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Media Create Sales: Week 2, 2016 (Jan 11 - Jan 17)

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Moor-Angol

Banned
L~A said:
Nope, only download cards, and I'm sure there wasn't any for that game.
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the only thing might be that M-C didn't track the limited edition, which was sold exclusively on 3 shops

actually i don't have any other idea about such a huge difference
 
S

sense

Member
persona 5 will show much bigger growth worldwide than it will in japan imo. 350k fw in japan does seem low tho. i would go with 425-450k
 
K

Kresnik258

Member
Fisico said:
Persona 4 "only" sold 300k on PS2, and Persona 4 Golden hasn't crossed the 350k threshold yet after having incredible legs for years.
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Only a small thing, but it's almost definitely passed 350k with digital and I think it's likely it passed it at retail too. The original SKU was at 329,050 at the end of 2014. The budget re-release sold 3,574 FW at the beginning of 2015, which is a pretty high FW for a budget re-release on Vita. I'd imagine once we get Media Create white paper for 2015 it'll be at > 350k with all SKU's combined.

Not that that makes a massive difference to your point, but still :p
 
R

RPGamer92

Banned
Fisico said:
Well I think you overestimate it.

Persona 4 "only" sold 300k on PS2, and Persona 4 Golden hasn't crossed the 350k threshold yet after having incredible legs for years.

Sure there's growth, but no one really knows how much exactly and I don't think pointing to 100-250k selling spin-off, a 25k/volume TV series (and a second one not exactly as hot) is a metric good enough to think that Persona 5 will sell 800k rather than 500k LTD.
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Persona 5 will also be on two systems at launch.
 
Go_Ly_Dow

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Fisico said:
Well I think you overestimate it.

Persona 4 "only" sold 300k on PS2, and Persona 4 Golden hasn't crossed the 350k threshold yet after having incredible legs for years.

Sure there's growth, but no one really knows how much exactly and I don't think pointing to 100-250k selling spin-off, a 25k/volume TV series (and a second one not exactly as hot) is a metric good enough to think that Persona 5 will sell 800k rather than 500k LTD.
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My reasons for anticipating massive growth....

-Golden is an enhanced port of P4 that sold more than the original despite being on a lower install base. That's not common at all with re-releases. Once again, a new port sold more than the original!

-25k per volume is actually very good for an anime. Enough so that it warranted yet another adaption. Anime's have in the past propelled video game sales, such as Yokai Watch.

-Persona 5 is tracking higher than FFXV in Famitu's most anticipated poll. Not the greatest metric to guesstimate sales, but that is still a very strong message of how popular the brand is now.

-Outside of previous sales analysis, the Persona series has had very continuous and positive word of mouth. Many will be interested who haven't previously played a Persona game. All the spinoffs have given the series decent exposure to new audiences.

I think the thirst is very much real for P5 and a great RPG, across both PS3 and PS4.
 
small44

small44

Member
Fisico said:
Well I think you overestimate it.

Persona 4 "only" sold 300k on PS2, and Persona 4 Golden hasn't crossed the 350k threshold yet after having incredible legs for years.

Sure there's growth, but no one really knows how much exactly and I don't think pointing to 100-250k selling spin-off, a 25k/volume TV series (and a second one not exactly as hot) is a metric good enough to think that Persona 5 will sell 800k rather than 500k LTD.
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For a enhanced port to outsold the original game mean the serie is growing
 
M

matmanx1

Member
Kyoufu said:
I just want Star Ocean 5 to be successful enough for tri-Ace/Square-Enix to work together again.

*cough* VP3 *cough*
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I second this. Great opening week for Odin's Sphere remake as well. Hopefully the western release will be just as good if not better. Good for Atlus and Vanillaware.
 
H

hiska-kun

Member
Mario Kart 8 VS Mario Maker
Code: 
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|    |   Mario Kart 8    | Super Mario Maker |  Difference  | 
|    | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [WIU] (2015/09/10)|              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |  SMM - MK8   | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|  1 |  325.892|  325.892|  138.242|  138.242|      -187.650|
|  2 |   73.051|  398.943|   54.544|  192.785|      -206.158|
|  3 |   42.261|  441.205|   52.396|  245.182|      -196.023| 
|  4 |   28.112|  469.316|   30.150|  275.332|      -193.984| 
|  5 |   23.520|  492.837|   24.533|  299.865|      -192.972|  
|  6 |   19.386|  512.223|   21.357|  321.222|      -191.001|  
|  7 |   15.143|  527.366|   15.817|  337.039|      -190.327|  
|  8 |   14.992|  542.358|   13.764|  350.803|      -191.555|  
|  9 |   18.129|  560.487|   15.364|  366.167|      -194.320| 
| 10 |   18.067|  578.554|   12.442|  378.609|      -199.945| 
| 11 |   20.860|  599.414|   13.184|  391.793|      -207.621| 
| 12 |   28.221|  627.635|   18.639|  410.432|      -217.203| 
| 13 |   12.075|  639.710|   32.155|  442.588|      -197.122| 
| 14 |   11.148|  650.858|   48.600|  491.188|      -159.670|
| 15 |    8.221|  659.079|   84.789|  575.977|       -83.102|
| 16 |    6.839|  665.918|   98.155|  674.132|         8.214|
| 17 |    6.396|  672.313|   52.753|  726.885|        54.572|
| 18 |    5.936|  678.250|   25.854|  752.739|        74.489|
| 19 |    4.517|  682.767|   14.342|  767.081|        84.314|
| 20 |    3.996|  686.763|         |         |              |
| 21 |    3.625|  690.387|         |         |              |
| 22 |    2.821|  693.208|         |         |              |
| 23 |    3.170|  696.378|         |         |              |
| 24 |    3.210|  699.588|         |         |              |
| 25 |   13.544|  713.132|         |         |              |
| 26 |    8.752|  721.884|         |         |              |
| 27 |   12.742|  734.626|         |         |              |
| 28 |   19.244|  753.870|         |         |              |
| 29 |   24.938|  778.808|         |         |              |
| 30 |   34.331|  813.139|         |         |              |
| 31 |   38.637|  851.776|         |         |              |
| 32 |   28.403|  880.180|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|Total        -|1.187.570|        -|  767.081|     -420.489|      
-------------------------------------------------------------
 
D

donny2112

Member
Chris1964 said:
01./00. [PSV] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <RPG> (Atlus) {2016.01.14} (¥7.980) - 43.394 / NEW
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A few weeks into the new year, and the top-selling game of the week is already under 50K. Wow.

Edit:
I guess it's not super unusual, then. Last year was Youkai Watch 2: Shinuchi at just over 50K. < 50K for #1 has happened in January in 2012 (MK7), 2009 (Play on Wii: Mario Tennis GC and Dissidia: Final Fantasy), 2004 (GT4:prologue), and 2002 (GT Concept: 2001 Tokyo). It just doesn't happen a lot.
 
F

Fisico

Member
Kresnik258 said:
The budget re-release
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Oh yes forgot that one, it did show up a few times in MC weekly top 50 even.

RPGamer92 said:
Persona 5 will also be on two systems at launch.
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Well yes like every major 3rd party japanese release for the past few years, but considering almost every PS4 owner was most likely a PS3 owner beforehand I don't think it really matters.

Multiplatform is a benefit if it grows the overall audience you're trying to reach, here it's more because a notable part of the PS3 audience hasn't migrated to PS4 yet.

Like a PS4/3DS release would have changed a lot regarding sales prediction, even PS4/PSV would have impacted it in some way, but PS3/PS4? Not really

small44 said:
For a enhanced port to outsold the original game mean the serie is growing
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Not saying the opposite, I mean my own prediction is 100% growth since P4.

M_Night said:
-25k per volume is actually very good for an anime. Enough so that it warranted yet another adaption. Anime's have in the past propelled video game sales, such as Yokai Watch.

-Persona 5 is tracking higher than FFXV in Famitu's most anticipated poll. Not the greatest metric to guesstimate sales, but that is still a very strong message of how popular the brand is now.

-Outside of previous sales analysis, the Persona series has had very continuous and positive word of mouth. Many will be interested who haven't previously played a Persona game. All the spinoffs have given the series decent exposure to new audiences.
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25K is more than very good, it's amongst the top 5 TV anime sellers for a year, but did it reach a new audience? I don't think it did or at least not that much, also your Yokai Watch comparison is moot since Persona 4 was your typical late night anime, you don't "grow" the audience of an IP like Persona by airing something past midnight on cable tv channels.

10 years ago Persona 3 was already in the top 3 spots of most wanted famitsu on a regular basis, sometimes above MGS4 and Resident Evil 5, still remember it as a nice joke since no one really knew the series back then. (and the game ended up selling 200k)
Also the FF series is on a decline overall and probably isn't as appealing as it was before to the core audience voting in these famitsu polls, but yeah these polls are a bad metric for the overall market anyway.

On that point I agree, but I don't think that's enough to make Persona goes from 300k to 900k :)
 
F

Fisico

Member
Mory Dunz said:
I thought big JRPGs usually don't have legs to double their first week. Like doesn't FF get huge drops?

480k fw, 700 ltd.
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Usually yes, but when the audience of an IP is growing past the release of the game and/or when the game releases early on a console life cycle and/or it has good word of mouth it can have legs.

Persona 4 Golden fit all 3 criteria and had a 150k FW and is around 350k LTD

I don't think that Persona 5 will double its FW sales, but it shouldn't be as frontloaded as a FF/Tales of title.
 
T

test_account

XP-39C²
Amazing Odin Sphere sales!


Pennywise83 said:
Quite reaching to compare the third parties situation on Wii U and a game in a popular IP in the monster-catching genre on 3DS. Publishers also make bad decisions all the time.
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I didnt really compare anything, so it wasnt any reaching. I was just commenting on what you said about that you didnt hope publishers greenlit games on Vita just to give Vita some games too. If they did this, then they would do it for the WiiU as well, concidering how low 3rd party support it has. Yes, publishers makes bad decisions sometimes indeed, but not on purpose, and they're not "giving" games to lower supported platform games just to be kind.
 
P

Pennywise83

Banned
test_account said:
Amazing Odin Sphere sales!



My point wasnt about any games in particular, so there was no reaching. It was about what you said that you didnt hope publishers greenlit games on Vita just to give Vita some games too. If they did this, then they would do it for the WiiU as well, concidering how low 3rd party support it has. Yes, publishers makes bad decisions sometimes indeed, but not on purpose, and they're not "giving" lower supported platform games just to be kind.
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Indeed - they greenlited games on PSV because they thought it would have been financially worthwile, not because "just give PSV some games". That's what I wrote.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Pennywise83 said:
Indeed - they greenlited games on PSV because they thought it would have been financially worthwile, not because "just give PSV some games". That's what I wrote.
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I see what you mean now. When you wrote " I do hope publishers are not greenliting PSV games because "let the PS Vita have some games".", i was taking that more litterally, saying that they arent doing that.
 
A

Arzehn

Member
So are PSTV sales no longer tracked, or are they lumped into PSV sales? Yes they were only a 500-600 usually, but sales are sales. Weird to stop tracking when we have numbers like 99 from X1.
 
S

Sterok

Member
Good for Atlus/Sega. Good news for them is always good.

Has there ever been a week where a device was tracked in the single digits?
 
Go_Ly_Dow

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Moor-Angol said:
200k first week ? totally unreasonable
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01./00. [PS3] Yakuza 0 <ADV> (Sega) {2015.03.12} (¥8.845) - 145.823 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Yakuza 0 <ADV> (Sega) {2015.03.12} (¥8.845) - 90.506 / NEW

Given that this is technically the 3rd rerelease of this game (Yakuza 1, Yakuza 1 HD, Yakuza Kiwami) I think expecting an even bigger drop than 0 is reasonable.

Of course, you may also get the reverse as this is a great entry point for people interested in the series.

6 needs to refresh the series even more than 5 did, franchise fatigue warning signs popping up.
 
Refreshment.01

Refreshment.01

Member
Looking at how thin the upcoming Wii U release list looks, i wonder if Nintendo is contemplating Pikmin 4 for a potential crossplatform release between Wii U and NX.

i would say the prospects look even worse in Japan than in America and Europe, in part because two of the future releases are Zelda games. And Zelda as a franchise performs better in the other parts.

This is taking into consideration Miyamoto's comments about the project been very far along and things like that.
 
Go_Ly_Dow

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Fisico said:
On that point I agree, but I don't think that's enough to make Persona goes from 300k to 900k :)
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Haha, rash I know, but my gut feeling still tells me that P5 will see massive growth. Perhaps 900k peak is a bit mad, but 700-800k LTD... BELIEVE!
 
M

mclem

Member
Rymuth said:
100 Xbone consoles on the wall,
100 Xbone consoles on the wall,
You take it one down, spin it around,
99 Xbone consoles on the wall
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Ninety-nine Famitsu bleats
Ninety-nine customers treat
To worry, worry, super scurry
Buy that console in a hurry
This is what we've waited for
This is it, boys, PS4
Mark Cerny is on the line
As ninety-nine Xbox Ones go by
 
M

Mory Dunz

Member
Refreshment.01 said:
Looking at how thin the upcoming Wii U release list looks, i wonder if Nintendo is contemplating Pikmin 4 for a potential crossplatform release between Wii U and NX.

i would say the prospects look even worse in Japan than in America and Europe, in part because two of the future releases are Zelda games. And Zelda as a franchise performs better in the other parts.

This is taking into consideration Miyamoto's comments about the project been very far along and things like that.
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The release schedule looks about the same level as every year.

Or you just talking about ~Aug-onwards, which we don't fully know about?
 
A

allan-bh

Member
Xbox One does OG Xbox seem a success in Japan.

The market for home consoles isn't in good shape but c'mon... this is a huge disaster.
 
T

twothunder

Member
01./00. [PSV] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <RPG> (Atlus) {2016.01.14} (¥7.980) - 43.394 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <RPG> (Atlus) {2016.01.14} (¥7.980) - 42.263 / NEW
10./00. [PS3] Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir <RPG> (Atlus) {2016.01.14} (¥7.980) - 9.771 / NEW

Odin Sphere doing pretty good. Nice to see

03./01. [3DS] Monster Hunter X # <ACT> (Capcom) {2015.11.28} (¥5.800) - 36.700 / 2.623.786 (-44%)
05./02. [3DS] Monster Strike <RPG> (Mixi) {2015.12.17} (¥4.500) - 19.576 / 757.807 (-50%)

Even the monsters slowing down quite a bit now

06./03. [WIU] Splatoon # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.05.28} (¥5.700) - 18.455 / 1.201.389 (-36%)
07./06. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch Busters: Red Cat Team / White Dog Squad <ACT> (Level 5) {2015.07.11} (¥4.600) - 14.716 / 2.161.824 (-35%)
08./04. [WIU] Super Mario Maker # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.09.10} (¥5.700) - 14.342 / 767.081 (-45%)
09./05. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 13.182 / 621.061 (-43%)

The sheer legs titles. Still going.
Splatoon on top even without new bundles. Guess the slower Wii-U sales impacted SMM harder. Splatoon might make it above Monster hunter as things slow down.

12./11. [3DS] Rhythm Heaven: The Best+ <ACT> (Nintendo) {2015.06.11} (¥4.700) - 6.546 / 636.070 (-25%)
18./10. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.03} (¥4.700) - 4.408 / 212.221 (-54%)

Nice to them still here

XB1 | 99
ouch. even if expected
 
L

L~A

Member
Went and checked that page, and it looks like Nintendo has fully discontinued the Nintendo 3DS XL.

It's not new (but got no idea when it was updated), but still interesting to see it sell so "much". Retailers must have a lot left in stock.
 
M

Mory Dunz

Member
twothunder said:
18./10. [3DS] Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam <RPG> (Nintendo) {2015.12.03} (¥4.700) - 4.408 / 212.221 (-54%)

Nice to them still here
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Will this be the lowest selling Mario RPG....period (worldwide)? edit: maybe japan too, but I don't the numbers at my fingertips.

According to Celine's thread, Paper Mario 64 is last at 1.37m
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Arzehn said:
So are PSTV sales no longer tracked, or are they lumped into PSV sales? Yes they were only a 500-600 usually, but sales are sales. Weird to stop tracking when we have numbers like 99 from X1.
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XB1 is the only active console from Microsoft in Japan and since Microsoft is subscriber at Media Create, like Xbox, they'll keep tracking it even when it falls at single digit sales.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
new releases


{2016.01.27}

[3DS] Nazo no Mini-Game: Choigae _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <ETC> (Mechanic Arms) (¥462)

[WIU] Wallaby!! Usagi no Kuni no Kangaroo Race _Wii U Virtual Console Version_ |DL| <SLG> (Extreme) (¥571)
[WIU] Medabots Nii Core: Metabee Ver. _Wii U Virtual Console Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Rocket Company) (¥650)
[WIU] Medabots Nii Core: Rokusho Ver. _Wii U Virtual Console Version_ |DL| <RPG> (Rocket Company) (¥650)


{2016.01.28}

[3DS] Mini-Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge _3DS Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Nintendo) (¥0)

[PSV] PlayStation Vita Dragon Quest Metal Slime Edition <H-W> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥25.980)
[PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥5.980)
[PSV] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥5.980)
[PSV] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 3 # <ACT> (Broccoli) (¥3.800)
[PSV] Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 3 (1/1)(Limited Excited Box) <ACT> (Broccoli) (¥5.800)
[PSV] Gakusen Toshi Asterisk Festa: Houka Kenran <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.800)
[PSV] Gakusen Toshi Asterisk Festa: Houka Kenran (1/1)(First Press Limited Edition) <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.900)
[PSV] Gakusen Toshi Asterisk Festa: Houka Kenran (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.800)
[PSV] Storm Lover 2nd V <ADV> (D3 Publisher) (¥5.980)
[PSV] Storm Lover 2nd V (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (D3 Publisher) (¥5.500)
[PSV] Taishou Moebius Line Vitable <ADV> (Dramatic Create) (¥5.400)
[PSV] Taishou Moebius Line Vitable (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Dramatic Create) (¥4.400)
[PSV] Double Force: Aya to Momiji no Dangan Shuzai Kikou - PlayStation Vita Edition _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ACT> (Mediascape) (¥2.778)

[WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash <SPT> (Nintendo) (¥4.700)
[WIU] Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash (.) _Nintendo eShop Download Version_ |DL| <SPT> (Nintendo) (¥4.700)
[WIU] Mini-Mario & Friends: amiibo Challenge _Wii U Download Software_ |DL| <PZL> (Nintendo) (¥0)

[PS4] PlayStation 4 Dragon Quest Builders Edition Jet Black <H-W> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥37.480)
[PS4] PlayStation 4 Dragon Quest Builders Edition Glacier White <H-W> (Sony Computer Entertainment) (¥37.480)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥7.800)
[PS4] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥7.800)
[PS4] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥8.800)
[PS4] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (1/2)(30th Anniversary Treasure Box) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥13.800)
[PS4] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (2/2)(GAMECITY Limited Set) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥68.800)
[PS4] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.619)
[PS4] Koihime Enbu # <FTG> (Yeti) (¥6.800)
[PS4] Koihime Enbu (1/1)(Limited Edtion) <FTG> (Yeti) (¥8.800)
[PS4] Koihime Enbu (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <FTG> (Yeti) (¥5.800)
[PS4] God Eater Off Shot: Soma Shikkuzaru-hen Twin Pack & Animation Vol.4 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥7.800)

[XB1] Xbox One 500GB + Kinect <H-W> (Microsoft Game Studios) (¥49.980)
[XB1] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥8.800)
[XB1] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (.) _Download Version_ |DL| <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.680)

[PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥6.800)
[PS3] Dragon Quest Builders: Alefgard o Fukkatsu Niseyo (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <ADV> (Square Enix) (¥6.800)
[PS3] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥8.800)
[PS3] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (1/2)(30th Anniversary Treasure Box) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥13.800)
[PS3] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (2/2)(GAMECITY Limited Set) <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥68.800)
[PS3] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.619)
[PS3] Koihime Enbu # <FTG> (Yeti) (¥6.800)
[PS3] Koihime Enbu (1/1)(Limited Edtion) <FTG> (Yeti) (¥8.800)
[PS3] Koihime Enbu (.) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <FTG> (Yeti) (¥5.800)
[PS3] TV Anime Idolm@ster: Cinderella Girls G4U! Pack Vol.8 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥9.980)
 
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