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Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2015 (Apr 13 - Apr 19)

FluxWaveZ

Member
Persona comgnet comparison

Persona 4 golden: 66 pts
Persona Q: 36 pts
Persona 4 arena: 30 pts
Persona 4 dancing: 19 pts

I dunno how these points totally work, but are these also comparisons from when the respective games were two months away from release?

This doesn't take into account that P4D's 19 pts only comes from the "Crazy Value Pack" limited edition release, and not even the standard one.

The points are the actual number of pre-orders at Comgnet's... I think it's 12 stores?

Alright, so they're directly representative of pre-order numbers (from that number of retailers).
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
I dunno how these points totally work, but are these also comparisons from when the respective games were two months away from release?

This doesn't take into account that P4D's 19 pts only comes from the "Crazy Value Pack" limited edition release, and not even the standard one.

The points are the actual number of pre-orders at Comgnet's... I think it's 12 stores?
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Well it's also worth noting that P4D has a bunch of different retailer exclusive pre-order goodies: http://p-atlus.jp/p4d/shopguide/

The Comgnet one is a Quo card with the P4D cover art, so it might not be the most attractive retailer to preorder at.

You gotta admit though those lawson colored theme outfits are pretty hilarious.

Its too bad 7-11 didnt have any pre-order costume. I want a 7-11 outfit not a post card. D: With how much money 7-11 has too you would think that they would do something a bit more interesting as the pre-order incentive. Like the awesome 7-11 gunplas.

711.jpg
 

small44

Member
I dunno how these points totally work, but are these also comparisons from when the respective games were two months away from release?

This doesn't take into account that P4D's 19 pts only comes from the "Crazy Value Pack" limited edition release, and not even the standard one.



Alright, so they're directly representative of pre-order numbers (from that number of retailers).

It's like you said.
It doesn’t look like any other edition will enter soon,the game in the last position is in the chart has 11 points so even with all editions other spin off are astill ahead of Persona dancing.
But it's too early to know if my prediction is right or not
 

Takao

Banned
Based on Comgnet you'd think IA/VT -Colorful- will trounce P4D. Does anyone think that will actually happen come release date? I get the sense that P4D is being underrepresented at Comg.
 

L~A

Member
Based on Comgnet you'd think IA/VT -Colorful- will trounce P4D. Does anyone think that will actually happen come release date? I get the sense that P4D is being underrepresented at Comg.

I doubt it. P4D is riding on the Persona brand, which is quite popular. Then again, vocaloid stuff is pretty popular, and there's definitely a sizeable market for that on Vita, so I dunno...

Still expecting P4D to be the best-seller by a "wide" margin.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
which era was that since it never happened?

FFVII
FFX

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/squaresoft-discusses-ffx-sales-forecasts/1100-2782828/
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ir/e/explanatory/download/0404-200308040000-01.pdf

I remember reading Squaresoft's previous IR reports that they hoped to achieve 10 million units with FFX, as stated with the link above, and SE's report that the FFX saga had reach 10 million units later on (though it seems they bundled X & X-2 upon further verification).
 

casiopao

Member
YSO predictions

Week 18, 2015 (Apr 27 - May 3)

[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition < 180k
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X < 90k
[WIU] Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online < 90k
[WII] Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online < 90k
[WIU] Hardware - 15-20k

Wow. Thats very low for Puzzle & Dragons i see there.T_T If only Gung-Ho release this game earlier last year rather than this point of time when Puzzle Dragoon is moar powerful.

Nowadays, there are so many other powerful competitor like Shironeko and Monster Strike.

Not to forget the rising Chain Chronicle.^_^
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE MAY 2015

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Apr 27 to May 31):
[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons Super Mario Bros. (33 days) - 425k
[WIU] Xenoblade X (33 days) - 129k
[WII+WIU] Dragon Quest X Version 3 (32 days) - 170k
[PS4] Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD (18 days) - 75k
[PS4+XBO] The Witcher 3 (11 days) - 40k
[3DS] Hatsune Miku Project Mirai Deluxe (4 days) - 90k
[WIU] Splatoon (4 days) - 63k
 

Alrus

Member
Both IA/VT and P4D are releasing on the same day, sales cannibalization is bound to happen considering they're in the same genre.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
YSO predictions

Week 18, 2015 (Apr 27 - May 3)

[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition < 180k
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X < 90k
[WIU] Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online < 90k
[WII] Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online < 90k
[WIU] Hardware - 15-20k

Hm, if the #s are actually end up close to these, those would seem like decent #s for DQX/Xeno X? P&D would be down a lot though from its 500K+ debut w/ P&DZ.

Also:
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/251849-...six-princesses-announced-for-the-nintendo-3ds

Princess Precure Sugar Kingdom and the Six Princesses
Releases July 30, 2015 for 4740 yen
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Sega is taking a more direct stab at the hunting action genre:

Gematsu said:
Monster Gear (Smartphone)

Sega announced Monster Gear, a free-to-play smartphone &#8220;hunting action&#8221; game (with micro-transactions) coming to smartphones in Japan next month.

The game lets up to four players come together to fight. A single mission takes about five minutes. Its simple controls allow for single-hand play, with &#8220;Attack,&#8221; &#8220;Guard,&#8221; and &#8220;Special Pair Attack&#8221; making up its three basic operations.

Hunter weapons available to players include the large sword, lance, pair sword, hammer, and bow.

Read more at http://gematsu.com/2015/04/amatsumi...-monster-gear-smartphones#r4vYRj2GDbvs5Bx4.99

The other announcements were two Vita adventure games (I'm assuming VNs?) and a Pretty Cure match-3 game for 3DS.
 
ayy Mpl90 good job, you predicted Nirolak's next post before he made it!

Hm, if the #s are actually end up close to these, those would seem like decent #s for DQX/Xeno X? P&D would be down a lot though from its 500K+ debut w/ P&DZ.

Also:
http://www.gonintendo.com/s/251849-...six-princesses-announced-for-the-nintendo-3ds

Princess Precure Sugar Kingdom and the Six Princesses
Releases July 30, 2015 for 4740 yen

I dunno, what would people expect for DQX? XCX seems right around the original

also digging up Xenoblade sales (Media Create):
first week (4 days)-82,952
second week- 20,810/103,762

2010 - 161,161
2011 - 16,498 / 177,659
2012 - 9,349 / 187,008
2013 - 6,840 / 193,848
 

Vena

Member
YSO predictions

Week 18, 2015 (Apr 27 - May 3)

[3DS] Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Bros. Edition < 180k
[WIU] Xenoblade Chronicles X < 90k
[WIU] Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online < 90k
[WII] Dragon Quest X: Inishie no Ryuu no Denshou Online < 90k
[WIU] Hardware - 15-20k

If this proves true, it looks like my guestimates weren't far off earlier in the thread about the hardware bump for the WiiU. That's a decent opening for XCX, too, all things considered.

Let's see if it will have legs to match or exceed the original.
 

small44

Member
Based on Comgnet you'd think IA/VT -Colorful- will trounce P4D. Does anyone think that will actually happen come release date? I get the sense that P4D is being underrepresented at Comg.

IA/VT -Colorful was available to pre-order a long time before Persona 4 dancing
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Sega just launched Hortensia Saga, one of the two big mobile games they debuted at TGS: https://www.appannie.com/apps/ios/app/orutanshia-saga-cangno-qi/

Mixi's Monster Stadium (PvP version of Monster Strike) also just came out: https://www.appannie.com/apps/ios/app/monsutosutajiamu/

You can tell it's a new game because instead of just not-Charmander, the icon also has not-Bulbasaur.

icon100x100.jpeg

Gonna follow both of them and Monster Gear when it comes out (next month).
Hortensia Saga will be the first to get an analysis, since it's the one that's already been out for a while.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
I feel like any Wii U HW bump is less important than finding the ability to stay over 7-8k on a weekly basis. But there's no games this summer though right? Except Splatoon.
 

ivysaur12

Banned
If this proves true, it looks like my guestimates weren't far off earlier in the thread about the hardware bump for the WiiU. That's a decent opening for XCX, too, all things considered.

Let's see if it will have legs to match or exceed the original.

That would be very decent for XCX, though my guess is that its legs wouldn't match the original considering it's a sequel and, because of Golden Week, it's going to be front-loaded anyway.

All things considered that's it's sort of lower-profile IP on a console with a low install base, sure. Fine. I'll take it.
 

hongcha

Member
Haven't we gotten some hints that DQH2 might draw more from Toukiden than Musou?

DQH 1 is more like Toukiden than Musou, I would guess DQH2 would expand on that. This is also why a Vita version makes sense (and might be popular).
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Btw, I noticed this in an Iwata Asks just now for Xenoblade 3D, but
"The overseas sales would never be higher than the Japanese sales unless that was the case." with regards to Xenoblade Chronicles. I always assumed it was likely, but was it ever confirmed before this?
 

ivysaur12

Banned
Btw, I noticed this in an Iwata Asks just now, but
"The overseas sales would never be higher than the Japanese sales unless that was the case." with regards to Xenoblade Chronicles. I always assumed it was likely, but was it ever confirmed?

It was confirmed by an Iwata Asks :p
 

saichi

Member
FFVII
FFX

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/squaresoft-discusses-ffx-sales-forecasts/1100-2782828/
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ir/e/explanatory/download/0404-200308040000-01.pdf

I remember reading Squaresoft's previous IR reports that they hoped to achieve 10 million units with FFX, as stated with the link above, and SE's report that the FFX saga had reach 10 million units later on (though it seems they bundled X & X-2 upon further verification).

Did you even read what you post? The Gamespot article is a forecast by SE which it doesn't look like they achieved it based on the PDF. In page 5 of the PDF, it shows FFVII sold a little over 9 mil and FFX&X2 sold a little less than 8 mil.

RpVM4C4.png
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Did you even read what you post? The Gamespot article is a forecast by SE which it doesn't look like they achieved it based on the PDF. In page 5 of the PDF, it shows FFVII sold a little over 9 mil and FFX&X2 sold a little less than 8 mil.

RpVM4C4.png

I remember reading Squaresoft's previous IR reports that they hoped to achieve 10 million units with FFX - 1, as stated with the link above, and SE's report that the FFX saga had reach 10 million units later on (though it seems they bundled X & X-2 upon further verification) - 2 & 3 & 4

1 - Forecast
2 - FFX/X-2 & FFVII sold over 10 million
3 - Presentation references were given only to provide context of what the numbers looked like in 2003 upon merger of SE (JP #'s only for X-2).
4 - (parentheses segment) admission of mistake on my end for FFX

Anything else?
 

Kysen

Member
I just got 3k yen from Sony, apparently they were running a ps4 campaign. I guess that's one way of spurring sales.
 

hiska-kun

Member
Tsutaya's report

- Bravely Second topped the charts as it was expected. However, the impression is that the game started slow. The expectations are now on Golden Week for a second chance.
- Style Savvy 3 continued selling well, and Dying Light received a new shipment on the weekend. It might sold a little more units if it had arrived before.

For next week:

- Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition (3DS) is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are in perfect form, and should keep selling well in May.
- Second place should be for Dragon Quest X: Version 3 (Wii U and Wii). Users are still supporting the game and is expected to sell well.
- Xenoblade X is next. There's a bundle, and there's almost no jRPG fanbase on the system, that's why is expected to move hardware.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
It's weird how they explained the drop; i.e., the didn't. Also, they say P&D is stable, but all is pointing out that it is not actually stable, and is declining.

With respect to “Puzzle & Dragons,” the number of MAU (Monthly Active User*) is
increasing steadily due partly to the implementation of seasonal events.

Thats not really declining, seems just like most of their other ventures arent as profitable as they could be. Still searching for that second hit title.
Tsutaya's report

- Bravely Second topped the charts as it was expected. However, the impression is that the game started slow. The expectations are now on Golden Week for a second chance.
- Style Savvy 2 continued selling well, and Dying Light received a new shipment on the weekend. It might sold a little more units if it had arrived before.

For next week:

- Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition (3DS) is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are in perfect form, and should keep selling well in May.
- Second place should be for Dragon Quest X: Version 3 (Wii U and Wii). Users are still supporting the game and is expected to sell well.
- Xenoblade X is next. There's a bundle, and there's almost no jRPG fanbase on the system, that's why is expected to move hardware.

This would be easier if the WiiU wasnt such an expensive system. Even so the people who get the system for this game will sell the game + hardware back to the store once they finish it. Whatever Nintendo does for their next console - it better be affordable. Software prices are already quite high, so either games get cheaper or the mean to play them...no wonder the market is shrinking and cant compete with handhelds/mobile.
 
Thats not really declining, seems just like most of their other ventures arent as profitable as they could be. Still searching for that second hit title.

Yeah, but then:

“Puzzle & Dragons” has earned a solid position
as a nationally popular game and continues to generate stable revenue.

MAU might be increasing, but revenues seem stable, which is not a good sign.
 

L~A

Member
Tsutaya's report

- Bravely Second topped the charts as it was expected. However, the impression is that the game started slow. The expectations are now on Golden Week for a second chance.
- Style Savvy 2 continued selling well, and Dying Light received a new shipment on the weekend. It might sold a little more units if it had arrived before.

For next week:

- Puzzle & Dragons: Super Mario Edition (3DS) is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are in perfect form, and should keep selling well in May.
- Second place should be for Dragon Quest X: Version 3 (Wii U and Wii). Users are still supporting the game and is expected to sell well.
- Xenoblade X is next. There's a bundle, and there's almost no jRPG fanbase on the system, that's why is expected to move hardware.

This sounds good (except Bravely Second, but that was expected). Also, I think you mean Girls Mode 3, not 2 ;)
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Yeah, but then:


MAU might be increasing, but revenues seem stable, which is not a good sign.

True, but the game is entering its 4th year on the market and even with stronger competition (Monster Striker etc.)its still pretty much making as much money per day as the market allows for a single app.

While much further growth shouldnt be expected at this point - "stable" should be enough with the Return on investment they get from PaD. They still have time to work and present their "next big thing".
 

Wiggy

Member
Tsutaya's report

- Bravely Second topped the charts as it was expected. However, the impression is that the game started slow. The expectations are now on Golden Week for a second chance.
- Style Savvy 2 continued selling well, and Dying Light received a new shipment on the weekend. It might sold a little more units if it had arrived before..

Is it me or are we hearing about under shipping a lot lately?
 
So DQH is now over 810k according to Famitsu.

I wonder if the second game will do anything like this. Unfortunately I think it'll suffer the same fate every second spin off Musou game does.
So worldwide sales, I imagine this will hit 1 million then. It would be nice if the sequel doesn't have a huge drop off. The first game is PS3/PS4 in Japan and PS4 only everywhere else, correct?
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
So worldwide sales, I imagine this will hit 1 million then. It would be nice if the sequel doesn't have a huge drop off. The first game is PS3/PS4 in Japan and PS4 only everywhere else, correct?

It will easily hit 1 million worldwide once launched internationally.

I wonder if Square/Koei will ever confirm this though.
 
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