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[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

Are they gonna do a reprint or something once the anime comes out?

Most likely, probably a best version.

 

[Arzehn]

Man the graphics on Monster Hunter Frontier for Vita looks almost as bad as 3ds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heiiTA_x9FM
No effort in the port... :/

 

[Busaiku]

I don't think there was a ever any effort on the original game.

 

[Alrus]

Just check the amazon ranking and noticed the Smash boxart. They're really going with the "For the 3DS"/"For the Wii U" as the official name? It's so lazy :|

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Aligned:

PS3 - 8,102 / 2,081,842
Wii U - 12,576 / 1,782,283

July 17 - Wii Sports Club
August 07 - Dragon Quest X: One Package
August 14 - Hyrule Warriors
September 20 - Bayonetta 2
2014 - Super Smash Bros.
2014 - Captain Toad

 

[vinnygambini]

According to Amazon.co.jp, Smash Bros - ￥ 5,616 3DS.

Is that a first for Nintendo, usually it's ￥ 4,937 ?

 

[KtSlime]

According to Amazon.co.jp, Smash Bros - ￥ 5,616 3DS.

Is that a first for Nintendo, usually it's ￥ 4,937 ?

It is, but not by much, I think kid Icarus sold around that price point. Most Nintendo game retail at ¥4,571. So it is quite a bit higher than the norm for Nintendo.

 

[BriBri]

According to Amazon.co.jp, Smash Bros - ￥ 5,616 3DS.

Is that a first for Nintendo, usually it's ￥ 4,937 ?

Yes, it's a first. Yoshi is the typical price however so maybe it's only Smash Bros.? I guess Pokémon will provide the answer.

 

[KtSlime]

Just checked Smash bros site, Amazon's price is an overestimation. The official 希望小売価格 is ¥5,200; so not the most expensive 3DS software Nintendo has sold.

 

[BriBri]

Just checked Smash bros site, Amazon's price is an overestimation. The official 希望小売価格 is ¥5,200; so not the most expensive 3DS software Nintendo has sold.

That's excluding tax.

 

[sörine]

Man the graphics on Monster Hunter Frontier for Vita looks almost as bad as 3ds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heiiTA_x9FM
No effort in the port... :/

3G on 3DS honestly looks better than that.

 

[vinnygambini]

That's excluding tax.

So effectively, Smash Bros is ￥400 more than your average Nintendo 3DS first-party title.

I wonder if Pokemon will also follow the trend as you have mentioned.

 

[KtSlime]

That's excluding tax.

Of course it is. So is the Nintendo standard price point of ￥4,571.

Kid Icarus is ￥5,524税別 (excluding tax), which still makes it the most expensive.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/akdj/index.html

 

[BriBri]

So effectively, Smash Bros is ￥400 more than your average Nintendo 3DS first-party title.

I wonder if Pokemon will also follow the trend as you have mentioned.

¥679 after tax

Of course it is. So is the Nintendo standard price point of ￥4,571.

Kid Icarus is ￥5,524税別 (excluding tax), which still makes it the most expensive.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/akdj/index.html

That's with the gimmicky stand. The eShop price for KIU is still ¥679 cheaper than digital SSB.

Edit: digital KIU is actually ¥4,927 so even cheaper still

 

[shinra-bansho]

And excluding Amiibos. Smash is making bank.

 

[vinnygambini]

¥679 after tax

Thanks for the clarification.

Nintendo is still amongst the cheapest publishers it seems though judging by the below:

Monster Hunter 4 - ￥ 6,161
Persona Q - ￥ 7,538
Freedom Wars - ￥ 6,264

I wouldn't be surprised to see a slight increase in price for Pokemon as well.

 

[KtSlime]

That's with the gimmicky stand. The eShop price for KIU is still ¥679 cheaper than digital SSB.

=/

...actually eShop isn't quite as bad as many make it out to be, I'll avoid buying things there if I can get a physical copy, but at least they don't require you to have your credit card the same region as the hardware; that's pretty nice, and more than I can say for the other services which require you to import giftcards.

 

[vinnygambini]

And excluding Amiibos. Smash is making bank.

One might see a press release soon after launch a la Disney Infinity or Skylanders proclaiming to be a billion dollar franchise

 

[shinra-bansho]

One might see a press release soon after launch a la Disney Infinity or Skylanders proclaiming to be a billion dollar franchise

Hmm, Infinity sold 3M starter packs and "only" had $500M in net retail sales as at April. I think the original Skylanders did about the same in sales dollars in 2011.

Although the Amiibos are supposed to be cross-platform, they seem more geared to a stationary platform. I'm not sure how Smash sales will end up splitting.

Possible, but I think it will take a few years for these toys to get to the billion dollar franchise level, if they do.

 

[Busaiku]

Er whoops, that was expectations.

 

[vinnygambini]

Hmm, Infinity sold 3M starter packs and "only" had $500M in net retail sales as at April. I think the original Skylanders did about the same in sales dollars in 2011.

Although the Amiibos are supposed to be cross-platform, they seem more geared to a stationary platform. I'm not sure how Smash sales will end up splitting.

Possible, but I think it will take a few years for these toys to get to the billion dollar franchise level, if they do.

Good assessment.

I sincerely hope for Nintendo's sake the Amiibo platform reaches the likes of Disney Infinity as their overall profitability in FY15 deeply depends on its success.

 

[hiska-kun]

Friday 13th, Bic Camera in Ikebukuro. This week releases:

One Piece (biggest game for the week)

Thief

Legend of Heroes

Today, Saturday 14th. Pre-orders for Smash starts. Smash becomes the game of the Week in shops. Huge.

 

[Mpl90]

IIRC, Smash Bros. Brawl was also more expensive than usual Nintendo titles on Wii. The same for Xenoblade. Probably, such titles have bigger prices due to their content / their scope.

Right now, Smash Bros. For 3DS is first and...Bayonetta 2 is second. Probably, having the original game for free with each copy is helping.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

Aligned:

PS3 - 8,102 / 2,081,842
Wii U - 12,576 / 1,782,283

July 17 - Wii Sports Club
August 07 - Dragon Quest X: One Package
August 14 - Hyrule Warriors
September 20 - Bayonetta 2
2014 - Super Smash Bros.
2014 - Captain Toad

another re-release?

 

[zeromcd73]

So glad I imported a Japanese 3dsLL for DQ7. Can't wait to get Smash early

 

[extralite]

another re-release?

What other re-releases were there? This is the first to have both the original game and the expansion.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

What other re-releases were there? This is the first to have both the original game and the expansion.

so they had an expansion disc sold separately all this time?

thanks for clearing that up

 

[cw_sasuke]

When you think about it 3DS will have quite a nice holiday lineup. Starting with Yokai Watch 2 which will sell for months you have Smash Bros. 3DS, MH4G and Pokémon R/S.

Not bad...not bad at all.

 

[Magicpaint]

When you think about it 3DS will have quite a nice holiday lineup. Starting with Yokai Watch 2 which will sell for months you have Smash Bros. 3DS, MH4G and Pokémon R/S.

Not bad...not bad at all.

Yeah. Maybe not quite as nice as far as pushing hardware is concerned but the list is really quite different from the initial outlook earlier in the year.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

When you think about it 3DS will have quite a nice holiday lineup. Starting with Yokai Watch 2 which will sell for months you have Smash Bros. 3DS, MH4G and Pokémon R/S.

Not bad...not bad at all.

Is that software going to cause notable bumps? I mean 3DS already has a pokemon, MH and Yokai Watch so the audience are already there no. I'm sure there will be a hardware increase but to what extent is the question?

 

[Magicpaint]

Is that software going to cause notable bumps? I mean 3DS already has a pokemon, MH and Yokai Watch so the audience are already there no. I'm sure there will be a hardware increase but to what extent is the question?

Honestly at 15m LTD there's not going to be a whole lot to push hardware (especially with the mobile dominance right now) so the idea is more to have big hitters to maintain a decent hardware baseline and keep software sales on par with previous years.

 

[extralite]

so they had an expansion disc sold separately all this time?

thanks for clearing that up

Yes, and I think I already said so when the expansion released and people asked the same question.

Is that software going to cause notable bumps? I mean 3DS already has a pokemon, MH and Yokai Watch so the audience are already there no. I'm sure there will be a hardware increase but to what extent is the question?

It doesn't need any hardware bumps. 3DS is already ahead of the GBA and that was a gen without any competition.

Software sales make more money anyway and core games on the 3DS don't sell worse than on DS. The opposite is often the case.

 

[small44]

Is that software going to cause notable bumps? I mean 3DS already has a pokemon, MH and Yokai Watch so the audience are already there no. I'm sure there will be a hardware increase but to what extent is the question?

Yukai Watch 2 is destroying Yukai Watch 1 pre-order dosn't this mean there is newfan who would buy a 3DS for this game?

 

[zeromcd73]

Is that software going to cause notable bumps? I mean 3DS already has a pokemon, MH and Yokai Watch so the audience are already there no. I'm sure there will be a hardware increase but to what extent is the question?

Maybe Smash Bros 3DS? First ever portable Smash Bros could be really huge

 

[Moor-Angol]

Shibuya Book-off

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Shibuya Book-off

They are selling PS4's in a bookshop?

 

[Deleted member 125677]

But book owners don't buy PS4s!

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

But book owners don't buy PS4!

Sony have found a new blue ocean.......book owners

 

[Lemstar]

They are selling PS4's in a bookshop?

They sell all kinds of secondhand media, not just books.

 

[mao2]

They are selling PS4's in a bookshop?

Book Off also buy and sell used games, CDs, DVDs and other stuff in addition to books.

 

[1st Course]

Book Off also buy and sell used games, CDs, DVDs and other stuff in addition to books.

Yes. From wiki

Book Off (ブックオフコーポレーション Bukku Ofu Kōporēshon?) (TYO: 3313) is Japan's largest chain of used bookstores. Founded in August 1991, the company has had explosive success, expanding to 866 stores throughout Japan and eight overseas locations (as of August 2006). In addition to books, its chains also sell manga, CDs, DVDs, video games, and even used video game consoles, mobile phones and portable media players. The stores are distinguished by their large surface area, cleanliness and bright illumination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_Off

 

[Usobuko]

That One Piece game already came out for 3ds isn't it? I hope Namco don't have crazy expectations like the 2x warrior games on PS3.

 

[zeromcd73]

That One Piece game already came out for 3ds isn't it? I hope Namco don't have crazy expectations like the 2x warrior games on PS3.

Yep.

 

[KtSlime]

They are selling PS4's in a bookshop?

You've never been to Japan have you?

Lots of book stores sell consoles and games, even some of the smaller ones. (Book OFF is a huge chain).

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Tsutaya: http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html

Comgnet second week comparison:

Persona 4 Golden: 48pt (29.293)
Persona Q: 74pt

Bonus:

Youkai Watch: 60pt (+29pt)

 

[Mpl90]

Comgnet retail chain's preorder comparisons, as of June 16th, 2014

[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3 - 85pt + 78pt = 163pt
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 363pt + 275pt = 638pt

[PS3] Kamen Rider Battride Wars - 115pt + 53pt = 168pt
[PS3] Kamen Rider Battride Wars II - 75pt + 23pt = 98pt

[PS4] Watch Dogs - 27pt

 

[Fisico]

Comgnet retail chain's preorder comparisons, as of June 16th, 2014

[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3 - 85pt + 78pt = 163pt
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 363pt + 275pt = 638pt

[PS3] Kamen Rider Battride Wars - 115pt + 53pt = 168pt
[PS3] Kamen Rider Battride Wars II - 75pt + 23pt = 98pt

[PS4] Watch Dogs - 27pt

I don't remember seeing numbers for Freedom Wars btw, is there nothing available ?

EDIT : Never mind, a quick google search gave me the answer

[PSV] Freedom Wars - 112pt

 

[Eolz]

Comgnet retail chain's preorder comparisons, as of June 16th, 2014

[PS3] Kamen Rider Battride Wars - 115pt + 53pt = 168pt
[PS3] Kamen Rider Battride Wars II - 75pt + 23pt = 98pt

Is there some numbers for the WiiU version? I'm sure it's lol-worthy, but still...

 

[SwiftDeath]

[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 363pt + 275pt = 638pt

Going out on a limb here and I might be crazy but I think this here game might move some units...

 

[massoluk]

Are they really going to use that lame title "For Nintendo 3DS" for Super Smash Bros.