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[Jamix012]

I really hope that the Wii U can at least maintain a 10kish baseline from here on out rather than a 5k-8k one. That's about the most positive thing that could happen honestly, given these initial sales. What a mess the Wii U and, more broadly, the Japanese gaming market is.

Vita is one of the few actually up YoY. I don't get your comment. Should be aimed at the 3DS with its 50% hardware plunge.

First off, I hope you understand his comment isn't implying anything negative about the Vita except it's sales. Second off, what? Yeah the Vita is up YoY but that's not exactly something to be shouting from the rooftops given last year's sales. The 3DS situation is pretty unfortunate too, but it's marginally more acceptable because A) It is selling more than the Vita in raw numbers and B) It has a 15 million LTD already. Again, 3DS situation is not ideal at all either, but the Vita is the one which dropped this week, not the 3DS.

 

[NotLiquid]

As I said in the other topic, MK8 software is solid. WiiU hardware not so much. But I won't call it disastrous until we see the tail on the bump. If a new baseline establishes above 12k or so for awhile, that wouldn't be too bad. If it ends up back in the PS3/4 shit 6000 club in 3 weeks...

EDIT: No MK8 sell through percentages?

I think it was implied that 400k was the initial shipment.

 

[zeromcd73]

At this point, it's going to take the collective efforts of everyone in the console/handheld industry in Japan to kick start it all again.

That would be great if third parties could at least release their games multi-platform like Persona 5 or Tales of Zestiria which would sell more than anything currently on the PS4.

 

[biglittleps]

In Japanese market, at this point it isn't the WiiU but more like gaming console in general is in danger.

Yep, Home consoles are in danger and that's why sony chose not to launch there first for the first time.

 

[Black Republican]

damn good MK8 numbers, fucked up wii u tho

as for PS4, smh, anyone know when those gundam musuo games come for PS4? didnt they do pretty good for PS3 in Japan?

 

[Aostia]

at least I hope MK8 will help Wii U to stay above 10k for the month...

 

[Bruno MB]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

 

[RiggyRob]

Silver lining: Wii U beat the Vita this week. I honestly didn't expect that this time last week.

 

[Phediuk]

Well, I guess we can re-cross Mario Kart off the chalkboard.

Seriously, 19k?!?! That's it? How?

 

[Oersted]

Ah, this explain something. That's quite stupid from Nintendo. The rest of the world gets a bundle.

Maybe Nintendo counts on the excellent word of mouth.

They also didn't bundle Wii with Wii Sports. Its weird.

 

[Ty4on]

Excellent MK8 sales but mediocre hardware bump, Japan wants WiiU games but are not fond of the hardware.

I don't think they are buying WiiU games for their Wii

 

[DaBoss]

Are they going to do a MK bundle in Japan like the other territories?

I'm thinking they will save it for December.

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

lol

 

[Abdiel]

There's a DualShock controller laying in a pool of blood in the image. The joke is that Wii U killed PS4 behind the window.

Lol. I don't really know why people are surprised at how slowly the ps4 adoption is in Japan. Nothing has been released to their market, no must have title for Japanese audiences that isn't already available on the ps3. Those numbers are bad, no question, but it makes sense.

 

[BassForever]

Well, I guess we can re-cross Mario Kart off the chalkboard.

Seriously, 19k?!?! That's it? How?

Need a new chalk board that says console gaming in Japan

 

[Freeman]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

It is just naive to bet on that. I hope he doesn't really believe that.

 

[Asd202]

Heh In my prediction I vastly underestimated Mario Kart but I also overestimated WiiU by 3k .

 

[Nirolak]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

It can change the prognosis from bad to worse!

 

[LTWood12]

Sad to see the home console market so dried up.

 

[kuroneko0509]

Ouch PS4. Sony better release something catered to Japanese people or it will see 4K soon.
Kinda sad with the HW bump for Wii U. Expected it to break 20k

 

[random25]

One key release for this week is Persona Q. Let's see how much bump it can give the 3DS numbers.

And wow...Kirby mah boy nearing 600k...fantastic!

 

[mugurumakensei]

Next year:

That sounds like a pretty optimistic release date for FFXV at this rate.

Hahaha. I don't know which is the colder burn.

KH 3 might be out in 2015 since it's from a studio that can do somewhat timely releases.

 

[phanphare]

those 325,000 people better talk this game up! word of mouth seems to be doing wonders in the USA

 

[Kerub]

I hope MK8 can keep the Wii U selling until Smash Bros releases during winter. We can only pray for no heat waves.

 

[allan-bh]

Impressive debut for Mario Kart 8.

About hardware, of course is bad, but I believe Wii U will benefit in the long run.

 

[Tripon]

Looks like Heat Waves stops this train.

 

[Xater]

Even FF won't save the PS4. Sony needs to do something, maybe a price cut and get a lot more Japanese devs on board. Something tells me they aren't in much of a rush, the western market is far more important and Japan is a shell of what it once was.

Japanese development has turned to shit with the HD transition. What it Sony supposed to do? Hand money out to everyone so they stop doing mobile games? There are developers working on current gen stuff but they all are slow as molasses and take forever to transition.

 

[shinra-bansho]

Cross-posting from the other thread...

This is why I've been hesitant on the Wii U recovering in general.

Basically everything announced is a title you could have easily assumed from day one of the console and picked up as soon as something like Mario 3D World or NSMB U came out.

Given Mario 3D World appeals to much of the really core Nintendo enthusiast audience, I would suspect that picked up a pretty large chunk of them.

I pretty much agree.

If one takes the "point system"/tipping point described before "future games" has essentially always included the likes of Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong, Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda. These aren't exactly bolts from the blue. People knew they would come even before they were announced.

In theory, as each game gets closer and comes along, does the pool of potential buyers actually dwindle?

The same could potentially be applied to the PS4 in Japan I suppose.

 

[JoeM86]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

In Japan? Probably not. Worldwide? That remains to be seen.

 

[Subaru]

I think that Zelda Musou can help it, but these numbers are depressing

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Well 1.75 million people own the system and they're probably the type interested in playing something on it given enthusiasts have to be a pretty significant chunk of that.

more of that 1.7 need to go and get some MK8

wish we knew what the eShop sold because my purchases are all digital so I can't blame anyone in Japan that went ahead and downloaded without going to a retail store

 

[Scum]

That would be great if third parties could at least release their games multi-platform like Persona 5 or Tales of Zestiria which would sell more than anything currently on the PS4.

Err.. Knowing these incompetent goons in charge at most of these publishers, I'd expect less multiplatform IPs from them.

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

Oh, Iwata. You so cray cray.

 

[Santiako]

PS4 is doing amazingly bad wow

 

[Genki]

Wow @ the tiny Wii U bump.

 

[Interfectum]

Even FF won't save the PS4. Sony needs to do something, maybe a price cut and get a lot more Japanese devs on board. Something tells me they aren't in much of a rush, the western market is far more important and Japan is a shell of what it once was.

There's nothing Sony can do in Japan, IMO. Maybe a massive brainwashing campaign to make them care about game consoles again?

 

[Oersted]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

He continued with "but how unlikely it is, it isn't wise to count on that".
But somehow, some people failed to catch that part.

 

[-Setsuna-]

There was a home console market here, but it's gone now.

 

[Mpl90]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

If it were 2013, I'd agree in laughing at that. But the 2014's statement has a much different context, which makes it not insane, seriously XD

As said in the other thread (and by others here): the only thing we should hope for is an increased baseline for Wii U, which would still mean doing bad, but not being dead anymore.

...PS4 O_O

 

[Pain]

Bad sales for Wii U. This is the biggest release of the year....

 

[maxcriden]

....

....On the bright side, the attach rate of MK8 will end up being great.

 

[Nirolak]

The same could potentially be applied to the PS4 in Japan I suppose.

I think it has to have had to some extent.

I can't imagine 600K people bought a PS4 solely on the basis of a low-ish selling cross-gen Yakuza, an FF MMO, the MGS5 micro-game, and some Western titles.

 

[JoeM86]

He continued with "but how unlikely it is, it isn't wise to count on that".
But somehow, some people failed to catch that part.

Course not. You can't trash the man if you use the full quote

Seriously though, many news outlets did just take the first part of that quote and rolled with the "'One game can change everything' - says Iwata" story. That's why so many people think he was counting on it to do that.

 

[phanphare]

Iwata after he sees these numbers...

 

[Scum]

Cross-posting from the other thread...I pretty much agree.

If one takes the "point system"/tipping point described before "future games" has essentially always included the likes of Mario Kart 8, Donkey Kong, Super Mario, The Legend of Zelda. These aren't exactly bolts from the blue. People knew they would come even before they were announced.

In theory, as each game gets closer and comes along, does the pool of potential buyers actually dwindle?

The same could potentially be applied to the PS4 in Japan I suppose.

Time to throw in some unknown/long forgotten IPs into the mix.

 

[LOCK]

Hopefully the baseline has increased, that's more important. Will be interesting to see next weeks numbers.

 

[DaBoss]

I think it has to have had to some extent.

I can't imagine 600K people bought a PS4 solely on the basis of Yakuza, and FF MMO, the MGS5 micro-game, and some Western titles.

They bought it purely out of hype!

Spoiler

Inb4 another MC thread turned into a debate about what sold the PS4 in the west. When in reality it was a combination of everything that sold the PS4 in the west.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

It can change the prognosis from bad to worse!

And it also extend the prognosis to the entire traditional japanese gaming industry imho.....

 

[Devilgunman]

"One game can change everything" (Iwata dixit) but it will not definitely be Mario Kart 8 lol

Just to show how clueless he really is. That kind of thinking is no longer applicable in this era.

 

[Exile20]

1k a week down for PS4. In 7 weeks it will be........

 

[stilgar]

Well, at least a few mother won"t confuse it with the Wii when christmas comes.

 

[RiggyRob]

In Japan? Probably not.

Cross post from the last thread: I think an NFC game based around Pokemon/Yokai Watch/something similar could possibly help the Wii U recover, although at this point 'recover' means selling at 3DS levels, which aren't great right now either.