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AniHawk said:plus one or two weeks.

AniHawk said:plus one or two weeks.
Busaiku said:There would be no point.
Unlike the US, Japan moves on to the new hardware very quickly.
Lowering the price again now would just mean lower revenue overall.
antonz said:At this point I think the answer is no. Nintendo has to be in Console Successor mode at this point.
Tease at GDC with more info at E3. Fall 2012 Launch
Short term drought.There are LOTS of games coming (Samurai Warriors 3Z,Catherine,Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity,Disgaea 4,Yakuza,Dinasty Warriors 7,Dissidia 012...)AniHawk said:Yeah, this gen is very quickly winding down. Software sales are pretty low.
jeremy1456 said:The jailbreak makes the most sense to me. I mean... didn't this same thing happen with the PSP early in its life? Nothing in the top 20, but still selling like 20k?
Yeah I am mostly guessing a tease at GDC due to the theme of Iwatas keynote addressing the history of the industry and whats to come. He could devote fully to 3DS but something just nugs at me thinking maybe a teasejustchris said:With only 1.5 million units until the end of March, I don't think people are going to switch over to the new hardware that fast. Plus, there have got to be a few extra thrifty people who have not yet jumped on the DS bandwagon because of price. Retailers will probably discount units anyway, I was just wondering if Nintendo would lower the price to keep both pieces of hardware going concurrently. After all, the PS2 sold decently for a few years after the PS3 was released.
I agree with you about the release time frame, although I think they'll announce it later, with maybe a tease at TGS and big blowout at E3 '12.
antonz said:Yeah I am mostly guessing a tease at GDC due to the theme of Iwatas keynote addressing the history of the industry and whats to come. He coulkd evote fully to 3DS but something just nugs at me thinking maybe a tease
PSP sales have always been good.jeremy1456 said:The jailbreak makes the most sense to me. I mean... didn't this same thing happen with the PSP early in its life? Nothing in the top 20, but still selling like 20k systems a week?
We haven't seen the PS3 perform at this ratio to software sales UNTIL now. Makes sense.
jeremy1456 said:We haven't seen the PS3 perform at this ratio to software sales UNTIL now. Makes sense.
SlipperySlope said:I wonder if it's jailbreak related.
Baki said:How will the PSP2 announcement affect PSP sales? Find out in t-4 hours.
Smiles and Cries said:PSP has been ruling the top spot like every week thanks to Capcom now SE
With an extra 1.6 million consoles sold since the start of last year which is a 26% increase in install base the ps3 has managed 2 less titles charting in the top 20 for the first 3 weeks of the year, yeah sure nothing to see here............BishopLamont said:PSP sales have always been good.
Also did you miss this?
2010 Week 1 - 62k (Titles in top20: 2 in positions 6 and 16)
2010 Week 2 - 35k (Titles in top20: 3 in positions 12, 17 and 20)
2010 Week 3 - 27k (Titles in top20: 1 in position 19)
2011 Week 1 - 60k (Titles in top20: 1 in position 7)
2011 Week 2 - 33k (Titles in top20: 3 in positions 6, 9 and 20)
2011 Week 3 - 24k (Titles in top20: 0)
Gee, what a stark difference.
duckroll said:03. / 00. [NDS] Kingdom Hearts Re:coded (Square Enix) {2010.10.07} - 95.505 / NEW
01. / 00. [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep - Final Mix (Square Enix) {2011.01.20} - 77.317 / NEW
This is interesting, because if you combine the sales of both BbS Final Mix and Re:Coded, even though they're on different platforms, you get about the opening sales of....
01./00. [PS2] Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ (Square-Enix) - 173,212 / NEW
Which included both KH2 Final Mix, as well as the Re:CoM remake. Obviously we can't just add the sales and draw a direct conclusion, but I do think there is very specific evidence here apart from also obvious decline in the KH series in general, that the very hardcore KH fans might be split between those who would buy a remake, those who would buy a Final Mix, and those who who would buy both (much smaller number).
It's also interesting to note that while it seems that KH2 FM+'s 173k is "consistent" with the KHFM sales of 163k (Famitsu launch week, no MC number), the sales of the Ultimate Hits version of KH compared with KH2 have shown that KH2 doesn't have anywhere close to the legs that KH had for the budget releases. This definitely implies that if KH2 FM+ did not include a brand new remake of CoM in the package, it will probably not have sold as much.
KuwabaraTheMan said:I think that's a good point. FM+ definitely had a much bigger package overall compared to Birth by Sleep FM, and that's one reason that can explain the much lower number. I think it's also worth noting that the gap between the releases was shorter this time. This is coming out a year after Birth by Sleep, compared to the 15 months between the releases of II (and Chain of Memories was a much older game). I doubt that's a massive factor, but I don't think it's a stretch to consider that a number of people might have felt that it was just too soon after the release of the original game to buy it again.
Well, the initial release of Kingdom Hearts had reached far fewer people than the initial release of Kingdom Hearts II, so Kingdom Hearts Final Mix probably did a better job of reaching a new audience, which then led to Kingdom Hearts II selling over 1 million.duckroll said:Well, this Final Mix is out faster than KH2FM+, but KH FM came out like 9 months after KH, and still ended up selling as much in the first week, and in the LTD as KH2FM+. That is basically where I reinforce my conclusion that KH1 had a much bigger legs impact, and it's something that the series never continued having, contributing to the eventual decline.
What games did you expect to chart? lol @ 2 less titles charting, right coz thats such a big drop from what it was.doicare said:With an extra 1.6 million consoles sold since the start of last year which is a 26% increase in install base the ps3 has managed 2 less titles charting in the top 20 for the first 3 weeks of the year, yeah sure nothing to see here............
BishopLamont said:What games did you expect to chart? lol @ 2 less titles charting, right coz thats such a big drop from what it was.
doicare said:With an extra 1.6 million consoles sold since the start of last year which is a 26% increase in install base the ps3 has managed 2 less titles charting in the top 20 for the first 3 weeks of the year, yeah sure nothing to see here............
antonz said:Yeah I am mostly guessing a tease at GDC due to the theme of Iwatas keynote addressing the history of the industry and whats to come. He could devote fully to 3DS but something just nugs at me thinking maybe a tease
BishopLamont said:PSP sales have always been good.
Also did you miss this?
2010 Week 1 - 62k (Titles in top20: 2 in positions 6 and 16)
2010 Week 2 - 35k (Titles in top20: 3 in positions 12, 17 and 20)
2010 Week 3 - 27k (Titles in top20: 1 in position 19)
2011 Week 1 - 60k (Titles in top20: 1 in position 7)
2011 Week 2 - 33k (Titles in top20: 3 in positions 6, 9 and 20)
2011 Week 3 - 24k (Titles in top20: 0)
Gee, what a stark difference.
No you're right, with 1.6 million more consoles on the market which is a 26% install base increase we should expect less and less titles to chart each year.BishopLamont said:What games did you expect to chart? lol @ 2 less titles charting, right coz thats such a big drop from what it was.
doicare said:No you're right, with 1.6 million more consoles on the market which is a 26% install base increase we should expect less and less titles to chart each year.
Saiyar said:
justchris said:That is kind of interesting. The Wii has less than 2/3's as many hardware units sold as the DS, but almost 7/8's as many software units.
KuwabaraTheMan said:But, what titles are you expecting to chart? It didn't have a single high profile release this week (Majin hardly counts, obviously), and none of the titles it had out last week could have been expected to be strong holdovers.
The PS3's lack of any titles in the Top 20 is simply a result of it not having any notable software out this week. It's not like noteworthy games are bombing.
By the same token last year for the first 3 weeks of January the ps3 had next to no new releases either, the only new game that managed to make the top 20 was Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising which only just managed to make the cut for one week coming in at 20th.KuwabaraTheMan said:But, what titles are you expecting to chart? It didn't have a single high profile release this week (Majin hardly counts, obviously), and none of the titles it had out last week could have been expected to be strong holdovers.
The PS3's lack of any titles in the Top 20 is simply a result of it not having any notable software out this week. It's not like noteworthy games are bombing.
How many copies they shipped?FINALFANTASYDOG said:First based on retailer blogs, first shipment of Last story is completely sold out at Nintendo, so no extra last minute orders were able to be done today(2nd shipment is tomorrow though!)
ratchet / tekken 6 / dragon ball / winning eleven didn't come out during the last 6 weeks of the year so that's why they weren't compared so that's a moot point. And whilst you are describing the types of sales for games then using your standards you would have to describe:FINALFANTASYDOG said:Gran Turismo 5
Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 3 - front loaded series
Tales of Graces F - front loaded series
Castlevania: Lord of Shadow - Sold poorly
Call of Duty: Black Ops - Sold remarkably well
Assassins Creed: Brotherhood - western niche
Trinity: Souls of Zill Oll - niche
ps3 games generally have no legs, not sure why it matters what was released in the last 6 weeks and what wasn't.
You include those games then when comparing to last year you need to include last years
ratchet / tekken 6 / dragon ball / winning eleven. etc
BowieZ said:It's gonna take another full year with Holiday 2011 sales to nudge DKCR over the mill mark, right?
Sammy Samusu said:How many copies they shipped?
Yoshiya said:Ouch at Majin. That game was never going to sell, but for a domestic HD title to debut at 32? That's... ouch.
50. / 45. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005.12.08}
I take it you mean 20, but to fall a further 12 places below 6k is pretty astounding even for an undisputed total failure. I haven't checked the relevant NPD thread but somehow I doubt western sales were the title's saviour haha. As one of the few HD titles coming out of Namco and an original IP out of Gamerepublic that must really shatter confidence in that line of development.Stumpokapow said:Not only did it debut at 32, but it debuted at 32 in a week where #10 was 6k.
Stumpokapow said:Not only did it debut at 32, but it debuted at 32 in a week where #10 was 6k.
Yoshiya said:Ouch at Majin. That game was never going to sell, but for a domestic HD title to debut at 32? That's... ouch.
FINALFANTASYDOG said:Required to note: PSP is still extremly supply constrained, practically every retailer blog reports major shortages for this week, My local area stores are listing the buy price for used ones as 14,000 yen
Game Republic's next-gen game Majin, which Namco set initial goals of 1 million worldwide, didn't chart.
And that's the 4th contender for the predictions.Chris1964 said:White Knight Chronicles Episode Portable: Dogma Wars is also released next week. I thought it was delayed but I just saw it at amazon.
Kurosaki Ichigo said:And that's the 4th contender for the predictions.