Watchtower
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allan-bh said:
So basically it's guaranteed to happen ;p
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Media Create Sales: Week 10, 2011 (Mar 7 - Mar 13)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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So basically it's guaranteed to happen ;p
gloriousdemon
Banned
Kinda surprising how little of an impact the earthquake had on game sales, of course this is still only a partial snapshot. Still, something similar happened after 9/11. Everyone was predicting that everything would be down yet the game industry had a record setting holiday.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
antonz said:
I already mentioned it before, but just again Nintendo games sales tend more towards the weekend compared to sony sales, you certainly see it in terms of Nintendo sales this week(really 3ds is now more then 200,000 of lower then what they expected it to be at this time)
Bel Marduk
Banned
Bizzyb said:
In Japan. Everywhere else it's doing fine.
Bizzyb said:
So what makes you think they won't have anything? You said yourself that Zelda is probably going to be a holiday game...and you expect them to do nothing at all the rest of the year? No.
Bizzyb said:
Unfortunately big gaps between games is nothing new for the Wii...but then once they do release games, nowadays around the holidays, sales end up picking up a lot then. I don't see why this year would be any different. Even in Japan last year the Wii ended up outselling the PS3.
Takao said:
What reason would they have to sell badly? The last Wii DQ, DQM Battle Road Victory, sold 300k and that's an upgraded version of an arcade game. Seriously, the Wii doesn't have a problem when it comes to big name games, DQ will be no exception.
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Takao said:
Uh...this is SE with a mainline DQ, not Namco...
the thoroughbred
Member
Are DQ games that difficult to make? They seem like a graphically basic RPG. I understand if it is an epic game, but it can't be that difficult to make. It's not like it has the attention to detail of a Zelda game. Why has it been in development for so long?
gkryhewy said:
Eh, if it's on a handheld I imagine it would sell well enough as both the 3DS and NGP should eclipse the Wii in userbase (though not in the year after Wii release as I said earlier).
As for the breaking the franchise's habits, it is the 10th game. Time for a change
Also, Square Enix has gotten into that habit, as Dragon Quest Monsters 2 got an expanded version alongside KH, and FF games.Takao said:Eh, if it's on a handheld I imagine it would sell well enough as both the 3DS and NGP should eclipse the Wii in userbase (though not in the year after Wii release as I said earlier).
As for the breaking the franchise's habits, it is the 10th game. Time for a change
So are you predicting a year-later handheld port (nonsense) or a 5 years-later handheld port (okay)?
Bel Marduk
Banned
Takao said:
I don't remember this at all...during the first week it sold 135k (40% sell through according to Dengeki) but it went on to sell 307k.
the thoroughbred said:
Graphically basic? DQ8 is one of the best looking games on the PS2 without a doubt, with a huge detailed world, and DQ IX looks nice for a DS game too.
gkryhewy said:
I expect it will be sooner than 5 years, but more than a year. Happy?
antonz said:
Well, the question remains how active the Wii's userbase will be when Dragon Quest X is released. The showing for The Last Story, and Xenoblade actually aren't that bad, but those are much more niche products that never had a shot at being a huge franchise no matter the platform. I fear releasing the game too close to the end of the Wii's life cycle would hurt it exponentially (and yes, I know about Dragon Quest VII, but I don't think the PlayStation was selling less than 15,000 units a week at this point in its life) as people will have moved on to something else.
It's a terrible comparison because there's a lot of factors in play not relevant to the Wii's situation, but lets look at Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker vs. Portable Ops in the west. One is considered a main line entry with the backing of the major staff that made the series, and the other is a spinoff made by a smaller, less notable team. MGS is still a large franchise, but Peace Walker sold worse than Portable Ops in its first month despite larger marketing, and a larger userbase. People had moved on from the platform it was on.
Bel Marduk said:
Hmm, seems my memory has an agenda then.
Bel Marduk
Banned
Jonnyram said:
That's reaching.
Watchtower said:
the thoroughbred said:
I'd rate the attention to detail in the story as much, much higher than Zelda games. There's a lot more "content" in typical DQ games than in typical Zelda games, in my experience, too.
cw_sasuke said:
Fixed. Yeah, Wii's overall content sales have been in the crapper for years now in Japan, but it can still sell huge amounts of some games. It's the only console that does. When Wii was at PS3's current LTD, it had 6 million sellers with 3 of those over 2m. Selling huge amounts for some games has never been Wii's problem, even in Japan. It's the overall ecosystem that's been in trouble since around SMG's launch.
Bizzyb said:
Considering Nintendo's involvement with DQIX and their expected involvement with DQX, I think they'd probably need to give a go-ahead to move it off of Wii. Not officially, of course, with Horii's autonomy, but it'd be sort of the "right" thing to do. If Nintendo feels that Wii is so bad that coming out on Wii wouldn't be best for the franchise, I don't think they'd try to stand in the way of that decision by Horii, though. I think they'd be fine with it going to 3DS instead.
Bel Marduk
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Bizzyb said:
What? How? How does this statement seem apprehensive in the slightest on whether DQ X will be on the Wii or not?
If there are multiple DQ games for the Wii in the works, his statement is fine. And since DQ X has been confirmed for the Wii since 2008 and last Summer Yuji Horii reconfirmed it was a Wii game, and that it wasn't that far off, it should be a no brainer to know he's talking about DQ X as well.
Also, if DQ X wasn't coming to the Wii, why bother with more Wii DQ games anyway? Why not start working on more 3DS DQ games (it's already getting Rocket Slime 3) instead of Wii games when the Wii's slowed down in Japan?
pharmboy044
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Really? Any inside info? Do you assume that it might be ported to the 3DS?shidoshi said:
edit: alittle OT but where is my PODCAST?
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
So we have an announced game for the Wii, that was reconfirmed by name half a year ago, and a month ago when asked for the future of the series they casually mentioned they're working on Wii games, and it's not reaching to claim it's unlikely to be released for Wii? Speculation for platforms they've not even mentioned is not reaching, while thinking it's for the Wii is? Really? I mean, obviously, anything is plausible, but hinted at? No.Bizzyb said:
Anyway, nobody said the Wii is going to go back to selling what it used to in Japan since you seem to be moving the goalposts to that direction and anything less is apparently unacceptable for a system at this stage of its life and with this accumulated install base. Although it has been said it's doing fine in every other region after you claimed it's not. It doesn't have to be launch year all over again for it to continue being the only Nintendo home platform for a while longer.
If they have small home titles, they aren't going to do better on any other platform than Wii, and they aren't going to sell a new platform. If they have somewhat bigger titles, they can do absolutely fine on Wii as proven most recently by DKCR. The last big Wii title did absolutely fantastic so why wouldn't DQX?
We don't know what their unannounced games are so it's no use to shit on them or praise them as potential system sellers. You're doing the former, I'm not doing the latter. I merely mentioned several titles are coming when you pretended Wii has nothing until 2013 as proof that a new system is coming soon or whatever else. All the support Nintendo is able to spare beyond the 3DS seems to be going to Wii at this point (a main Mario title is being made for 3DS apparently, so I suppose there's no room for a third one on Wii, or a new one on a new home platform). Several titles from a single company isn't exactly few, whether they end up being big sellers or smaller projects. For regions outside Japan they can have even more titles if they want to by including these upcoming games alongside titles already released in Japan.
Anyway, Nintendo isn't going to change their plans for any such reason. The Wii could be doing great and they'd still announce a new platform. The opposite can be true also. They don't need momentum, they need a good strategy just like they had with the Wii's launch which had no momentum whatsoever before it.
Nintendo put up a lot of money to promote DQ IX and got it to be the best selling DQ game. I don't understand why people don't think DQ X will stay on the Wii.
I think Nintendo foolishly feels confident that they can raise Wii numbers and are not too worried. What quake may have delayed any plans to do so though. It does not seem like they careat all , because if they did they have the resources to throw out money for support , bundles, colors, and just about anything to keep the system moving.
I think Nintendo foolishly feels confident that they can raise Wii numbers and are not too worried. What quake may have delayed any plans to do so though. It does not seem like they careat all , because if they did they have the resources to throw out money for support , bundles, colors, and just about anything to keep the system moving.
Bel Marduk
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onipex said:
It's dumb to say they don't care...they just have a problem with keeping steady momentum throughout the year. The first half of this year is barren but the second half should be good still...still doesn't really excuse them though. Although this first half of the year I guess it's understandable they want to focus on the 3DS and Pokemon first...
duckroll said:
Are these delays because of the subject matter or production/distribution problems? I'm not worried or anything, just interested.
Obviously it's to do with the Earth Quake/Tsunami, but is it like out of respect like Motorstorm is or they're having problems?
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
duckroll said:
Along with some offices(like EA taking the week of) thus causing delays for everything, basically work productivity is way down this week .
Also just to note: this week was the Torne Bundle Price drop pack
jeremy1456
Junior Member
shidoshi said:
That is a bet I'm positive you would lose.
Dash Kappei
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2D really does miracles for Nintendo platformers.Chris1964 said:
BlizzyB said:
This shit is annoying as hell.
Takao said:
Ahaahah.. Wait, seriously?
Bwahahahahahahah, oh god
Shidoshi said:
Ok, I'm in. Let's work this through. I say it's going to be Wii-only at its release, you say it's not going there or that if it is then is going to be released on another console as well (I don't even need to know which console). How much are we betting?
onken said:
I know you live in Japan, but have you just missed all the games getting delayed because of logistic problems? That's hardly a "normal" situation as you put it.
BishopLamont
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Yeah lets confirm multiple titles for the Wii and quietly cancel the biggest one on the system. Makes perfect sense!Jonnyram said:
the only other console/handheld that has a big enough userbase is DSshidoshi said:
and a Wii -> DS transition would mean just scrapping the game and making a new one
also DQ never has been multiplatform so i doubt it.
people forget that DQ 7 was released in 2000 after the PS2 launch
BishopLamont
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People said the same thing about FF. Not the exact same situation, and as slim as the chance is, I wouldn't be suprised if it ends up Wii/PS3.farnham said: