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Media Create Sales: Week 19, 2011 (May 9 - May 15)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Graphics Horse
Member
Fair enough, I assumed we'd been sidetracked into worldwide talk 
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Cygnus X-1
Member
Pureauthor said:
It's a fact that Nintendo really need to organize their developments and their respective schedules way better. You can't bring a new console to the market with a so poor line-up.
Enterbrain gave hardware forecast
''Enterbrain released its annual industry white paper yesterday. While the content of the report is available only to those who pay the ¥31,500 asking price, some details have leaked out via a correction chart that was released today.
The big area of interest is this chart which shares the company's hardware sales forecasts for the current and next calendar years:
The current year is the column second from right. Next year is the far right column. Here's what's listed:
Nintendo DS
2011: 1,545,000, 2012: 587,000
Nintendo 3DS
2011: 2,868,000, 2012: 2,475,000
PlayStation Portable
2011: 2,378,000, 2012: 1,036,000
Wii
2011: 948,000, 2012: 481,000
PlayStation 3
2011: 1,469,000, 2012: 1,413,000
Xbox 360
2011: 122,000, 2012: 105,000
PlayStation 2
2011: 48,000, 2012: 0
Next Generation
2011: 547,000, 2012: 2,311,000
The chart doesn't specify what "next generation" refers to. At present, NGP is expected in 2011, so that's presumably what the 547,000 in 2011 refers to. NGP and Wii 2 may account for the 2,211,000 in 2012.
You can see the data more visibly in this bar graph. 2012 is to the right and 2011 is second from right. From top to bottom, the systems in the key are next generation, other, PS2, X360, PS3, Wii, Game Boy Advance, PSP, 3DS and DS.
Notice the falling trend in hardware sales? Enterbrain expects 2011 to see a slight boost in hardware sales from last year's 9,441,900 to 9,925,000. But it expects a big drop off next year to 8,408,000.
Of course, all of this is mere change to 2007, where DS, PSP and 3DS were on fire and helped push system sales to 16,156,100 units.''
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/19/enterbrain_forecasts/
but with the record they have I doubt they'll be close
''Enterbrain released its annual industry white paper yesterday. While the content of the report is available only to those who pay the ¥31,500 asking price, some details have leaked out via a correction chart that was released today.
The big area of interest is this chart which shares the company's hardware sales forecasts for the current and next calendar years:
The current year is the column second from right. Next year is the far right column. Here's what's listed:
Nintendo DS
2011: 1,545,000, 2012: 587,000
Nintendo 3DS
2011: 2,868,000, 2012: 2,475,000
PlayStation Portable
2011: 2,378,000, 2012: 1,036,000
Wii
2011: 948,000, 2012: 481,000
PlayStation 3
2011: 1,469,000, 2012: 1,413,000
Xbox 360
2011: 122,000, 2012: 105,000
PlayStation 2
2011: 48,000, 2012: 0
Next Generation
2011: 547,000, 2012: 2,311,000
The chart doesn't specify what "next generation" refers to. At present, NGP is expected in 2011, so that's presumably what the 547,000 in 2011 refers to. NGP and Wii 2 may account for the 2,211,000 in 2012.
You can see the data more visibly in this bar graph. 2012 is to the right and 2011 is second from right. From top to bottom, the systems in the key are next generation, other, PS2, X360, PS3, Wii, Game Boy Advance, PSP, 3DS and DS.
Notice the falling trend in hardware sales? Enterbrain expects 2011 to see a slight boost in hardware sales from last year's 9,441,900 to 9,925,000. But it expects a big drop off next year to 8,408,000.
Of course, all of this is mere change to 2007, where DS, PSP and 3DS were on fire and helped push system sales to 16,156,100 units.''
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/19/enterbrain_forecasts/
AdventureRacing
Member
Chris1964 said:
Maybe thats why its selling so slowly at the moment
Father_Brain
Banned
They expect 3DS to sell less in 2012 than 2011? That's... interesting.
Akiba's Trip this week biggest release
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25751/
Dead or Alive: Dimensions at last
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25745/
Portal 2 hit's Japan
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25740/
more releases for the week
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25733/
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25751/
Dead or Alive: Dimensions at last
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25745/
Portal 2 hit's Japan
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25740/
more releases for the week
http://www.true-gaming.net/home/25733/
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
First: all signs show great first day sell-throughs for Akiba Strip, pretty decent sell-through for DOA(Both temporally sold out at amazon, Akiba Strip is selling at high prices from wholesalers). Portal 2 is okay....
This has been mentioned many many times before, but ,let me repeat, Japan has become it's own little isolated island in terms of games,
Love Plus, Monster Hunter, Girls who want history elements with cute boys, K-ON, AKB48(300k+ copies!), A bunch of anime-inspired games.
The Sociologist Hiroki Azuma basically predicated this 10 years ago: You've got a database of elements being pulled from, moe-anime-parts, monster hunter parts, Consumers demand/care more about these parts(How many games not having these parts have been hits in recent years?) then the overall package. yet these parts don't flow outside of Japan.
It also doesn't help that most games in Japan outside of Nintendo are still being made for 13 year olds(Can't find the article now, but one of the designers of FF explicitly stated that the target is always teens, not people who graduated from the game)
Turning the topic back to the enjoyable topic of birth rates, here is an interesting chart I saw the other day
Blue line is the 14 year old population in Japan, Red line is sales of the most popular manga series Shonen Jump(big red horizointal line is when Shonen Jump had Dragon Ball). Yes, Blue oceans games are a must!
drawing comparisons between publishing companies(INTERNET KILLS THEM) and games is not entirely accurate, but it's a fun chart none the less.
[Nintex] said:
This has been mentioned many many times before, but ,let me repeat, Japan has become it's own little isolated island in terms of games,
Love Plus, Monster Hunter, Girls who want history elements with cute boys, K-ON, AKB48(300k+ copies!), A bunch of anime-inspired games.
The Sociologist Hiroki Azuma basically predicated this 10 years ago: You've got a database of elements being pulled from, moe-anime-parts, monster hunter parts, Consumers demand/care more about these parts(How many games not having these parts have been hits in recent years?) then the overall package. yet these parts don't flow outside of Japan.
It also doesn't help that most games in Japan outside of Nintendo are still being made for 13 year olds(Can't find the article now, but one of the designers of FF explicitly stated that the target is always teens, not people who graduated from the game)
Turning the topic back to the enjoyable topic of birth rates, here is an interesting chart I saw the other day
Blue line is the 14 year old population in Japan, Red line is sales of the most popular manga series Shonen Jump(big red horizointal line is when Shonen Jump had Dragon Ball). Yes, Blue oceans games are a must!
drawing comparisons between publishing companies(INTERNET KILLS THEM) and games is not entirely accurate, but it's a fun chart none the less.
The_lascar
Member
Mhhhhh.Chris1964 said:
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
perfectchaos007 said:and its not going to get better!
I'll go to japan and make plenty of babies...
What's the first red horizontal line ? Saint Seya ?FINALFANTASYDOG said:
Blue line is the 14 year old population in Japan, Red line is sales of the most popular manga series Shonen Jump(big red horizointal line is when Shonen Jump had Dragon Ball). Yes, Blue oceans games are a must!
drawing comparisons between publishing companies(INTERNET KILLS THEM) and games is not entirely accurate, but it's a fun chart none the less.
The small spike after the crash must be caused by One Piece.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Isn't well before the NGP's launch a bit early to say that those predictions were off? DS has been made obsolete and slowed down a lot before its successor was ready to become the Next Big Thing; who knows what the PSP->NGP transition will be like.Regulus Tera said:
They expect 3DS to do significantly worse than original DS did in the same period in 2005 without the benefit of launch.Chris1964 quoting Enterbrain said:
Leaks from Famitsu White Paper have started to come out.
There is a version this year that contains a CD with the book in PDF format. It costs much more than the book alone though (50.400 vs. 31.500 yen) and I don't think it's possible geimin will prefer it for immediate post of top 1000, if the file isn't locked of course.
There is a version this year that contains a CD with the book in PDF format. It costs much more than the book alone though (50.400 vs. 31.500 yen) and I don't think it's possible geimin will prefer it for immediate post of top 1000, if the file isn't locked of course.
FINALFANTASYDOG
Member
Magicpaint said:
Since this gets brought up in every media create thread: Iwata Reiterated his point once more in the recent Iwata asks :resident evil
[URL="http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/interview/creators/vol8/index5.html" said:
Basically: He re-states the reason ar games and 3d camera were nicely given to us for free, was so that we could share experiences and tell/show our friends how awesome the 3ds is.
Kawada then basically goes and says: Instead of thourgh the media, friends sharing is the way to appeal the 3ds. AND RESIDENT EVIL is the new ultimate way to do that!
Leon S. Kennedy
Member
yankee666 said:
They should drop it to 12,000 yen with no pack-in software. That would be about $150 which is what its selling for now in the U.S. with Mario Kart. I think that would help if it cost much less than half the price of the ps3 and pick up sales significantly. Although that would make the DS3 look like a bad deal at 25000 yen.
HK-47 said:
Hasn't someone mentioned a Brain Training 3 in development for 3DS in the MC threads? Kind of fuzzy on specifics.
Regardless, the price is still too high. Too high. Like releasing Minna no Golf 5 for PS3 in 2007. Price is too high to bring in the people who'd consistently buy that software.
Probably
Grampa Simpson
Banned
What are rows 4 and 9?Chris1964 said:
Edit: 4 is Game Boy Advance. What is 9?
Dedication Through Light
Member
donny2112 said:Hasn't someone mentioned a Brain Training 3 in development for 3DS in the MC threads? Kind of fuzzy on specifics.
Regardless, the price is still too high. Too high. Like releasing Minna no Golf 5 for PS3 in 2007. Price is too high to bring in the people who'd consistently buy that software..Probably
Heh, the game that made me rush out to buy a PS3 when it released in the west, had to have my HSG fix, was so worth it.
What would Brain Training 3 have, even more sudoku? Are people still in the sudoku craze?
I'm both anxious, and nervous about Cardboard Senki. I'm anxious because I think the game looks pretty sweet, and I'd probably get a kick out of playing. I'm nervous because I fear it could be a death blow to the current mini Medabots revival (even though the games are really different they're both targeting the exact same market with the same concept) since I doubt Level 5 will keep it PSP/Droid exclusive for ever.
I'd have a better chance at playing a localized Cardboard Senki game than a modern localized Medabots game at this point.
21. / 23. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) {2009.10.01}
22. / 00. [PSP] Disgaea 2 Portable [PSP the Best] (Nippon Ichi Software) {2011.05.12}
23. / 25. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei Tecmo) {2011.03.10}
24. / 26. [PSP] Amagami (EBKore+) (Kadokawa Shoten) {2011.03.31}
25. / 17. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Remote Plus) (Nintendo) {2010.11.11}
26. / 21. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5) {2011.02.26}
27. / 13. [PS3] El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron (Ignition) {2011.04.28}
28. / 39. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.10.28}
29. / 28. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (Sega) {2011.02.24}
30. / 16. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {2009.12.03}
31. / 24. [PSP] GachiTora! Abarenbou Kyoushi in High School (Spike) {2011.04.21}
32. / 00. [WII] Billy's Boot Camp: Enjoy the Diet on Wii! (Rocket Company) {2011.04.21}
33. / 30. [WII] Momotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki [Everyone's Recommendation Selection] (Hudson) {2011.01.20}
34. / 32. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.11.18}
35. / 27. [NDS] Magician's Quest: The Merchants Store of Sorcery (Konami) {2010.11.11}
36. / 47. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition [PlayStation 3 the Best] (Capcom) {2010.11.11}
37. / 48. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker [PSP the Best] (Konami) {2011.02.24}
38. / 22. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25}
39. / 19. [NDS] Detective Conan: Aoki Houseki no Rinbukyoku (Bandai Namco) {2011.04.21}
40. / 37. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) {2008.01.31}
41. / 00. [PS3] Demon's Souls [PlayStation 3 the Best] (SCE) {2010.02.25}
42. / 41. [PSP] Persona 2: Innocent Sin (Atlus Co.) {2011.04.14}
43. / 38. [PS3] SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs 4 (SCE) {2011.04.21}
44. / 40. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco) {2010.09.09}
45. / 33. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) {2009.06.18}
46. / 42. [WII] Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles [Best Price!] (Capcom) {2011.04.21}
47. / 45. [PSP] Dissidia: 012 (Duodecim) Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2011.03.03}
48. / 31. [WII] Super Mario All-Stars (Nintendo) {2010.10.21}
49. / 36. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 3 (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}
50. / 43. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village [PSP the Best] (Capcom) {2011.04.21}
PSP - 19
WII - 12
PS3 - 8
NDS - 7
3DS - 4
360 - 0
PS2 - 0
SOFTWARE
22. / 00. [PSP] Disgaea 2 Portable [PSP the Best] (Nippon Ichi Software) {2011.05.12}
23. / 25. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei Tecmo) {2011.03.10}
24. / 26. [PSP] Amagami (EBKore+) (Kadokawa Shoten) {2011.03.31}
25. / 17. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Remote Plus) (Nintendo) {2010.11.11}
26. / 21. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5) {2011.02.26}
27. / 13. [PS3] El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron (Ignition) {2011.04.28}
28. / 39. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.10.28}
29. / 28. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (Sega) {2011.02.24}
30. / 16. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {2009.12.03}
31. / 24. [PSP] GachiTora! Abarenbou Kyoushi in High School (Spike) {2011.04.21}
32. / 00. [WII] Billy's Boot Camp: Enjoy the Diet on Wii! (Rocket Company) {2011.04.21}
33. / 30. [WII] Momotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki [Everyone's Recommendation Selection] (Hudson) {2011.01.20}
34. / 32. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.11.18}
35. / 27. [NDS] Magician's Quest: The Merchants Store of Sorcery (Konami) {2010.11.11}
36. / 47. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition [PlayStation 3 the Best] (Capcom) {2010.11.11}
37. / 48. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker [PSP the Best] (Konami) {2011.02.24}
38. / 22. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25}
39. / 19. [NDS] Detective Conan: Aoki Houseki no Rinbukyoku (Bandai Namco) {2011.04.21}
40. / 37. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) {2008.01.31}
41. / 00. [PS3] Demon's Souls [PlayStation 3 the Best] (SCE) {2010.02.25}
42. / 41. [PSP] Persona 2: Innocent Sin (Atlus Co.) {2011.04.14}
43. / 38. [PS3] SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs 4 (SCE) {2011.04.21}
44. / 40. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco) {2010.09.09}
45. / 33. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) {2009.06.18}
46. / 42. [WII] Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles [Best Price!] (Capcom) {2011.04.21}
47. / 45. [PSP] Dissidia: 012 (Duodecim) Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2011.03.03}
48. / 31. [WII] Super Mario All-Stars (Nintendo) {2010.10.21}
49. / 36. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 3 (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}
50. / 43. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village [PSP the Best] (Capcom) {2011.04.21}
PSP - 19
WII - 12
PS3 - 8
NDS - 7
3DS - 4
360 - 0
PS2 - 0
SOFTWARE
Code:
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD |
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| ALL | 430.000 | 697.000 | 630.889 | 17.111.000 | 21.411.899 |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Dedication Through Light
Member
2 games from 2009 are still chugging. I guess that will forever remain the year of Nintendo. Nice.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
donny2112 said:
the week before pandora's tower might not have been a great time to make that statement ahahah
Stumpokapow said:the week before pandora's tower might not have been a great time to make that statement ahahah
"CAN sell pretty well"
I'd assume the original question was in regard to third-parties, since we know Nintendo games can sell in Japan. In that case, limiting their top of the line games to the runner-up systems didn't really help that notion a whole lot. If Cafe takes a Wii-like good performance out of the gate for the first couple of years but with full/strong third-party support, the current console doldrums for third-parties might turn around. Lot of dependencies/uncertainties there, though.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
It could be the PS2 all over again, but from Nintendo. Assuming nothing particularly counterintuitive from Nintendo, it's going to be in 3rd party hands.donny2112 said:
Sammy Samusu
Member
Dead or Alive it's time to sweep the charts!
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So I worked on this a bit more. I wondered: if 3DS behaved like DS during the rest of the year, what constant amount would it need to be scaled down to hit 2.87 million? As it turns out, it needs to do about 55.5% of what Enterbrain says DS did in 2005.JoshuaJSlone said:
Media Create says this was the lowest week of 2011 but in reality it's the lowest since 2009 that they started give total software sales. This is the bottom top 3
{2011.05.09 - 2011.05.15} - 430.000
{2009.06.08 - 2009.06.14} - 556.694
{2009.05.11 - 2009.05.17} - 567.267
Going even further including top 100 software sales from 2006 to 2008 it still remains the lowest and including 2005 that market had dived there are only 6 weeks in 2005 with top 100 lower than this week.
{2011.05.09 - 2011.05.15} - 430.000
{2009.06.08 - 2009.06.14} - 556.694
{2009.05.11 - 2009.05.17} - 567.267
Going even further including top 100 software sales from 2006 to 2008 it still remains the lowest and including 2005 that market had dived there are only 6 weeks in 2005 with top 100 lower than this week.
cw_sasuke said:
Yeah, it was just the pre-launch expectation for 3DS matched the wording from bmf, so it wasn't a good sign that 3DS has started so badly. PS2 didn't start badly, after all. Hopefully it turns around, though. Not seeing it coming, yet, but our visibility into 3DS's future is very limited with Nintendo at the helm.
Grampa Simpson
Banned
E3 may change perceptions. It would have been a more spectacular launch had it been before new years, but that might have cause software issues.donny2112 said:Yeah, it was just the pre-launch expectation for 3DS matched the wording from bmf, so it wasn't a good sign that 3DS has started so badly. PS2 didn't start badly, after all. Hopefully it turns around, though. Not seeing it coming, yet, but our visibility into 3DS's future is very limited with Nintendo at the helm.
Beyond the software their biggest problem has to be that it doesn't do enough to differentiate itself from the DSi in consumers eyes for the price that they're charging.
At Amazon
DSi 15,000
DSi LL 16,905
3DS
If it were ~18,000 it would probably be selling like it should be, and could be used as a way to phase out the DSi.
Maybe we'll see a kickstart with a lower price and some new software this holiday. I'd like it to get all the software that the successor to the DS should get, because otherwise, I think that we may be coming to the end of one of my favorite system lines.
Edit: Ha! I still seem to be bmf.
