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600K+ a week like last year.mj1108 said:If these 150k weeks are the new "norm", what the hell is going to happen come Pokemon and the holiday season??
although i still think im selling the system short even then.
600K+ a week like last year.mj1108 said:If these 150k weeks are the new "norm", what the hell is going to happen come Pokemon and the holiday season??
I don't have a link, but I was just in a convenience store buying some strawberry milk and saw a big preorder ad. But that doesn't mean anything by itself; I'm sure they also had plenty of preorder signage for FFVII DoC, which was one of the biggest turds ever dropped onto this country.charlequin said:Anyone got a link to the post about how even the convenience stores in Japan are now taking preorders for FFIII, and the convenience stores in Japan only carry games that are absolutely guaranteed to be huge?
melvoin said:These are three major 3rd parties I could find off hand. I challenge you DS fanboys to show me some major 3rd party lineups(besides Square Enix) where DS is similarly outnumbering PSP... or even beating it at all.
This is what's really happening. It's time some of you started to wake up.
The days of street fighter, FF, and DQ that you're referring to are from well over a decade ago. The industry has changed.
Kobun Heat said:What makes me so sure is a combination of things. Hot console, one of the most popular franchises, simple gameplay, cross-generational appeal, a country blanketed in ads, released right in the middle of one of the biggest game-buying seasons... there's simply no reason to doubt it.
That is a good question. Looking back at systems like PS1, WonderSwan Color, SwanCrystal, and Game Boy Advance, they were at least consistently getting multiple dozen when they stopped being listed. I guess Xbox has only been consistently under 100 for about 3 months now, though, so maybe it won't be much longer. Or maybe they're waiting for GBA to get just a bit lamer so they can drop them together.Mrbob said:10? lol!
Why is Xbox still being counted? 10 for the whole week, hilarious.
GameCube didn't matter in Japan either, though, relative to PS2. If anything, GameCube versus Xbox shows that being a distant second in one territory doesn't guarantee you'll be in second place in another territory.AniHawk said:Japan doesn't matter. If Japan mattered, the Xbox would've lost to the Gamecube.
AniHawk said:Japan doesn't matter. If Japan mattered, the Xbox 360 would've lost to the Gamecube.
AniHawk said:Japan doesn't matter. If Japan mattered, the Xbox would've lost to the Gamecube.
gconsole said:I assume you knew that GC sold only 3M+ in japan.
GC sold 4m units buddygconsole said:I assume you knew that GC sold only 3M+ in japan.
JoshuaJSlone said:GameCube didn't matter in Japan either, though, relative to PS2. If anything, GameCube versus Xbox shows that being a distant second in one territory doesn't guarantee you'll be in second place in another territory.
Fuzzy said:YTD / LTD
DS - 902,788 / 6,549,740
DSL - 2,486,643
Combined - 3,389,431 / 9,036,383
PSP - 895,004 / 3,577,966
Two more weeks and the combined DS YTD will be higher than the PSP LTD.
Lapsed said:The problem for the Sony fan is that it is no longer 1996 but 2006 (just as the problem for the Nintendo fan ten years ago was that it was no longer 1986 but 1996). Nothing on that worldview list really holds up anymore. But it won't matter, the Sony fan will pull one of those out each different time.
The industry IS changing though. The Nintendo under Iwata is completely different than the Nintendo under Yamauchi. The Sony of today (where they are betting the company on the PS3) is different than the Sony of yesterday (where every part of the company was healthy). And instead of cash starved Sega, we have money drunk Microsoft.
Third parties gravitate towards the console in which they can make the most money. Nintendo's contracts of yesteryear really compromised that. But today, the biggest difference seen through third party publishers' eyes now is cost. Development costs were way too high last generation, this next generation the HD gaming will break the back of too many budgets except for the biggest companies (which our friend, above, only wants to focus on). The industry will also change because third parties handle disruption technologies differently. Electronic Arts, who for some reason cannot handle disruption technology, will stumble. Atlus, who appears to be embracing the disruptive element, will reap the awards.
I think many of the Sony fans thought the DS "blip" in Japan was just a fad. It was inevitable that the PSP would rise to the top while DS sank. But it is not inevitable. And the future cannot be that easily predicted. It is very probable that the Wii could take over Japan in the same fashion the DS had. Games such as Animal Crossing WW are outselling Final Fantasy 12. A Mario game is raking in monster sales and is sitting at the top of the sales charts in all countries. Change is happening.
What scares them, I think, is that they ought to realize by now that the DS is not a fad. And that Japan may become the deciding market in the console wars to come. Even more worrisome is that the trends of Japan may catch on in the markets in the West.
Remember how everyone said Brain Trainer wouldn't sell in the West? Yeah. Whatever is happening in Japan is slowly spreading throughout the rest of the world...
koam said:Thanks, here are the forecasted numbers..
AniHawk said:
Rise to heaven, bitches.
sure. it's the weekly japan feature from tim rogers:jesusraz said:So, Pink DS Lite in time the Cooking game, and two more colours for Pokémon D/P? Bloody hell...Where's that touch-screen PSP when Sony needs it most?! :lol
By the way, can you post more details of that story as I can't access that site at work, please?
...New DS Lite Colors
Nintendo announced a new pink DS Lite, coming July 20th. It is about the same pink as the original pink DS, leaving me to wonder if a blue one isn't far behind. I have heard rumors from very reliable sources that there are two new colors coming in October, which would coincide with the release of the new Pokemon game. My friend and I brainstormed what new colors they'd be, seeing as the new Pokemon games are "Diamond" and "Pearl." Would they be "Clear" and "Cream"? That would certainly fit out modern monochrome aesthetic, now, wouldn't it? "Clear" though -- I'm fairly certain that the era of transparent / translucent electronics is completely behind us. We all know iPod white is the new clear.
If they really want to mark the tenth anniversary of Pokemon, they can just make Red and Green DS Lites. That would be perfect. For the kids, you see. ("The kids" includes me.)...
Kobun Heat said:Oh, quite to the contrary. It can easily be overstated. In fact, the context in which it was used in the very post you replied to is an example of how this comment can be overstated.
Final Fantasy III is as close to a sure thing as there is right now.
You need a little help with math.Mithos Yggdrasill said:Well, what I found most amazing in DS's performance is that it sells ALWAYS around 150-200k. And that's means 1 million pro month.
In 1 year, Nintendo DS LTD will be higher then PS2 LTD: absurde !!! And this without count December.
Azelover said:Exactly, the japanese market is important if you have big enough an impact there, it's no wonder since the NES all systems that got to leadership in Japan rose to the same status worldwide. Japan wasn't very important for Genesis as a market either, but overall Japan didn't lose its importance just because the 16-bit war got all the attention in the US(and made the most money), it still pretty much called the shots of who would lead if you watch closely how it happened with the PS1. Not that it's a rule, but it's interesting not only how that happened as also how we saw the rise of console RPGs, Pokemon, Tetris, Nintendogs, and now Brain Training, it's an important market even if it isn't the biggest.
thefro said:Right, if Wii racks up a huge lead in Japan (which seems likely if Nintendo can provide a good supply of units), it will lead to a lot, lot more 3rd party support.
BorkBork said:For FF III sales, I'll listen to the person who was closest with their NSMB prediction. Who was that?
RPGs tend to sell the most in their first week on the market. If FFIII sold 200k in the first week, it'd probably do 400k-450k, tops.Earthstrike said:Me and some other guy, although I don't post on here enough for people to know who I am.
I predict first week sales of, hmmm 200,000?
And 800,00-900,000 LTD seems reasonable.
AniHawk said:RPGs tend to sell the most in their first week on the market. If FFIII sold 200k in the first week, it'd probably do 400k-450k, tops.
AniHawk said:RPGs tend to sell the most in their first week on the market. If FFIII sold 200k in the first week, it'd probably do 400k-450k, tops.
NintendosBooger said:Honestly? To hell with these third-party developers. All of them. Why does Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft need to rely on relics like Capcom, Namco, Sega, Square every generation?
NintendosBooger said:Let's see a new third-party regime come into the picture, some new blood born as a result of lower development costs and strong marketing assistance from console manufacturers (Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo).
In defense of the Sony side, that's somewhat a contradiction. I agree the future can't easily be predicted--which is why it's too early to say that Wii will take over in Japan. Personally, I think it will, but that's just a hunch; the "evidence" to suggest so is only the DS' success, which is in somewhat a different market than Wii anyway.Lapsed said:I think many of the Sony fans thought the DS "blip" in Japan was just a fad. It was inevitable that the PSP would rise to the top while DS sank. But it is not inevitable. And the future cannot be that easily predicted. It is very probable that the Wii could take over Japan in the same fashion the DS had.
Jiggy37 said:In defense of the Sony side, that's somewhat a contradiction. I agree the future can't easily be predicted--which is why it's too early to say that Wii will take over in Japan. Personally, I think it will, but that's just a hunch; the "evidence" to suggest so is only the DS' success, which is in somewhat a different market than Wii anyway.
Edit: Although, granted, you're using the word "could." Hard to argue with that, I suppose.
If you want them translated then do it yourself.Lindsay said:How come you guys ahve been slacking in #31 - 50 or are they no longer listed? Is .hack//G.U. still anywhere in there?
Fuzzy said:If you want them translated then do it yourself.
http://www.m-create.com/jpn/s_ranking.html
...I think it moved.koam said:48 DS SIMPLE DS series Vol.8 THE judgement official - urgent move! It touches incident actual place! - ADV D3 publisher 060525 ¥2,800
ioi said:Well I too have been playing with JpGraph with some beautifully elegant results.
For example, comparing the performance of the DS and GBA to date in terms of hardware we have:
http://www.vgcharts.org/japconscomps.php?name1=DS&name2=PS2&type=2
And clicking the various options you can also do similar comparisons for weekly figures, as well as weekly and cumulative software figures (although bear in mind these still contain gaps at present).
I have also created versions of our beloved pacman charts for both the weekly and yearly data, 2006 is looking like:
http://www.vgcharts.org/japyearly.php
donny2112 said:1 Valkyrie Profile 2: Silmeria (PS2) - 281,510
2 New Super Mario Bros. (NDS) - 170,168
3 Brain Training 2 (NDS) - 57,752
4 Winning Eleven 10 (PS2) - 49,926
5 Brain Training (NDS) - 38,766
6 King of Fighters XI (PS2) 28,015
7 Animal Crossing: WW (NDS) - 27,780
8 English Training (NDS) - 24,978
9 Sony Compter Science Brain Game from Sega (PSP) - 23,548
10 Digimon Story (NDS) - 21,520
11 Tetris DS (NDS)
12 Galaxy Angel II Zettai Ryouiki no Tobira (PS2)
13 Magical Vacation 5-tsu no Hoshi ga Narabu Toki (NDS)
14 Pachislot Vol. 5 Shinseiki (PS2)
15 Mario Kart DS (NDS)
16 Pokemon Ranger (NDS)
17 Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney BEST (NDS)
18 Metroid Prime: Hunters (NDS)
19 Gentle Brain Training (NDS)
20 Puzzle Series Vol. 3 SUDOKU (NDS)
21 Winning Eleven 9 BEST (PSP)
22 Portable Braing Trainer 2 (PSP)
23 - Unou no Tatsujin - Gun Bullet Trainer (NDS)
24 Doko Demo Issho Let's Gakkou! (PSP)
25 Chinese Dictionary (NDS)
26 Jikkyou Powerful Major League (PS2)
27 Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
28 Sword of Mana (NDS)
29 DQ and FF in Itadaki Street Portable (PSP)
30 Tamagotchi (NDS)
31 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachislot Simulator Yoshimune Portable (PSP)
Someone else get the rest?
Deku said:That's a good service you provide. I've heard you've been accused of being flaky about your numbers. I'm not sure as to the history but I do recall this happened a few weeks ago.
Can you answer to those accusations and will that affect the integrity of your website? It might be a good idea to put up an FAQ on that issue in particular so people here won't use it as a way to disquality numbers from your site it the dicussion ever evolved into that direction. Knowing GAF, discrediting your work would probably be high on people's list if they don't like your numbers.
neo2046 said:posted?
1st day sale data (Famitsu base)
PS2 Super Dragon Ball Z - 46785 (23.2%)
PS2 Atelier Iris Grand Fantasm - 16992
PSP My Summer Vacation - 15173
X360 Chrome Hounds - 6309
super DBZ fails
just as Gundam One Year War last time
MC - 125,631kisakiproject said:BTW, whats the m-create LTD #s for 360?