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Media Create Sales: October 25-31
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test_account
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It is impossible to know for sure if Move also contributed to this week's PS3 bump. But i agree that it is more likely because of the Winning Eleven bundle indeedChris1964 said:
EDIT: I fixed a typo.
Lazy Jones
Member
Mai Waifu.
PistolGrip
sex vacation in Guam
FU Japan for not buying the Move.
FFXV to have move support!
360 killing it with my wife!
FFXV to have move support!
360 killing it with my wife!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
manueldelalas said:
No.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Move seems like it bombed pretty bad in Japan, SCE is partly at fault with that crappy line up. CH hasn't done anything since MNT PSP, it's time they get working on MNG6/MNT2 with Move support. Maybe even a new Minna game, like the Minna mini games they had for PSP but for PS3 with Move, or a Minna No Baseball game, that could do well.
I am now a believer that PSP Go will sell out of its initial shipment, I don't think retailers will order them anymore though.
I am now a believer that PSP Go will sell out of its initial shipment, I don't think retailers will order them anymore though.
sixteen-bit
Member
I like how somebody literally made a game called "My Wife"
It is really too bad for the Move in Japan, they even had the lowest prices compared to Europe and the US. But the line-up should be blamed. The new Ape Escape wasn't even available at launch, even though it seems pretty shitty from the demo...
Glad to see the bump in PSP go sales
Glad to see the bump in PSP go sales
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Don't like praising Namdai, but I have to be honest and say they certainly did well cloning MH with God Eater. Will be interesting if a tracker shares the ratio between expansions only (2100Y) and full game plus expansion (5229Y). Now I wonder if they will be building it up for a proper God Eater 2 or if they will wait for a new platform.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
With Lord of Arcana out of the way as a non-contender, we now see that the God Eater expansion still has an audience even just a month before MHP3. Now the big question is whether there will be an audience for PSP2i post-MHP3. It'll be interesting to see how much difference it makes releasing a MH clone-like title before and after an actual MHP release.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Has anyone beat My Wife yet?
Seems like My Wife was sent to die.
*Insert other REALLY BAD pun*
farnham said:
So did Inazuma Eleven 3. But think about what those games all have in common? They are all sequels to established million sellers with heavy social elements (there is robust multiplayer, official tournaments) which are very popular with the younger audiences.
Sure, there are excuses we can make for every title:
- KH Re:Coded is a sign that KH is being milked a bit too heavily, and many fans in Japan already played Coded on their phones
- Golden Sun was a strong IP in GBA days but Nintendo waited too low and didn't have good marketing
- Solatorobo was doomed from the start, no one cared about Tail Concerto then, and no one cares about Solatorobo now
Even in the future, there are excuses we can make:
- Radiant Historia looked like shit, not surprising no one bought it
- Ninokuni is a new IP coming out in the busy December period, and it is expensive and comes with a heavy book you have to carry around to play
And so on.
Could it be solely a result of titles not attracting the audience? Absolutely. But if it becomes a trend leading up to the 3DS release, could it also indicate that the core RPG audience who generally prefer to have better visuals if possible are finally moving on from the DS hardware? I definitely think so.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
PSP2i being just a day before 3DS too, not the best date if you want total exposure. Namdai handled release date better me thinks.duckroll said:
EDIT: Thinking about it, its really crowded January & February already...do you have a list of kinda-big ones Chris?
distantmantra
Member
Spiegel said:
What else was on the list?
Last update I did to upcoming games was yesterday. There are more games, these are with releases date.
06/01/11
[NDS] SaGa 3: Jikuu no Hasha - Shadow or Light (Square Enix)
13/01/11
[PS3] Arcana Heart 3 (Arc System Works)
[PSP] Another Century's Episode Portable (Bandai Namco)
[PSP] Nicoli no Sudoku +3 Dai-Ni-Shuu: Sudoku Kakuro Bijutsukan Hitori ni Shitekure (Hamster)
[360] Mass Effect 2 (Microsoft Game Studios)
[360] Arcana Heart 3 (Arc System Works)
20/01/11
[NDS] Monster Busters: Powered (Bandai Namco)
[PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep - Final Mix (Square Enix)
[PSP] Venus & Braves: Majo no Megami to Horobi no Yogen (Bandai Namco)
[PS3] Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
[360] Gal Gun (Alchemist)
[360] Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
27/01/11
[NDS] Sora no Otoshimono Forte: Dreamy Season (Kadokawa Shoten)
[PSP] Valkyria Chronicles 3 (Sega)
[PSP] Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii wake ga Nai Portable (Bandai Namco)
[PSP] Dear Drops Distortion (CyberFront)
[PSP] Toaru Majutsu no Index (ASCII Media Works)
[PSP] Toaru Majutsu no Kinsho Mokuroku (ASCII Media Works)
[PSP] Tsuku Monogatari (FuRyu)
[WII] The Last Story (Nintendo)
[WII] Samurai Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends (Koei Tecmo)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 3 Z (Koei Tecmo)
[PS3] The Shoot (SCE)
[PS3] Dragon Age: Origins (Spike)
[360] Dragon Age: Origins (Spike)
03/02/11
[NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom)
[PSP] Atelier Violet: The Alchemist of Guramnat 2 - Deep Blue Memories (Gust)
10/02/11
[PSP] Half-Minute Hero Second (Marvelous Entertainment)
[PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Sweet Serenade (Broccoli)
17/02/11
[PS3] Catherine (Atlus Co.)
[360] Catherine (Atlus Co.)
24/02/11 (26/02/11 - 3DS)
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats (Nintendo)
[3DS] Pilotwings Resort (Nintendo)
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)
[3DS] Steel Diver (Nintendo)
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition (Capcom)
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5)
[3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles (Koei Tecmo)
[3DS] Pro Baseball Spirits 3D (Konami)
[3DS] Ridge Racer 3D (Bandai Namco)
[3DS] Super Monkey Ball 3D (Sega)
[PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (Sega)
[PSP] Suzumiya Haruhi-Chan no Mahjong (Kadokawa Shoten)
[PSP] Black Robina (Broccoli)
[WII] Rune Factory: Oceans (Marvelous Entertainment)
[PS3] Disgaea 4 (Nippon Ichi Software)
[PS3] Rune Factory: Oceans (Marvelous Entertainment)
[PS3] Love Once: Mermaid's Tears (Maid Meets Cat)
06/01/11
[NDS] SaGa 3: Jikuu no Hasha - Shadow or Light (Square Enix)
13/01/11
[PS3] Arcana Heart 3 (Arc System Works)
[PSP] Another Century's Episode Portable (Bandai Namco)
[PSP] Nicoli no Sudoku +3 Dai-Ni-Shuu: Sudoku Kakuro Bijutsukan Hitori ni Shitekure (Hamster)
[360] Mass Effect 2 (Microsoft Game Studios)
[360] Arcana Heart 3 (Arc System Works)
20/01/11
[NDS] Monster Busters: Powered (Bandai Namco)
[PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep - Final Mix (Square Enix)
[PSP] Venus & Braves: Majo no Megami to Horobi no Yogen (Bandai Namco)
[PS3] Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
[360] Gal Gun (Alchemist)
[360] Majin and the Forsaken Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
27/01/11
[NDS] Sora no Otoshimono Forte: Dreamy Season (Kadokawa Shoten)
[PSP] Valkyria Chronicles 3 (Sega)
[PSP] Ore no Imouto ga Konna ni Kawaii wake ga Nai Portable (Bandai Namco)
[PSP] Dear Drops Distortion (CyberFront)
[PSP] Toaru Majutsu no Index (ASCII Media Works)
[PSP] Toaru Majutsu no Kinsho Mokuroku (ASCII Media Works)
[PSP] Tsuku Monogatari (FuRyu)
[WII] The Last Story (Nintendo)
[WII] Samurai Warriors 3: Xtreme Legends (Koei Tecmo)
[PS3] Samurai Warriors 3 Z (Koei Tecmo)
[PS3] The Shoot (SCE)
[PS3] Dragon Age: Origins (Spike)
[360] Dragon Age: Origins (Spike)
03/02/11
[NDS] Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 2 (Capcom)
[PSP] Atelier Violet: The Alchemist of Guramnat 2 - Deep Blue Memories (Gust)
10/02/11
[PSP] Half-Minute Hero Second (Marvelous Entertainment)
[PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Sweet Serenade (Broccoli)
17/02/11
[PS3] Catherine (Atlus Co.)
[360] Catherine (Atlus Co.)
24/02/11 (26/02/11 - 3DS)
[3DS] Nintendogs + Cats (Nintendo)
[3DS] Pilotwings Resort (Nintendo)
[3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)
[3DS] Steel Diver (Nintendo)
[3DS] Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition (Capcom)
[3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5)
[3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles (Koei Tecmo)
[3DS] Pro Baseball Spirits 3D (Konami)
[3DS] Ridge Racer 3D (Bandai Namco)
[3DS] Super Monkey Ball 3D (Sega)
[PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (Sega)
[PSP] Suzumiya Haruhi-Chan no Mahjong (Kadokawa Shoten)
[PSP] Black Robina (Broccoli)
[WII] Rune Factory: Oceans (Marvelous Entertainment)
[PS3] Disgaea 4 (Nippon Ichi Software)
[PS3] Rune Factory: Oceans (Marvelous Entertainment)
[PS3] Love Once: Mermaid's Tears (Maid Meets Cat)
AranhaHunter
Banned
Spiegel said:
I would be curious to see that list with the date that it was posted if you have it.
StealthGoblin
Banned
AranhaHunter said:
Seconded.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I think Ninokuni is going to do better on PS3 .
The DS just has so many great games , Ninokuni is new IP , expensive , coming in the December .
I did not even know you need to carry around a book to play it , i only care about the ps3 version.
Having to carry around a book to play a portable game make no sense to me.
The DS just has so many great games , Ninokuni is new IP , expensive , coming in the December .
I did not even know you need to carry around a book to play it , i only care about the ps3 version.
Having to carry around a book to play a portable game make no sense to me.
Laguna said:
WKC2 actually didn't do much worse than WKC at all. That was surprising, since WKC had really poor critical reception. Last Ranker also outsold Golden Sun, which honestly is very surprising since Image Epoch has never had a game which sold more than 150k, while Golden Sun is a series which used to sell 250-300k+.
I don't think the core RPG audience has to actually "move" anywhere to have moved on from the DS btw. If they lose interest in certain types of release they can just stop buying titles entirely until there is something which they are interested in. The same can be said when certain franchises decline significantly. Resident Evil used to sell millions in Japan, now it has to be content with 500k for a major new title. Where did the audience go? RE is still the best selling zombie action in Japan, but much of their original audience has moved on. They clearly didn't move on to other franchises, because nothing is selling millions anymore either.
My point is that even DS RPG software which used to be the safest this generation (in the genre), is starting to struggle. Another interesting test would be to see if there is a major decline in sales for SRW L, that's later this month too.
It's not so impossible to know. Move didn't move PS3 units last week and the yearly Winning Eleven bundle always gives a bump.test_account said:It is impossible to know for sure if Move also contributed to this week's PS3 bump. But i agree that it is more likely because of the Winning Eleven bundle indeed
2007
39.178
50.564 -> WE2008
2008
17.436
34.978 -> WE2009
2009
36.061
48.925 -> WE2010
2010
20.128
28.255 -> WE2011
sundrenched
Neo Member
Poor poor Solatorobo, guess cyberconnect is gonna continue making naruto games forever... Didn't Namco Bandai want to break the world record for most advertisments or something? Pretty sad if that still didn't sell
not too worried about GS3 as marketing and hype seems strong in the west
not too worried about GS3 as marketing and hype seems strong in the west
duckroll said:
Last Ranker did pretty much the same first week as Golden Sun 3 a difference of a few thousand units won´t change it´s lackluster sales. It´s also a bit strange that you wanted to make fun of people making "excuses" for certain games and the next post you excuse WKC2s sales. You obviously are just looking at the bad examples and totally neglecting this years successes, be it DQ6 or DQJM2 both as you know millionsellers or Inazuma3 and the recent Pokemon that is still selling a considerable amount. This year no comparable game on other platforms come even close to these titles. But yeah we know, the doom and gloom talk must go on I know. Based on what?, yeah on some niche games with little to no marketing and spinoffs. For me Coded is to KH what Lord of Arcana is to MH.
When you say they "moved on from the DS" what exactly do you base your assumption on? And where did they moved on to?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Laguna said:
Not to actually take part in the argument, but his post literally says "I don't think the core RPG audience has to actually "move" anywhere to have moved on from the DS btw"... in fact, the bulk of what you quoted was him discussing how they could have moved on from DS RPGs without moving anywhere...
AranhaHunter said:
distantmantra said:
Galvanise_ said:
I don't remeber the exact list and I don't think I can find the post but there was nothing big or shocking.
The games I remeber were Disaster Report 4, Gundam Musou 3 and God Eater PS3 but there were other two or so unannounced games at that time that were later confirmed.
distantmantra
Member
Ah. I was wondering if the long-rumored PS3 SRW title was on it.
Stumpokapow said:
"core" RPG users actually implies gamers that actively play RPG games. And when you say they already moved on from the DS the question -where?- is more than legitimate. And what happened with the 4 million people who bought Pkm the past month? But we know some people don´t see the forest due to all the trees.
Niche games with no big fanbase and little marketing like Radiant Historia will sell appropriate numbers.
To me it´s just a strange assumption to make in a week in which 3 DS RPGs are in the Top10 and in a period/month in which more than 4mio. DS RPGs were sold, and in a year in which we saw 3-4 DS RPGs selling more than a million. Next year is a whole different story but that has more to do with developers support and 3DS than anything else.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
Nice, thanks. Both ending-month weeks are madness, btw 4 other notable releases: 1/20 KH BBS Final Mix and Venus & Braves, 1/27 Kenka Banchou 5 and Amagami.Chris1964 said:
And we'll see about those without exact date like Donkey Kong...could be a bloodbath.
mclem said:
That's the Datel Retcon (Retro Controller - funny name, I know...)
http://www.datel-japan.co.jp/lineup/japanese/wii/retcon/
Femmeworth
Banned
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUU- Damn it Nintendo, you should have waited and made it a 3DS project.Pureauthor said: