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[lunchwithyuzo]

I just wish after finally getting a DQ on consoles in VIII, we got another to follow it. Maybe it could have expanded the audience a bit more for the series on consoles. I'd have much rather had IX on the Wii, and would prefer to have XI on Wii U instead of 3DS.

But as you say, personal wants and desires don't really come into the equation

Finally? Did you skip DQI-VII or something?

 

[shinra-bansho]

Which third parties again?

These third parties.

[WIU] Injustice - 4%

 

[Shahed]

Finally? Did you skip DQI-VII or something?

I don't believe they released here in the UK, and I was too young to understand how imports worked until about midway through the PS2/Gamecube era

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Out of curiosity, do we know what Injustice sellthrough is on 360 and PS3?

I don't believe they released here in the UK, and I was too young to understand how imports worked until about midway through the PS2/Gamecube era

Oh, didn't realize you were in the UK. Not into emulation either I take it?

 

[Hero of Legend]

I find 40% for Digimon to be better than I thought, some made it sound like it would bomb.

I hope it does at least close to the PSP version's numbers, if it ends up selling more than it in the end, that would be fantastic.

Edit: Famitsu has the PSP version at 73k FW and 153k LTD.

http://garaph.info/softwareindividual.php//gid/5591

So I have my doubts, but hey, who would've imagined Dragon Ball Heroes selling as well as it did?

 

[schuelma]

These third parties.

That is an unbelievably bad number, but I would guess RE:Revelations sales are far more worrisome to Japanese companies than Injustice.

 

[Berksy]

Vita rise with 2 minor(?) titles.

 

[Shahed]

Oh, didn't realize you were in the UK. Not into emulation either I take it?

Oh I've since played some as well as the DS remakes and enjoyed them quite a bit. Just mentioning that VIII has been the only console release here as far as I'm aware, and since then it's been all handheld. I remember a lot of people (amongst friends and family) talking to me about DQ after VIII since it was new and they really enjoyed it. The name pops up every now and then, and they always seem disappointed there hasn't been a new console release since (I'm the only handheld gamer).

I also prefer the scale of VIII's world and narrative compared to the games, but each to their own. That's why while the comment earlier saying 'DQ would be better' on PS4/Wii U is misguided in a way. To some degree I get what the poster was getting at

 

[shinra-bansho]

That is an unbelievably bad number, but I would guess RE:Revelations sales are far more worrisome to Japanese companies than Injustice.

I couldn't be bothered looking up the sell-through. I remember it being 20-40%.

That Injustice sell-through though. :/

 

[tuffy]

Doesn't look like New Etrian Odyssey will sell much differently than IV. That's a little sad because it sounds like they put a lot of work into it. Though it's also a little comforting since they're less likely to make the whole series so story-heavy going forward. But then I look at Atlus' financial troubles and it circles right back around into sad again.

 

[Magicpaint]

Looks like New EO will open lower than EOIV.

Really good sell through for Toukiden.

 

[AranhaHunter]

Regarding MH and DQ on PS systems, this is what I think.

Rumor has it that the contract between Capcom and Nintendo prohibits and MH on non Nintendo franchise for 3 years. So MH won't come to PS before Dec 2014, at the earliest, and even then I think it's unlikely to come for Vita given the popularity of the franchise on 3DS now. It could come to PS4 given that the WiiU is not selling well. However, I think even that is unlikely given that no original MH game has come to PS consoles since the PS2.

Regarding DQ, if SE had any plans to put DQVIIIR or DQXI on PS platforms again, they would have announced a port of DQX to PS3/4/V when they announced the PC port. They would also have announced some sort of DQM or other kinds of spin offs so as to be clear to their audience that DQ is now on PS consoles.

I think anyone expecting either one of these franchises on PS is just setting themselves up for disappointment. I would be extremely shocked if we see any of those franchises on a PS console anytime soon.

"Western games don't sell in Japan because they're xenophobic."

Ha!

Great to see TLOU doing so well.

Western games don't sell in Japan. TLOU is doing well in JP for a western game.

However, I do not think the reason for western games not doing well there is because they're xenophobic. McDonalds, Apple, Windows, american movies and music are all popular there AFAIK, so it has to be another reason.

There is no reason TLOU shouldn't appeal to the JP audience given the popularity of RE there, but besides RE, how well do other similar games sell there? SH never sold over 200K IIRC, Siren sold ~100K, and so forth.

I actually think the reason "western games don't sell" is because JP folks might be comfortable with their main franchises, more so than we are with ours, and are very resistant to change. Would TLOU sell more if it was made by Capcom? Probably, but possibly not that much more, maybe 300K LTD? Would it sell more if it was made by Capcom and named Resident Evil 7? Definitely, it would sell 700k first week.

I think JP folks are more resistant to new franchises and changes than western gamers are. In the west sales are obviously bigger than JP in most cases due to size alone, but even when you look at percentages compared to genre leaders, you see that western games have a more "open mind" to new franchises in their favorite genres.

I just think in this day and age it's extremely tough to have a 500K+ selling new IP in Japan and damn near impossible to have a 1m+ one. Maybe the 3DS will get to beast mode a la DS and it'll be easier for new IPs to reach those numbers there.

 

[Chris1964]

new releases {2013.07.04}

[3DS] Toriko: Gourmet Battle! <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.980)
[3DS] Mame Goma Happy! Sweets Farm <SLG> (Nippon Columbia) (¥5.040)

[PSP] My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute Portable Can't Be Continuing (PSP the Best) <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥2.800)
[PSP] Entaku no Seito: The Eternal Legend (Kadokawa Games Collection) <RPG> (Kadokawa Games) (¥2.940)

[PS3] Earth Defense Force 2025 <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥6.980)

[360] Earth Defense Force 2025 <ACT> (D3 Publisher) (¥6.980)

 

[Aquamarine]

First day sellthrough
[WIU] Injustice - 4%

So what, Injustice Wii U sold 100 copies day-one?

Wonder what kind of legs it will have.

 

[Anth0ny]

[WIU] Injustice - 4%

this shit is bananas

 

[That1BlackGuy]

First day sellthrough

[PS3] Gundam Breaker - 60-70% (top seller for the week)
[PSV] Toukiden - 70%
[PSP] Toukiden - 50%
[3DS] New Etrian Odyssey - 40%
[PS3] Atelier Escha & Logy - 50-60%
[3DS] Digimon World Re: Digitize Decode < 40%
[WIU] Injustice - 4%

Well, at least Toukiden did better on the Vita if it means something but if anything this makes me more curious to see how Gods Eater will turn out since it's a much bigger title.

Sweet Susanoo at that sellthrough for Injustice that's just... ouch.

 

[Kid Ying]

That is an unbelievably bad number, but I would guess RE:Revelations sales are far more worrisome to Japanese companies than Injustice.

It was bad and we shouldn't expect for crazy eshop numbers either, even if DQX made awesome numbers there. DQX has been on the top of the rankings for a very long time, where Revelaitons got in the top 10 in the launch and gone missing a long time ago. (Most of the titles in there are VC. I think right now, only DQX is on the top 10).

Also, Injustice didn't even got in the top 20 ranking, even though it launched a couple of days ago.

 

[Nirolak]

To add to the ongoing Square Enix handheld conversation, the game the director of Dissidia has been working on is Murdered: Soul Suspect: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/2...tasy-has-been-working-on/#dxIulwaBb6Q2q1H1.99

 

[Beth Cyra]

To add to the ongoing Square Enix handheld conversation, the game the director of Dissidia has been working on is Murdered: Soul Suspect: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/2...tasy-has-been-working-on/#dxIulwaBb6Q2q1H1.99

This makes me sad.

Nomura said that Dissidia was done in it's current form, but still I had hope that they would have followed it up with something beyond Theatrythm and I was hoping this man was the one helming it.

 

[metalslimer]

To add to the ongoing Square Enix handheld conversation, the game the director of Dissidia has been working on is Murdered: Soul Suspect: http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/2...tasy-has-been-working-on/#dxIulwaBb6Q2q1H1.99

I've set myself up to basically expect Dragon Quest on handhelds and anything else now thats not a port will be a surprise.I wouldn't even be particularly surprised if the new Bravely Default was some iOS thing.

 

[onken]

TLoU was being sold for 5000Y at a lot of retailers so that surely helped, I know it pushed me over the edge, if it was 6990 or whatever I probably wouldn't have picked it up yet,

 

[Road]

Prediction League July, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 01 to Jul 28):

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) -
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) -
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) -
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) -
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) -
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) -
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) -
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) -
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deadline: July, 3rd 09:00 am (EST) (when Famitsu or Media Create first make their weekly sales public)

Attention:

• Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
• Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform.

Rules:

• The official monthly hardware sales will be the sum of weekly numbers for all versions of the system available from Famitsu.
• The official monthly software sales will be the latest total or the sum of the weekly numbers if the title is release before the period available from the Famitsu Top 30.
• The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
• The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
• Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
• Any item missing in your prediction will be considered as if you had predicted zero for its sales.

 

[fek]

Senran Kagura producer, Kenichiro Takaki gave us a few numbers on Shinovi Versus in a recent interview. About 170~180k in Japan and over 30k for the Asia version.

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/664/664402/index-4.html

 

[Hero of Legend]

So what are people thinking regarding LBX W SC 3DS?

The 3DS version of the original actually is at 180k, above the Boost version on PSP at 170k.

I can't find LTD numbers on the original release of LBX on PSP.

LBX W did 155k on PSP and 20k on Vita, ouch.

 

[Mpl90]

Ah, about the 100k 3DS titles...

Remember that creepy title with sort of Pikmin beings from Columbia? The sequel is coming this November.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Ah, about the 100k 3DS titles...

Remember that creepy title with sort of Pikmin beings from Columbia? The sequel is coming this November.

Columbia's killing it, now if they'd revive Gadget Robo on 3DS. Granted I wonder if Beast Saga runs on the same engine.

Also, Racjin developed most of their games, including the aforementioned creepy Pikmin game.

 

[pharmboy044]

TLoU was being sold for 5000Y at a lot of retailers so that surely helped, I know it pushed me over the edge, if it was 6990 or whatever I probably wouldn't have picked it up yet,

That's what I brought up looking at King Zell's pictures. Is it normal for a first party game to be sold at that low of a price compared to other games?
Doesn't demand dictate price over there?

 

[Spiegel]

That's what I brought up looking at King Zell's pictures. Is it normal for a first party game to be sold at that low of a price compared to other games?
Doesn't demand dictate price over there?

Yes, it is normal. First party titles are always cheaper.

Most (all?) western-developed SCE PS3 titles are priced at 5980Y and retailers sell them for ~5000Y

 

[hiska-kun]

3DS has different hardware numbers for the trackers these past weeks:

Week 23 2013, 3DS hardware:

Famitsu - 32.576
Media Create - 39.872
Dengeki - 39.282

Week 24 2013, 3DS hardware:

Famitsu - 41.146
Media Create - 47.135
Dengeki - 46.985

Week 25 2013, 3DS Hardware:

Famitsu - 34.480
Media Create - 43.269
Dengeki - 41.844

Does Famitsu forget to track some stores? Dengeki and MC seems to agree every week. But then we have the last of Us and its Famitsu tracking higher:

The Last of Us Debut:

Famitsu - 129.983
Media Create - 117.465
Dengeki - 117.033

 

[Bruno MB]

Prediction League July, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 01 to Jul 28):

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 61.000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 80.000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 77.500
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 145.000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 255.000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 58.000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 190.000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 100.000

 

[Jamix012]

Prediction League July, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 01 to Jul 28):

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 65000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 65000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 52000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 180000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 320000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 90000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 130000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 70000

 

[Foshy]

Prediction League July, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 01 to Jul 28):

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 49'000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 81'000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 73'000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 105'000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 339'000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 77'000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 173'000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 88'000

 

[Gianni Merryman]

Predictions:

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 80.000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 75.000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 75.000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 183.000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 302.000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 62.000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 202.000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 112.000

 

[Exterminieren]

Predictions:

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 75,000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 67,000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 95,000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 74,000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 325,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 70,000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 185,000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 105,000

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Prediction League July, 2013

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 66,666
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 77,777
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 111,111
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 99,999
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 333,333
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 88,888
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 222,222
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 88,888

 

[darkside31337]

Prediction League July, 2013

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 37.000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 60.000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 57.500
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 85.000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 235.000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 38.000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 170.000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 80.000

 

[Coxy]

Prediction League July, 2013

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 35,000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 80,000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 60,000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 100,000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 350,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 60,000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 170,000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 65,000

 

[MasterSheen]

Prediction League July, 2013

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 60k
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 100k
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 115k
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 190k
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 200k
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 65k
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 160k
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 60k

 

[Chris1964]

I've set myself up to basically expect Dragon Quest on handhelds and anything else now thats not a port will be a surprise.I wouldn't even be particularly surprised if the new Bravely Default was some iOS thing.

Third party software sales of 3DS outside Japan remind of PSP many times. You can't blame only companies they hesitate to take risks with the system.

 

[L Thammy]

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 33,671
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 70,000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 62,500
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 168,750
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 285,000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 66,267
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 220,000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 60,000

 

[donny2112]

3DS has different hardware numbers for the trackers these past weeks:
...
Does Famitsu forget to track some stores? Dengeki and MC seems to agree every week. But then we have the last of Us and its Famitsu tracking higher:

My impression is that Famitsu seems to lean more core and MC more mainstream. Maybe more 3DSs are being sold at general stores than had been in a while, and Famitsu is slow in making changes? The more core-leaning would support the TLOU difference.

 

[BishopLamont]

Does Famitsu forget to track some stores? Dengeki and MC seems to agree every week. But then we have the last of Us and its Famitsu tracking higher:

Maybe Famitsu tracks more stores that have more Playstation customers than Nintendo ones, like the Tsutaya chain of stores.

 

[DrWong]

Prediction League July, 2013

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 90.000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 80.000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 100.000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 160.000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 275.000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 55.000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 195.000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 90.000


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[WIU] NSLU - 80.000

 

[Sammy Samusu]

http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/
http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?r=W090

Looks like a 100k+ debut for Toukiden.

EO1R - 148pt / ?
EO4 - 146pt / 97,142
EO3 - 174pt / 94,462

Atlus has being trying to make the EO series more popular, but it seems they are still stuck with the same loyal fanbase, lol.

What are they going to try next?

 

[zroid]

Prediction League July, 2013

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Jul 01 to Jul 28):

[WIU] Hardware (28 days) - 45000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 2025 (25 days) - 85000
[3DS] Youkai Watch (18 days) - 90000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 (16 days) - 150000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team (11 days) - 300000
[3DS] Little Battlers eXperience W Super Custom (11 days) - 50000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Dual Destinies (4 days) - 160000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown (4 days) - 80000

 

[hiska-kun]

Tsutaya weekly ranking:

01 (__) [PS3] Gundam Breaker (Bandai Namco Games)
02 (__) [PSV] Toukiden (Koei Tecmo)
03 (__) [PSP] Toukiden (Koei Tecmo)
04 (__) [3DS] Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millenium Girl (Atlus)
05 (01) [PS3] The Last of Us (Sony Computer Entertainment)
06 (__) [PS3] Atelier Escha & Logy: The Alchemist of Empty Twilight (Gust)
07 (__) [3DS] Digimon World Reigitize Decode (Bandai Namco Games)
08 (02) [3DS] Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (Nintendo)
09 (03) [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life (Nintendo)
10 (__) [PS3] Sniper: Ghost Warrior 2 (CyberFront)
11 (__) [PS3] Date A Live: Rine Utopia (Compile Heart)
12 (07) [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (Nintendo)
13 (__) [PSP] Urakata Hakuoki (Idea Factory)
14 (09) [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (Nintendo)
15 (__) [PS3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim - Legendary Edition (Bethesda Softworks)
16 (08) [PS3] Terraria (Spike Chunsoft)
17 (06) [PS3] Resident Evil: Revelations (Capcom)
18 (04) [3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV (Atlus)
19 (__) [PS3] The Legend of Heroes: Sora no Kiseki the 3rd Kai HD Edition (Nihon Falcom)
20 (13) [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2013 (Konami)

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I'm surprised to see the PSP version selling so well.

 

[L Thammy]

I'm surprised to see the PSP version selling so well.

Should it be surprising? It's the sort of title that's done well on PSP. I don't think people have thrown out their PSPs just yet.

 

[Bruno MB]

According to Dengeki, last week Wii U sold 6.592 pieces of software. It seems there isn't a limit on how low this console can go.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

According to Dengeki, last week Wii U sold 6.592 pieces of software. It seems there isn't a limit on how low this console can go.

Isn't Wii U software library absolute desert in Japan even compared to US/EU? I'd imagine people buying a Wii U just grab the NSMB or MH and that's it. Not much for old owners to get.