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Media Create figures - June 19 to June 25
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I don't think the DS has sold well because it's named "DS." I think it's sold well because much of the software is very, very, very simple, which is apparently what Japan wants right now. I would argue that the software on Wii, particularly from what I've seen of Mario Galaxy, does not carry that same spirit from DS, even if the game is spectacular. I think Japan didn't like Super Mario Sunshine primarily because it was complicated, unlike the 2D Mario games, which are extremely simple and easy to pick up and play.
LanceStern
Banned
I'm very pleased to see sales of New Super Mario Bros., Animal Crossing, and the good legs of Children of Mana. Also surprisingly good to see MEtroid Prime Hunters still there.
I wish Japan would drop off the Brain Training fad, or at LEAST pick up a few games like Kirby, Castlevania, Advance Wars, Magical Vacation, Ouendan, Meteos, etc...
Oh well, at least Nintendo's got them a phenomenon on their hands
I wish Japan would drop off the Brain Training fad, or at LEAST pick up a few games like Kirby, Castlevania, Advance Wars, Magical Vacation, Ouendan, Meteos, etc...
Oh well, at least Nintendo's got them a phenomenon on their hands
marvelharvey
Member
Y2Kevbug11 said:
The initial shipment was either 60k or 80k, but it took forever to sell out. Thankfully, there has been a recent reprint and it's back on sale.
loosus said:
But that's not the general concensus, espcially over gameplay mechanics. NSMB feels like a Mario game whereas Sunshine felt like a game trying to be Mario. We've seen countless times how fickle Japanese consumers are over such matters through the sales drops in the coming weeks.
loosus said:
Leading up to Sunshine it was selling 8-10k a week. It was being outsold by the PS2 5-6:1. The mometeum was gone. And there were no big upcoming releases to push sales. Time means nothing if the hardware isn't selling and there is stigma contracted to a game. GCN was basically then what the PSP is now.
loosus said:
In part because of the userbase. And because buying DS games is becoming a habbit. It's the go to system for new purchases. I read nothing into it suggesting the preferences of the gaming community at large. It's incidental.
imastalker co.
Banned
but the question was "what if?"
great question i think. would be damn interesting if FFIII managed to outsell XII.
great question i think. would be damn interesting if FFIII managed to outsell XII.
cvxfreak said:
Yeah, that's in-line with my expectations, too.
imastalker co. said:
It's not that great a question because it's just too improbable... it's too outside the realm of what's likely to happen that there's not even a real point in looking at it as a worthwhile hypothetical.
imastalker co.
Banned
ok, how's this then.
how would Square-Enix react, and change their business plans if Final Fantasy III outsold XII? with what? 1/10 of the userbase?
how would Square-Enix react, and change their business plans if Final Fantasy III outsold XII? with what? 1/10 of the userbase?
soundwave05
Member
FFIII outselling FFXII? That's not gonna happen, just because for starters it's a remake.
However if FFIII (not to mention Mario Basketball) put up strong sales, I think you'll see much stronger ties between Square-Enix and Nintendo.
Which means a Nintendo-Square-Enix Hearts RPG will have to happen ... a game like *that* could theoretically outsell the main line Final Fantasy games IMO. Japan would turn into a riot zone.
However if FFIII (not to mention Mario Basketball) put up strong sales, I think you'll see much stronger ties between Square-Enix and Nintendo.
Which means a Nintendo-Square-Enix Hearts RPG will have to happen ... a game like *that* could theoretically outsell the main line Final Fantasy games IMO. Japan would turn into a riot zone.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Well, in Japan DS is more like 1/3 to 1/2 of PS2 by now.imastalker co. said:
I don't think it even requires saying, though, that if FF III passed 2 million they'd try to throw a lot more at DS.
Terrell said:
Animal Crossing is a bit of a special case. it's been around as a game for 10 years now and had modest sales, but did not hit its target audience until the DS hit in Japan. There's something about having a portable living town with you that's very appealing.
On a related note, how many units has it sold World Wide, outside of japan?
Deku said:
Miyamoto said that Animal Crossing DS had surpassed Nintendo's projections by 4. He also said that middle aged men designed it and Animal Crossing wasn't originally intended for a young females audience (like, say, Nintendogs).
Since the DS is finding its ways to non-gamers and females, perhaps that is why the DS version exploded (as Animal Crossing would appeal to those demographics instead of the usual gamer).
Whether Final Fantasy 3 appeals to those new demographics (like New Super Mario Brothers and Animal Crossing DS do) remains the big wildcard. The DS is so unpredictable in Japan that I have no idea. Didn't Nintendo tell their shareholders at the meeting today that they would have enough DSes in stock for the Final Fantasy III release? That could be a indicator of something interesting to occur.
Kirby did sell decently, CV and Advance Wars seem to have not appealed to Japanese tastes even before the release of Brain Training (for whatever bizarre reason), and Ouendan and Meteos probably got limited print runs.LanceStern said:
Not sure what went wrong with Magical Vacation, though.
A Link to the Past
Banned
loosus said:
You are total ass
imastalker co.
Banned
stupid, you.
Walter Matthau
Member
I'm interested in seeing how Final Fantasy III sells. My guess is somewhere around 1 million, but it could go much higher (or only break 500k).
Walter Matthau
Member
soundwave05 said:
If such a game were to come out, the only games in history to outsell it would be Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Land, and Tetris. Even Drinky would buy 2 copies.
DefectiveReject
Banned
FFIII will sell 500,000+ in its first week, possibly more (When did it get delayed to August?)
Hopefully the likes of Mario and the DS has awoken Japan to Nintendo again and it has a knock on effect. The market seems to be SOOOO much more lively than it has in a LOOONG time, and it has to be down to the DS/lite. If Wii can get a similar line up of games out in the first 6 months theres no reason why it cant ride this wave. The market has been invigorated, lets hope it stays that way.
Hopefully the likes of Mario and the DS has awoken Japan to Nintendo again and it has a knock on effect. The market seems to be SOOOO much more lively than it has in a LOOONG time, and it has to be down to the DS/lite. If Wii can get a similar line up of games out in the first 6 months theres no reason why it cant ride this wave. The market has been invigorated, lets hope it stays that way.
Operations
Member
The handheld market certainly has. I'm not so sure if the console market will experiment such unprecedented success, even with Wii.DefectiveReject said:
DefectiveReject
Banned
i beg to differ.Operations said:
The console market just doesn't have the continued line up of different new games that the DS has bought to the table. its the same old re-hashed rubbish. The DS games are different, thanks to the DS itself, and people trying something new. Wii can replicate this in a way by offering "Something Different".
Nintendo market Wii like a home based DS and away we go, maybe not as quick an uptake but cheap price lots of games and something new, and away we go.
I said this in another thread and I'll say it here...Jiggy37 said:
Magical Vacation came out the exact same day as Valkyrie Profile Silmeria. RPG gamers were getting their itch scratched somewhere else. Nintendo would have been better off releasing this 2 weeks earlier or later.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Deku said:
fixed
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
New Super Mario Bros.'s performance is amazing. Ioi said that it is the 6th best 5th-week ever, isn't it ?
It would be interesting to know what is the % of the Software sold for Nintendo DS in comparison to the rest.
That's why we know that Nintendo DS's Hardware has the 75-80% of the market in Japan, since the end of shortages, but it is unknown his Software's market share.
It would be interesting to know what is the % of the Software sold for Nintendo DS in comparison to the rest.
That's why we know that Nintendo DS's Hardware has the 75-80% of the market in Japan, since the end of shortages, but it is unknown his Software's market share.