughter as a gesture of amends, affection, and something like transparency ("In Care Of"), and then later seeing that affection reciprocated, which seems to strike him right in the heart ("A Day's Work")
- "We know where we've been; we know where we are. Let's assume that it's good...but it's gonna' get better. It's supposed to get better." ("The Forecast")
- Don driving onward, in a fog of discontentment and uncertainty, as David Bowie's "Space Oddity" plays ("Lost Horizon"), etc.
I could have listed so many other moments. Easily.
This was such a substantial show, and it offered some really distinct pleasures. It's an enormous achievement. I don't want to replace it, but I wish I could find a serialized drama that delivers this same level of insight and that is as closely engaged with the interior longings and dissatisfactions of its characters.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Have you watched The Wire?
The Wire and The Sopranos are exactly what you are looking for if you haven't seen them.
Supercollider
Banned
No. It's a significant TV blindspot for me. I hope to rectify this soon.
The Sopranos as well, actually.
Leona Lewis
Banned
Well, looks like your hole will be filled soon
I still need to watch The Sopranos, now that I think about it.
Supercollider
Banned
Well, looks like your hole will be filled soon
Well, nothing will ever replace Mad Men for me but, yeah, I'm sure I'm missing out on a lot of similarly great television. Or perhaps something even better. We'll see. I just wish I was experiencing that familiar melancholy of former years, where you're sad because you just watched the finale, but you know SC&P (or any of its former appellations) will be back next year. Now it's just gone. It felt like the right time to end it, and yet I also feel like I could have watched so many more seasons of this show.
I went through the whole series again before the final set of episodes, and that really strengthened my attachment and my admiration.
Another show that often reached Mad Men-esque highs is Enlightened (which also came to mind a few times during "Person to Person").
BenjaminBirdie
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Neither of those shows are as incredibly subtle as Mad Men although they both have their sublime benefits.
The only other show that's existed that held to Mad Men's belief that you didn't need bombastic plot to tell a phenomenal story was Deadwood. Enjoy.
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I really, really miss Enlightened.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I envy you your fresh viewing of some excellent television.
Ignatz Mouse
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You mean that show about the guy who's just above the top tier in his organization, excellent at his job, but has a secret that would get him ousted?
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
The Wire is thematically quite similar to Mad men.
It has a similar approach to building a believable world. Though it is grander in scale and more explicitly political (probably by virtue of being current-ish).
Fallout-NL
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Supercollider
Banned
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm still feeling melancholic when I think about this show. =( I can't pick up any of those shows right at this moment, but it will happen eventually.
For fun, here's another great moment that has intermittently returned to me again and again ever since I saw it. It's from "The Summer Man" (did people around here like that episode?). Dr. Miller and Don are having dinner, and Don tells her that he's "been a little bit out of sorts lately," and how he's been swimming, etc. Dr. Miller's response is "when I'm out of sorts, I look at the calendar. There's usually something significant on the horizon." I like that. Why did Don let her go? =( I know why, but still...
Also, wow, "The Summer Man" is really quite representative of what makes this show special. That final moment, with Don picking up Gene and Betty ambiguously gazing ahead? Superb. I know Matt Weiner prefers this one to the previous episode, the much lauded "The Suitcase." He was dismayed when he found out that a lot of people liked "The Suitcase" more than "The Summer Man."
They rarely ever lean into the sensational or the lurid in this show (which makes those rare exceptions all the more impactful). There's lots of great television that trades in that sort of thing, and I don't want to condescend to those who do it well (Breaking Bad, for instance, which is exceptional because it marries its over the top thrills with great character development and moments where characters reveal themselves in a variety of devastating ways).
With Mad Men, though, it's like...Don and Dr. Miller are having dinner and this man is trying to be a better person, and it's all tremendously fascinating. Two people sitting down to dinner after several episodes of flirtations, conflict, and rejections. There are no box cutters in drawers here. There's no Hitchcockian bomb under the table. As Weiner has said, the drama unfolds on a very human scale (it turns on the power of a reproachful glance, like what Don flashes in Season 3 when he sees Roger in blackface, or the glances exchanged between Sally and Don at the end of season 6). Plus, it subsists on the magnetism of its actors (Jon Hamm is eminently watchable), as well as the credible and totally absorbing dialogue. So much of what happens seems like a miniature representation of so much internal pushing and pulling (in one moment, you think, Don's getting better, he's trying; and then, at another moment in the series, you're like: this man seems irrevocably adrift and broken and it's heartbreaking). "The Summer Man" is actually an episode where Don's thoughts are written and narrated aloud, so it's different from most MM episodes in that respect, but I feel like that's an important part of the episode; he's looking inward finally, he's thinking about who he is -- but not for long (I think Weiner's commentary on this episode helped me clarify this point, although it's pretty self-evident).
For fun, here's another great moment that has intermittently returned to me again and again ever since I saw it. It's from "The Summer Man" (did people around here like that episode?). Dr. Miller and Don are having dinner, and Don tells her that he's "been a little bit out of sorts lately," and how he's been swimming, etc. Dr. Miller's response is "when I'm out of sorts, I look at the calendar. There's usually something significant on the horizon." I like that. Why did Don let her go? =( I know why, but still...
Also, wow, "The Summer Man" is really quite representative of what makes this show special. That final moment, with Don picking up Gene and Betty ambiguously gazing ahead? Superb. I know Matt Weiner prefers this one to the previous episode, the much lauded "The Suitcase." He was dismayed when he found out that a lot of people liked "The Suitcase" more than "The Summer Man."
They rarely ever lean into the sensational or the lurid in this show (which makes those rare exceptions all the more impactful). There's lots of great television that trades in that sort of thing, and I don't want to condescend to those who do it well (Breaking Bad, for instance, which is exceptional because it marries its over the top thrills with great character development and moments where characters reveal themselves in a variety of devastating ways).
With Mad Men, though, it's like...Don and Dr. Miller are having dinner and this man is trying to be a better person, and it's all tremendously fascinating. Two people sitting down to dinner after several episodes of flirtations, conflict, and rejections. There are no box cutters in drawers here. There's no Hitchcockian bomb under the table. As Weiner has said, the drama unfolds on a very human scale (it turns on the power of a reproachful glance, like what Don flashes in Season 3 when he sees Roger in blackface, or the glances exchanged between Sally and Don at the end of season 6). Plus, it subsists on the magnetism of its actors (Jon Hamm is eminently watchable), as well as the credible and totally absorbing dialogue. So much of what happens seems like a miniature representation of so much internal pushing and pulling (in one moment, you think, Don's getting better, he's trying; and then, at another moment in the series, you're like: this man seems irrevocably adrift and broken and it's heartbreaking). "The Summer Man" is actually an episode where Don's thoughts are written and narrated aloud, so it's different from most MM episodes in that respect, but I feel like that's an important part of the episode; he's looking inward finally, he's thinking about who he is -- but not for long (I think Weiner's commentary on this episode helped me clarify this point, although it's pretty self-evident).
Cornballer
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PetriP-TNT
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Finally catched up. Loved the last half.
Mad Men was one of those shows that I couldn't find time to watch when they started but later binge-catched up and loved it (together with Breaking Bad). Great show.
Mad Men was one of those shows that I couldn't find time to watch when they started but later binge-catched up and loved it (together with Breaking Bad). Great show.
Guys, I can't move on.
I wish it was yesterday.
I've really been feeling it lately. hard to accept that's all there is.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I've been rewatching S7.1. It's soooooooo good.
Seeing Sally wish Betty was "in the ground" and talking about what a corpse looked like at a funeral (which sounded like a cancer victim) was pretty unsettling.
Seeing Sally wish Betty was "in the ground" and talking about what a corpse looked like at a funeral (which sounded like a cancer victim) was pretty unsettling.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Does anyone know if they're going to release season 7 part 2 on blu-ray? I can't find any pre-order listings for it. (I also can't find Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 on blu-ray, which is weird.)
They've confirmed they're going to do a big mega season set, I'd maybe expect the announcement of S8's blu release when they announce that... but I'm still waiting.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I see. Seems like we're gonna have to wait a little while longer then.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
eurgh, the spine of the season 6 blu ray doesn't match the other season's spines :/
you had one job Lionsgate :/
you had one job Lionsgate :/
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Emmy noms announced!
This had better be Jon Hamm's year.
This had better be Jon Hamm's year.
Has to.
StopMakingSense
Member
Watch him win for Kimmy Schmidt and not Mad Men.